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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:59 pm

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TemporalLich(3):
RadiantCowbells (77), ssbm_Kyouko (90), Lovebird (92)
Gamma Emerald (3):
Vedith (104), Hopkirk (140), TemporalLich (167)
DrDolittle(2):
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Dannflor (1):
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Kopkirk (1):
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xwing, DrDolittle, Gamma Emerald (102)
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:59 pm

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This is what I was talking about
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:01 pm

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In post 108, RadiantCowbells wrote:good wagon

hi lovebird how are you
Hi. I'm OK. How are you?
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote:Maybe it's the roleplaying but Mary Saotome's play seems very agenda-driven.
No, I think Mary is pretty towny
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:08 pm

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In post 194, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 164, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote: Maybe it's the roleplaying but Mary Saotome's play seems very agenda-driven.
What do you mean by this?
Her posts look like they are really in the moment, and are more thought up.
What? That doesn't seem agenda driven.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:09 pm

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In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 195, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 193, Dannflor wrote:
In post 190, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because I want to give her a chance to respond.
What about voting her doesn't give a chance to respond? She's not a major wagon or at L-1. At this stage your vote should be on someone
Her response could change my mind, so I didn't vote yet.
Are you scared of what it would look like if you voted someone because you were suspicious and then changed your mind and unvoted after your suspicions were assuaged?
IDK, that doesn't seem realistic. And, wouldn't that be towny anyways?
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:11 pm

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In post 215, Hopkirk wrote:I was expecting Gamma to acknowledge it since there's an obvious disconect between the two lines in my post.
Don't like that she didn't acknowledge it.

TL is still the lynch.
This seems real
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:13 pm

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I answered you already Emperor, I was referring to you saying Gamma was at L-1.
why
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:14 pm

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Emperor Flippynips

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Mary Saotome

Yumeko Jabami

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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:16 pm

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In post 167, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 162, Dannflor wrote:Why Emperor? You have to justify it more than his RVS vote.
I looked at his ISO and his reason for his scumread doesn't hold up anymore.

Lovebird is still "potentially town" though.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Can you explain what you're saying? I don't understand it
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:19 pm

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In post 230, Lovebird wrote:IDK, that doesn't seem realistic. And, wouldn't that be towny anyways?
Don't think town cares as much about looking suspicious. Why doesn't it seem realistic?

Gamma, I fail to understand why you aren't using your vote to pressure/get reactions out of people. It looks like you're trying to play overly safe.

VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:21 pm

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Stop inviting TL jfc
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:21 pm

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In post 219, Hopkirk wrote:Process is ongoing, but I am getting reads/thoughts/questions out of the vote.
Why do you believe Lich is the lynch for the day?
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:22 pm

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In post 235, Dannflor wrote:
In post 230, Lovebird wrote:IDK, that doesn't seem realistic. And, wouldn't that be towny anyways?
Don't think town cares as much about looking suspicious. Why doesn't it seem realistic?

Gamma, I fail to understand why you aren't using your vote to pressure/get reactions out of people. It looks like you're trying to play overly safe.

VOTE: Gamma
I meant, it's kind of towny to reconsider, so why would he be worried about it. And, it doesn't seem like something someone thinks of.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:22 pm

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In post 236, RadiantCowbells wrote:Stop inviting TL jfc
what does this mean
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:23 pm

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In post 236, RadiantCowbells wrote:Stop inviting TL jfc
Idk, he could be lynchbait. No need to rush :)
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:24 pm

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In post 240, Lovebird wrote:
In post 236, RadiantCowbells wrote:Stop inviting TL jfc
Idk, he could be lynchbait. No need to rush :)
He's not he's just scum
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:26 pm

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I have a lot of town leans. Need DDL and xwing to post

I don't understand Rc's hard push without actually making a case
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:28 pm

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Here's my case he's a wolf

What am I supposed to case in his six posts

Sure I'll make a case
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:32 pm

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idk i talked myself out of it

I still don't like him scum reading Emperor for so long but

I'm not convinced he can't be awkward town anymore
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:33 pm

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I am
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:41 pm

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Mary is strictly NAI with a side of fries.

