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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:44 am

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VC 1.02
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[3] PvtUrist
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Vorkuta, EGL, singletonking
[2] Trekkie99
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ofrhz, texcat
[1] Clemency
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Clemency
[1] ofrhz
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Munchmellow
[1] Vorkuta
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PvtUrist
[1] singletonking
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Jenga


[4] Not Voting
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Trekkie99, 0verki11, Springtrap, ZombieStriker,

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch


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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:23 pm

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In post 66, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 62, texcat wrote:I'd still like Overkill to explain why he claimed, but I see no reason for him to prove his claim.
This
Other site meta, just a habit tbh.
Its not a mason and dont have plans to use it really.
Just wanted to out it now rather than later so we can work out if its TvT ir TvS.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:33 pm

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I like your response, Overki11. How do you feel about singleton's posts so far? Especially his first post and #63+#64.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:38 pm

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The first one is ok, the second is townie and the third one is NAI since they explained the vote in previous posts.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:29 pm

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Interesting, I thought his first post was overly negative, second is sheeping something others already have said, third feels more as scum!STK wagoning than town!STK geniunely feeling something I wrote was off. ( null/null-scum, lean-scum null/null-scum are how I felt, respectfully)

I could just be paranoid, thanks for the answers Overki11 (btw do you prefer some kind of abbreviation for your name?)
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:01 pm

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In post 77, PvtUrist wrote:I like your response, Overki11. How do you feel about singleton's posts so far? Especially his first post and #63+#64.
@pvturist why didn't you think vork was suggesting copy and paste?

@munch why did you apologize rather than point out vork said copypasta?
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:13 pm

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In post 32, Vorkuta wrote:Out of curiosity- does town require proof that they're actually neighbors? Or do we take that at face value?
Idk- getting both of them to post some random copypasta at exactly HH:MM:SS to confirm that they have access to neighbor-exclusive chat?
Upon reading my mind went to "post at exactly x time to confirm neighbor", I didn't even realise the "copypasta" portion of the text before someone pointed it out.

I didn't even realise it could be taken as suggesting to post something from private PM (I interpretted it as "copypasta that the neighbors agreed on" rather than "private PM").

You're saying it like I'm wrong for not assuming Vorkuta to be suggesting something that's cheating.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:07 am

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In post 67, Springtrap wrote:
In post 44, singletonking wrote:
In post 21, Springtrap wrote:A neighborhood? Do they have day and nightchat or is it just during the day?
VOTE: Springtrap
I don't like that he opened with a question regarding whatever's been discussed, rather than coming up with his own content.
You could have atleast have answered my question.

Is everyone here expected to come up with something new on the spot and not contribute to something ongoing? That is a double standard otherwise. I think I will voice my concerns of something new when it comes, but considering I'm not online as often, that makes this difficult.
No, only on the opening. It's my experimental scumtell of how scum starts the game, that they have nothing in mind and hence start by going of a topic in thread.

To answer your question, I don't know because I'm not in the neighbourhood.

On another note, do you have any reads? Why are you reacting to only my push on you?
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:33 am

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In post 76, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 66, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 62, texcat wrote:I'd still like Overkill to explain why he claimed, but I see no reason for him to prove his claim.
This
Other site meta, just a habit tbh.
Its not a mason and dont have plans to use it really.
Just wanted to out it now rather than later so we can work out if its TvT ir TvS.
What is a habit? Claiming in your first post?

Did you even think about using it? Or think about how it could be used?

How
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can work out if its TvT? You are the one who has/had a chance to chat privately with Munch. Don't you think that might have given you some advantage in determining whether he's T or S?

VOTE: Overkill
The only way your actions make sense to me is if you are scum.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:39 am

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In post 80, EGL wrote:@munch why did you apologize rather than point out vork said copypasta?
He said some random copypasta, so after his reaction and explaination I felt kind of dumb.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:51 am

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Gamma Emerald replaces ZombieStriker
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:01 am

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In post 83, texcat wrote:
In post 76, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 66, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 62, texcat wrote:I'd still like Overkill to explain why he claimed, but I see no reason for him to prove his claim.
This
Other site meta, just a habit tbh.
Its not a mason and dont have plans to use it really.
Just wanted to out it now rather than later so we can work out if its TvT ir TvS.
What is a habit? Claiming in your first post?

