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Post Post #1050  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:03 pm

In post 1047, Nikk wrote:VOTE: xwing

For the reasons listed above, this is where I'm going to go today. I feel it's x.

initial stance: not voting coz reads are changing
after lapsa throws out "double x" post, votes me..

interesting.. :cop:

@mastina, @egix: come online and vote..

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Post Post #1051  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:13 pm

@mastina, if it makes you feel better/decide faster, i can go for nikk first..
quite sure it's lapsa-nikk anyway..

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Post Post #1052  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:30 pm

In post 1050, xwing wrote:
In post 1047, Nikk wrote:VOTE: xwing

For the reasons listed above, this is where I'm going to go today. I feel it's x.

initial stance: not voting coz reads are changing
after lapsa throws out "double x" post, votes me..

interesting.. :cop:

@mastina, @egix: come online and vote..


Are we going to pretend you didn't post in between there. That weak and long analysis is what locked it in for me.

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Post Post #1053  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:32 pm

so lapsa goes from your most suspect to now your cleared townie?

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Post Post #1054  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:32 pm

In post 1053, xwing wrote:so lapsa goes from your most suspect to now your cleared townie?


Based on what?

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Post Post #1055  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:38 pm

errrr simply by virtue of you agreeing with lapsa that scum team is me and egix? errrr what..you know there's only 2 scum left right?
i dont see any strong analysis from you either, so that reasoning feels convenient/hypocritical..

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Post Post #1056  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:40 pm

In post 1055, xwing wrote:errrr simply by virtue of you agreeing with lapsa that scum team is me and egix? errrr what..you know there's only 2 scum left right?
i dont see any strong analysis from you either, so that reasoning feels convenient/hypocritical..


He posted it was a quick guess and I nodded to that. Neither he nor I stated it was 100% confscum team.

Keep stretching though.

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Post Post #1057  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:42 pm

Nikk: Posts a series of posts showing why he feels xwing is scum
Xwing:"i dont see any strong analysis from you either"

Are we reading the same thread?

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Post Post #1058  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:50 pm

In post 1056, Nikk wrote:
In post 1055, xwing wrote:errrr simply by virtue of you agreeing with lapsa that scum team is me and egix? errrr what..you know there's only 2 scum left right?
i dont see any strong analysis from you either, so that reasoning feels convenient/hypocritical..


He posted it was a quick guess and I nodded to that. Neither he nor I stated it was 100% confscum team.

Keep stretching though.


there's no conf!scum team for town until flip..
conf!scum team is only known to scum..

your "nod" is ambigious..could be intentionally ambiguous, but the way i read it was that you agree to what lapsa was saying, which was basically an egix-xwing scum team..

so if im scum who's my team mate, nikk?

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Post Post #1059  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:54 pm

Either egix or lapsa. Leaning toward egix, but in no way 100% on that.

The thing is, I do believe you are scum. As such voting you and you flipping scum gives me and the rest of town another days worth of data to work with.

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Post Post #1060  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:55 pm

In post 1057, Nikk wrote:Nikk: Posts a series of posts showing why he feels xwing is scum
Xwing:"i dont see any strong analysis from you either"

Are we reading the same thread?


im not sure how you classify that as "strong"..
i mean i've re-read this too and all 3 of you are scummy for me so i didnt bother..
and for me your argument is weak sauce..
i mean ive been consistent with second guessing myself..and i think this comes more from town than scum, but keep pushing that angle..
anyway if you're town!nikk this game is still lost already anyway..
but if you're scum then..dun dun dun..

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Post Post #1061  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:59 pm

How is the game lost if I am town again? Is this just a 'woe is me the voted for townie' type of deal?

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Post Post #1062  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:01 pm

Also, xwing. It would appear you and I both have mastina as very strong town reads.

My fear is buying into that too much to the point of not even considering mastina/doughboy as a potential scum. At least for myself reading back. I've ISOd you, lapsa and egix multiple times now.

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Post Post #1063  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:05 pm

if town puts a single vote on another townie at this stage, both scum can quick vote then it's game over..
how was that not clear when mastina even posted a link for it?

so if you're town, this is the end..
it's not a "woe me" thing, it's just a simple fact..

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Post Post #1064  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:07 pm

In post 1063, xwing wrote:if town puts a single vote on another townie at this stage, both scum can quick vote then it's game over..
how was that not clear when mastina even posted a link for it?

so if you're town, this is the end..
it's not a "woe me" thing, it's just a simple fact..


