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[PvtUrist]

This does not sound right wtf

In what universe does he make it past this night?

Mafia Universe

[Elbirn]

VC 3.02

Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R

votes

[2] 0verki11

: texcat, Delta Diamond

[2] Vorkuta

: Gamma Emerald, PvtUrist

[1] Delta Diamond

: Springtrap

[1] Springtrap

: Vorkuta

[3] Not Voting

: 0verki11, Jenga, singletonking

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The Day 3 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-02-12 00:00:00)

Mod Notes

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[Vorkuta]

Come on rest of you guys- back me up here.
This game is not THIS easy

[0verki11]

catching up

[PvtUrist]

mustard

[Delta Diamond]

I relish these condiment puns

[Delta Diamond]

vork your 180 on springtrap is sus as fuck

and I think you might be playing to the worse parts of my paranoia

idk

this game is weird. The two options seem either too scumsided or too townsided for the setups

the PT cop is scummy but my only ally made such a weird push it made me rethink the read

no offense but you guys confuse and upset me

[Delta Diamond]

like now that everyone has a small lynchpool vork is freaking out but where were they when I was pushing D2

honestly traps post today are more solvey and read a bit more town, having trouble seeing how anyone trying to figure the game out feels worse about the slot D3

[Jenga]

I should be able to catch up tomorrow night

[singletonking]

Hi I'm back

Why is Vork getting wagoned? He was my strongest townread of the unconfirmed.

Will properly catch up tomorrow

[Springtrap]

Appearantly everything restarts tonight I guess.

[0verki11]

when your catchup post doesnt post
Vortuka isnt really who I want to lynch today.

[texcat]

VOTE: vorkuta

I'm willing to go along with our 2 confirmed town on someone I suspect.

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: vorkuta

I'm willing to go along with our 2 confirmed town on someone I suspect.

that vote couldnt have been more manufactured if it jus came fresh off the line at a GM plant

[Springtrap]

UNVOTE:

My vote is no longer in a good place. Debate should hopefully lead to a majority desicion.

We had a deadline hammer and Lost Clem. I quickhammered because I was sure Trekkie was scum. We can't have that happen 3 times in a row.

Also, just in case, did we have everyone claim at this point? I swear we're missing 1 off the top of my head.

[PvtUrist]

texcat VT
DD VT
Vork VT
Gamma Odd-day Loud Fruit Vendor, Even-day Motion Tracker
Urist Mason
St PT Cop
Ok Town Neighbour
Jenga VT
stk VT

I believe are the current claims

[PvtUrist]

texcat VT
DD VT
Vork VT
Gamma Odd-day Loud Fruit Vendor, Even-day Motion Tracker
Urist Mason
St PT Cop
Ok Town Neighbour
Jenga VT
stk VT

I believe are the current claims

+4 ded;

Clem Town Neighborizer
Munch Town Neighbor
Trekkie VT
Not_Mafia Mason

this gives us;

1 PT Cop
1 Town Neighborizer
1 Town Odd-day Loud Fruit Vendor Even-day Motion Tracker
2 Town Mason
2 Neighbor
6 VT (apparently)

[PvtUrist]

With PT Cop's claim, this is the remaining lynch pool. The setup's either 3 scum (maybe 1 PR between them), or somehow 2 scum with PRs.

DD and Ok are town reads, the rest are not. Hence, my readlist and votes.

texcat VT
DD VT
Vork VT
Ok Town Neighbour
Jenga VT

[Jenga]

so, I started writing this post, detailing why I thought texcat was town and overkill was scum, and then about halfway through I started doing this case vs. case analysis and now I'm kinda second-guessing my read there.

I was started thinking about why I townread overkill, and there:

Overkill has
-- the weird neighborhood claim
--the neighbor dying n1
--a good reads list in 627

so some of these are wifomy and weak reasons, and I guess at some point we will need to have a discussion about that slot. I was going to press you for why you townread that slot in this post, and actually had a fair amount written, but now I'm kinda focused on texcat so I cut that part. I was tring overkill earlier and wasn't really saying I have a lockscum read there but I didn't get why you were scumreading texcat for the push on overkill -- but I'm just going to bracket that off for now

texcat has
--a lot of pushing on overkill, including an aggressive l-1 -- this is something I saw in one of texcat's scum games, but I kinda wasn't scumreading her for it here because it just felt a bit different. I feel like her aggressive end of wagon pushes tend to seem a bit more random as scum whereas here they seemed to develop more from her reads.
--and then a pretty good reads list in 778

and that's where I kinda ran into a snag, because when I tried to say that "texcat doesn't do reads lists like this as scum" I went and reread her scum isos and immediately proved myself wrong 0.o

so the point for comparison there is here:
viewtopic.php?p=10093679#p10093679

that's a scum texcat catchup read list

the reads list here, which my first reaction was to townread her for: viewtopic.php?p=10702012#p10702012

and when I look at the similarities it actually really bugs me. it seems like as scum texcat focuses a lot on wagons, wagon placement, etc. etc.

and then I was like, well maybe texcat just always talks about read lists, but when I went to the towngames I just can't find anything that looks like that
a town texcat reads list looks more like this: viewtopic.php?p=10444042#p10444042

so... idk what to say, but it really seems to me like scum texcat has a tendency to overexplain her reads lists as scum by over-emphasizing wagons rather than focusing on gut or tonal reads which seems to be more of her town MO

this is a pretty small sample size but I kinda feel like this is the path for today.

VOTE: texcat

[PvtUrist]

Vorkuta goes today.

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: vorkuta

[singletonking]

Sorry why is there a Vorkuta wagon again

[Springtrap]

Vork is at L-1 and both of the other PRs (our Mason IC and Gamma) are on him.

Like I said, nobody quickhammer here before we have the time for the accused to speak.

[PvtUrist]

@stk page 32 contains the interaction.

Pushing for Springtrap lynch is one of the only scum wincons remaining, of which Vorkuta has attempted.

There's been other reasons, which I'll talk about if you'd like.

Seconding Springtrap, no lolhammers.

[singletonking]

Vorkuta has been one of my strongest townreads since Day 1, given that he has given the most attempts to advance the game, especially when the game stalls. I can only see that as pro-town

Why is pushing Springtrap scummy?