Did you even think about using it? Or think about how it could be used?

How
we
can work out if its TvT? You are the one who has/had a chance to chat privately with Munch. Don't you think that might have given you some advantage in determining whether he's T or S?

VOTE: Overkill
The only way your actions make sense to me is if you are scum.
I dont claim my role in my first post as almost anything else.
The chat is useless as I will discuss all thoughts here rather than in the chat.
And I highly doubt that Munch would act different in the PT than in the thread anyway.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:19 am

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In post 83, texcat wrote:What is a habit? Claiming in your first post?

Did you even think about using it? Or think about how it could be used?

How we can work out if its TvT? You are the one who has/had a chance to chat privately with Munch. Don't you think that might have given you some advantage in determining whether he's T or S?

VOTE: Overkill
The only way your actions make sense to me is if you are scum.
I just can't agree with this. I agree, the way it was claimed was wierd to me, I would probably do it after discussing it in PT and with a "Hi", but I guess that's a matter of style and personality. But Overkill's explanation seems reasonable to me.
I don't see how it is bad for town, that it was claimed and claimed early. I think you give way too much credit to this neighborhood thing. I mean, even wiki states that for inexpirienced players it's virtually useless. So I think best for town is, if they know at least one of us is town. The adventage we have and possibility of chating/interogating each other is not lost with town knowing.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:59 am

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In post 83, texcat wrote:
In post 76, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 66, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 62, texcat wrote:I'd still like Overkill to explain why he claimed, but I see no reason for him to prove his claim.
This
Other site meta, just a habit tbh.
Its not a mason and dont have plans to use it really.
Just wanted to out it now rather than later so we can work out if its TvT ir TvS.
What is a habit? Claiming in your first post?

Did you even think about using it? Or think about how it could be used?

How
we
can work out if its TvT? You are the one who has/had a chance to chat privately with Munch. Don't you think that might have given you some advantage in determining whether he's T or S?

VOTE: Overkill
The only way your actions make sense to me is if you are scum.
If it's this other site's meta to out it, wouldn't it just be NAI
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:01 am

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In post 85, Elbirn wrote:
Gamma Emerald replaces ZombieStriker
Hi Gamma :]
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:07 am

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In post 36, Munchmellow wrote:
In post 29, ofrhz wrote:
In post 23, Munchmellow wrote:
In post 20, ofrhz wrote:Did you guys discuss and agree to out your neighborhood together?
No, no discussion.
What was your initial reaction in seeing ?
I was really surprised.
I guess there is logic behind it and overkill will explain it.
I feel like this doesn't really track with your entrance

If you were surprised by Overkill's post, why didn't you mention/question it when you first entered the thread?

VOTE: Munchmellow
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:14 pm

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In post 86, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 83, texcat wrote:
In post 76, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 66, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 62, texcat wrote:I'd still like Overkill to explain why he claimed, but I see no reason for him to prove his claim.
This
Other site meta, just a habit tbh.
Its not a mason and dont have plans to use it really.
Just wanted to out it now rather than later so we can work out if its TvT ir TvS.
What is a habit? Claiming in your first post?

Did you even think about using it? Or think about how it could be used?

How
we
can work out if its TvT? You are the one who has/had a chance to chat privately with Munch. Don't you think that might have given you some advantage in determining whether he's T or S?