Radiant's not really NAI but not really town either. Can't decide yet though so w/e.
In post 243, RadiantCowbells wrote:Here's my case he's a wolf

What am I supposed to case in his six posts

Sure I'll make a case
Yeah I'd like to hear your case.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:22 pm

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Oh dear, I meant to push DrDonothing a bit more, but I've already ran out of time. This seems like an oversight on my part, I should have really been here yesterday, oh well. There are a few things that stood out to me as I skimmed up to around 74, mainly the fact that DrDolittle and Dannflor seem to be defending each other for some reason. Or maybe I'm just seeing things, please correct me if I'm wrong Dannflor, here's what I mean:
In post 19, Dannflor wrote:
In post 16, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: DrDolittle

Gonna have to agree with Dannflor here.
VOTE: TemporalLich

disagree with you agreeing with me
In post 48, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 37, Yumeko Jabami wrote:Tell me, DrDonothing, do you always hesitate to place a vote during the early game? Do you not think that Dann's Point of view is odd enough to place a vote down at this stage of the game?
TBH this is the first time where I don't place a vote during the early game.
Yumeko Jabami wrote:However, post 33 by Dannflor looks like scum grilling awkward town to me... or at least it's what I'd expect to be happening. Dannflor would certainly be the logical place to place a vote right now.
I think this is just Dannflor looking like a Dannflor. Most likely not AI
In post 59, Dannflor wrote:
In post 58, Lovebird wrote:Idk. I don't have many townreads.

VOTE: DrDolittle
Yuck. Don't like this entrance. Comes in and calls one random post towny with no explanation and then hops on an already built wagon while adding nothing to it.

VOTE: Lovebird

Lovebird, if you're lacking town reads, why don't you try questioning people to change that? Or, at the very least add something of value to the DDL wagon by interrogating him or building a different case. Your entrance just jumps on the easiest wagon without adding anything else.
In post 159, Dannflor wrote:I'd like to wait for DDL to do virtually anything before I form an opinion on that slot

I'm wary because iirc he gets scum read a lot for not doing much early game regardless of alignment

DoDonothing, you say in post 48 that this is the first time you don't place a vote in the early game. Setting aside the why for now, what do you think of Dannflor saying you get scum read for not doing much early game regardless of alignment? The statements aren't quite contradictions to each other, but I thought it was close enough to one that it was curious. What kind of experience do the two of you share, anyway? It seems you've played together, would you guys say you're friends? Friendly acquaintances? Or are you just nobodies to each other? DrDonothing in particular seemed to indicate familiarity in post 48, while Dannflor seemed more distant when talking about DDN in post 159. Ah, so cold Dannflor! It's not nice to treat your friends that way you know?
In post 59, Dannflor wrote:
In post 36, Yumeko Jabami wrote:However, post 33 by Dannflor looks like scum grilling awkward town to me... or at least it's what I'd expect to be happening. Dannflor would certainly be the logical place to place a vote right now.
I like to grill awkward town first to make sure they're awkward town and not awkward scum. :)
Furthermore, would you say DDN's playstyle holds a special exemption to what you said here, or do you think this isn't an applicable situation?
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In post 38, TemporalLich wrote:I definitely feel DrDolittle is trying to hide something. At least the random voters are honest and true.

ssbm_Kyouko is probably town btw
Don't you think it's a bit early to be calling people town? Or does ssbm just wear their heart on their sleave?

I'm working on the presumption that you didn't dig into my post too deeply, but instead scanned it. Which is ok - well not really, I work hard on those - it doesn't really say much about your alignment. The point I'm trying to make is that putting in effort doesn't make somebody town - you seem like a fish out of water, latching onto other people's scumread. This is one of your first times playing mafia, right? I get the feeling you're nervous, not because you're mafia, but because you're a new player trying to fit. That's not to say that you
can't
be mafia - I'm trying to figure out your flighty attitude. Full disclosure, I read a bit ahead in the thread before posting this stuff, so I'm partially judging you based on stuff past this post as well.