No no I got that, just wanted to make sure that's what you were going for.

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Post Post #1065  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:08 pm

In post 1062, Nikk wrote:Also, xwing. It would appear you and I both have mastina as very strong town reads.

My fear is buying into that too much to the point of not even considering mastina/doughboy as a potential scum. At least for myself reading back. I've ISOd you, lapsa and egix multiple times now.

i've considered that actually..
but i need to anchor unto something, if not im just gonna keep guessing and wifoming myself..
and in the end i can't decide who's scum..that's why i said im placing all my eggs on mastina being town..and you can *clearly* see my actions speak for what im saying..
at this point i think we can keep on re-reading and stuff, but it's just gonna be confusing ourselves more..

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Post Post #1066  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:10 pm

@nikk, why is mastina strong town for you then?
and if she's strong town, what's the use of doubting her alignment?

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Post Post #1067  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:15 pm

In post 1066, xwing wrote:@nikk, why is mastina strong town for you then?
and if she's strong town, what's the use of doubting her alignment?


A lot is coming down to the way she has been posting today.
The use would be knowing I box myself in on these reads at time and trying to ensure I dont do that. Been burned one too many times.

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Post Post #1068  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:17 pm

@xwing out of me and egix who do you think bussed Paradox and why?

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Post Post #1069  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:18 pm

I'm going into that question looking at it as if you are town and as if mastina is town. Then at least one bus had to happen, maybe two. So do you see that?

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Post Post #1070  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:33 pm

In post 1069, Nikk wrote:I'm going into that question looking at it as if you are town and as if mastina is town. Then at least one bus had to happen, maybe two. So do you see that?

fmpov, as i've mentioned earlier as well, AT LEAST one of nikk or egix is SURELY scum..
which one, i dunno..

if i use info from the reread (excluding this current day phase), i would think that egix would be more likely to have bussed than you..simply because i was more suspicious of egix early game..
egix voted for my slot, then quickly switched to gp's slot (like just after a couple of posts)..
i also mentioned that i didnt like the slot coz he seemed to be just popping in and out..
also, i didnt like how he referred to profii to be "careful regardless of your alignment" when profii did the wrong vote count..

at the very early parts in the game, i was also suspicious of your slot (but mostly of tgp), hence i was using tgp as a sort of bait to see if any of you who i asked what their opinion of tgp was were aligned with tgp..if tgp was scum, and i asked their "scum partner" what they think of their fellow scum, they'll likely slip up or say something stupid..hence my beef with lapsa for not answering the question..
i cleared you mainly because my very strong town read, lolwagons, cleared you because of mind meld..i've learned that if your strong!town is reading someone else as strong town, then they're prolly right, even if i myself dont have them..of course it's situational but you get my drift..

egix is technically also cleared by lolwagons, but by "gut feel"..soooo there's that..

i changed my stance this day end because i thought if egix is clearing me as scum (earlier on this day phase), what would he achieve? pocketing me for this day, so they can have another day? or simply just push for a mislynch on town and win it today..
of course, he has expressed his doubts now, but point still stands..sort of..

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Post Post #1071  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:37 pm

In post 1059, Nikk wrote:Either egix or lapsa. Leaning toward egix, but in no way 100% on that.

why egix more than lapsa?
if you look at me as town, who would the scum team be for you?

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Post Post #1072  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:45 pm

In post 1043, xwing wrote:@mastina, lapsa's POV is different from egix and i simply coz he does not treat you as conf!town..
It's more than that, though; it's also general thread presence. I can point out examples as to what I'm talking about, though suffice to say:

I am gathering data now and am processing!

In post 1050, xwing wrote:@mastina, @egix: come online and vote..
I told you that I would be voting later, after the votes were in play.

The votes are in play, but I still need time to go over things.

In post 1051, xwing wrote:@mastina, if it makes you feel better/decide faster, i can go for nikk first..
I mean.

My concern with you is how when you voted Lapsa, you didn't react to Nikk voting you.
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Post Post #1073  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:51 pm

what part of post is not a reaction to nikk's vote?

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Post Post #1074  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:52 pm

In post 1073, xwing wrote:what part of post is not a reaction to nikk's vote?
It's more like you're not at all panicked, is what I mean.
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