VOTE: Overkill
The only way your actions make sense to me is if you are scum.
I dont claim my role in my first post as almost anything else.
The chat is useless as I will discuss all thoughts here rather than in the chat.
And I highly doubt that Munch would act different in the PT than in the thread anyway.
I'm having trouble parsing that first sentence. Can you explain again what habit it is? Or what the other site meta is?
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 83, texcat wrote:The only way your actions make sense to me is if you are scum.
A scum neighbor or just scum in general? :mrgreen:

I agree with munch's reasoning that giving up a 'secret neighborchat PT' in exchange for a 33% T&S/S&T/T&T is pro town in general, especially if the two of you aren't going to use it to coordinate big plays. I don't give overkill scum points for doing it so early/by post 10.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:20 pm

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In post 87, Munchmellow wrote:
In post 83, texcat wrote:What is a habit? Claiming in your first post?

Did you even think about using it? Or think about how it could be used?

How we can work out if its TvT? You are the one who has/had a chance to chat privately with Munch. Don't you think that might have given you some advantage in determining whether he's T or S?

VOTE: Overkill
The only way your actions make sense to me is if you are scum.
I just can't agree with this. I agree, the way it was claimed was wierd to me, I would probably do it after discussing it in PT and with a "Hi", but I guess that's a matter of style and personality. But Overkill's explanation seems reasonable to me.
I don't see how it is bad for town, that it was claimed and claimed early. I think you give way too much credit to this neighborhood thing. I mean, even wiki states that for inexpirienced players it's virtually useless. So I think best for town is, if they know at least one of us is town. The adventage we have and possibility of chating/interogating each other is not lost with town knowing.
I don't think claiming was necessarily scummy. But I do think the way Overkill claimed was scummy. I do think him refusing to post in the hood is scummy. His total rejection of the hood and not discussing the claim with his neighbor is scummy. It's like he's scum and trying to post as little as possible.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:20 pm

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In post 32, Vorkuta wrote:Out of curiosity- does town require proof that they're actually neighbors? Or do we take that at face value?
Idk- getting both of them to post some random copypasta at exactly HH:MM:SS to confirm that they have access to neighbor-exclusive chat?
Probably don’t try this
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 37, PvtUrist wrote:
In post 36, Munchmellow wrote:Are you suggesting we should copy paste sth from our private thread, because that would be clearly against the rules.
Overly defensive. Not the best first impression here, Munch.
No that’s a valid reaction.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 47, PvtUrist wrote:Well singleton, is there anything here you
do
like?
Shade noted
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:32 pm

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In post 93, texcat wrote:
In post 87, Munchmellow wrote:
In post 83, texcat wrote:What is a habit? Claiming in your first post?

Did you even think about using it? Or think about how it could be used?

How we can work out if its TvT? You are the one who has/had a chance to chat privately with Munch. Don't you think that might have given you some advantage in determining whether he's T or S?

VOTE: Overkill
The only way your actions make sense to me is if you are scum.
I just can't agree with this. I agree, the way it was claimed was wierd to me, I would probably do it after discussing it in PT and with a "Hi", but I guess that's a matter of style and personality. But Overkill's explanation seems reasonable to me.
I don't see how it is bad for town, that it was claimed and claimed early. I think you give way too much credit to this neighborhood thing. I mean, even wiki states that for inexpirienced players it's virtually useless. So I think best for town is, if they know at least one of us is town. The adventage we have and possibility of chating/interogating each other is not lost with town knowing.
I don't think claiming was necessarily scummy. But I do think the way Overkill claimed was scummy. I do think him refusing to post in the hood is scummy. His total rejection of the hood and not discussing the claim with his neighbor is scummy. It's like he's scum and trying to post as little as possible.
Can you think of actual scum motivation for those actions or do they just look scummy?
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:34 pm

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In post 96, Gamma Emerald wrote:Shade noted
To be fair, this is urist regardless of whether he's town or scum.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:59 pm

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I feel like it would be a good idea to lynch one of the neighbors, and depending on their flip we can get a better idea on what the remaining neighbor's allegiance is. For example if we lynch one and he flips scum, we can consider it more likely that the remaining neighbor could be town, and visa-versa. Of course if the neighbor we lynch flips town, we wouldn't automatically lynch the other neighbor, we would just simply keep in mind that there could be a higher chance of the remaining neighbor being scum.
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