Your post surprised me, because it seemed like you somehow missed the first post and only saw the second. That or you're just a little too naive.
In post 101, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 97, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 69, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Anyways I was just being lazy and didn’t feel like looking at everyone’s name to see who I wanted to RVS.
And yet you voted someone who hadn't posted. Do you see a problem there? Because I do.
VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips
Can think of 2 explanations, one possibly scum indicative and one definitely scum indicative.


No I really don’t. What I said was to why i didn’t vote straight away. So that’s out of context. You can look at my ISO if you want to get it straight. I really don’t see the problem with voting someone who hasn’t posted yet it’s literally what happens in the beginning of games.

Coming at me for using my
RVS
seems like a lost cause & we should move on to find actually scum
Ahahaha, you're being silly. What's the point of Rvs if you don't want other people to judge you off of it? Did you think people just voted each other for giggles? While that certainly sounds like fun, Don't you think it's a little hypocritical of you to say that coming after you for, in your opinion paraphrased: 'essentially nothing' while you've placed a vote on lovebird for 'actually nothing' and hadn't moved on yourself?

This isn't a dig at you, people aren't coming after you because you voted lovebird, they're coming after you because you showed hesitation - yes, a moment of weakness and they jumped on it. Well, that's the kind of game we're playing though.
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In post 36, Yumeko Jabami wrote:I understand that it is site meta to claim miller in your first post when you are one, so I'll acknowledge it, yes, you've caught me, I'm a miller!

Mary Saotome, it's good to see you again. Let's work hard to undermine any opposing factions together.
Ugh, it's you. Well at least you won't survive long with a claim like that Yumeko-chan.
I'm afraid I don't understand, is my life at risk? Everybody has been so very accepting of my claim so far, are you saying that their is some unspoken suspicion floating about, or perhaps that there will be if i survive for a few nights? Or perhaps you're the one who doesn't trust me? If that's the case, I'll just have to work a little bit harder, won't I?
In post 116, Mary Saotome wrote:Your tone comes off more so as accusing then it does sorting and asking questions. That could be my mistake! Hard to read tone.
My my Saotome, have you ever heard the phrase 'practice what you preach'? I've always thought it was silly, I mean, preaching isn't always about positive things, so the whole phrase ends up being a little bit assuming, don't you think?

In any case, I never took you for a clumsy girl, you should take more care in the future.
In post 118, Mary Saotome wrote:Keep being interesting 10thy/Dann and we'll get along fine.
Dann certainly is interesting, I'm all fired up over here. Can you tell? In any case, there's this one other player, they're just so very boring. Honestly, it's a drag. Good chance they're scum too. Hey, we should team up, let's get all the boring out of here. What do you say?

VOTE: Radiantcowbells
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:08 am

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In post 119, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I was accusing. I think being directly confronted makes people more transparent, and thus easier to sort. I kept an open mind though and I think I have started to form more accurate reads than I had before the accusations.
How blunt. Fine, fine this answer works for me.
In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote:Maybe it's the roleplaying but Mary Saotome's play seems very agenda-driven.
Ohhh does it now~ Well I certainly am attacking people who I find suspect. Along with I have a few plans in mind. So yes, I would say my play is certainly agenda-driven. How you wanna take that is up to you.
In post 134, RadiantCowbells wrote:Mary chat with me :(
Ugh, don't you know my time is important?
What
do you want.
In post 139, Hopkirk wrote:@Mary: what would you have considered to be a legitimate, not just ‘convenient’ reason for Dan to vote Emperor? The phrasing ‘convenient’ feels odd.
It was an answer that I could easily see being truthful, but also one that is easy to make up. It wasn't really what I was looking for. Perhaps convenient was the wrong term. I wanted a more solid answer to help me sadly.
In post 144, Hopkirk wrote:I want to develop a read on Gamma.
You know hoppy. Saying the reason why you're voting Gamma isn't really that helpful. If you wanted to develop a read on gamma. Fake a scumread on him see how they react etc. Just placing a vote down isn't gonna do much. I know you all can't be as smart as the great Mary. However, I would hope you all can use your brains sometime!
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