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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2019 7:43 pm

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I think no one wants to mislynch the top poster, which suggests people are over-valuing activity as being alignment indicative.

Then again, sometimes it is, and hey, Egix and Ausuka are both in the bottom three posters. I think the only townread slot that is in the bottom three posters is Gamma's slot.

Yet I don't feel like Egix is a lurker, and this isn't really any different for his post rate than when he posts as town.

I don't really like Ausuka's list in 1598, and I feel like whenever she tried to discuss all her reads in day 1 she over-explained them. I would have liked to see a simple and clear reads list from her mid day 1.

Then again I feel like today is just going to be a mislynch no matter what. I hate going out on a mislynch as IC but I just don't feel confident enough in any one scumread to lead a crusade.

I'm very tempted to go back to Ausuka.

right you asked about sash. *drinks coffee*

I like Sasha in RVS and I like the way he handled the hammer. He did not feel like scum that knew he was about to hammer town. I also think him pushing you seemed reasonable because you seem scummy.
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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2019 8:14 pm

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Yeah have to disagree with sashs reaction around the hammer it seemed like giddy scum excited over the hammer.

But letting skitter live despite scum reading her just because she is a top poster seems kinda blah. Because It's going to be sash or skitter today i'm just warning you in advance.
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2019 8:24 pm

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In post 1348, u r a person 2 wrote:That said, if she is scum. this game, she is putting in a tremendous amount of effort. Most of what you noted as pinging you is either a personality tell from skitter, or, in the past, town tells for skitter.
You didn't react to that at all when it was basically said here?

I listed skitter as my top scumread and activity was definitely a part of why there aren't any wagons on her now

I'm not sure I think urap is scummy for that argument I just think it's a weak reason to tr skitter, I know he said there was other stuff but eh
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2019 8:29 pm

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we have less than a day left; should i claim? i think i'm probably the most likely lynch here.
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2019 9:01 pm

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I probably wouldn't claim till your l-1 I know that sounds rich coming from me.
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2019 11:47 pm

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In post 1644, Exilon wrote:That's also going to make for a great sig

(...)
I actually disliked Ausuka's answers to my questions (and the follow up), much more than Egix, in fact. @Great Detective Ryan R- I mean Pikachu, what did you think of ausuka's follow up on my case? I'm biased and having a really hard time getting a conclusive read on it.
(...)
Pikachu, pls?
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Fri May 17, 2019 11:52 pm

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Garmr, dude.... are you okay? :/





Spoiler: 1669
In post 1669, Garmr wrote:
In post 1667, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 1658, Garmr wrote:
In post 1656, Detective Pikachu wrote:Exactly, you were in no danger of getting lynched but then sabotaged your options for investigation in the night. And now you're okay dying as a strong town investigative. Your play this game does not reconcile with your claimed role and given your propensity for lulzy nonsense claims as scum that seems like a fairly simple explanation for what's going on.
No that's the dumbest fucking explanation which only proves my point right. Also that was one game where I was a actual motion detector. Also the best lies are in truth. Every scum fake claim came from knowledge of the game I never luzly fake claimed as scum before.

Seems Ic stand something else as well innoncent child hint it's 5 letter word.
In post 1661, Garmr wrote:
In post 1659, Detective Pikachu wrote:I think it would have helped if he started by not rolling scum.
Ok if we flip me now I will flip town I want everyone to ignore detective pikachu since they are obviously a VI as well.

Gamr you are not helping yourself here. You’re really really looking bad. And maybe it’s time for you to accept the fact that your play has been sloppy this game.

Because, with one vote on you, you claimed an investigative role that could result in a double kill of your target gets shot, and then you proceeded to hardclaim your target. Can you not see how poor of a decision that was?
Now given the evidence, I have no choice to take your claim at face value. It makes sense given what you’ve said and how the game has gone.
But what you have done is not anywhere on the spectrum of town-optimal play. So the fact that people are scum reading you for it should be anything but surprising.
Please please please consider the fact that I’m not scum right now. If I’m not scum, where would he scum lie?
If your not scum then this would be my scum reads. I saved this post and decided to post it if I was alive tomorrow and you were town and scum didn't shoot us. Still hasn't been fully edited yet.


Exilon! You may ask, why it's pretty simple. Skitter is acting to strongly about Exilon being town read and she's fighting against it. If skitter is scum and exilon is town why would she fight the lynch? It's because exilon is scum. She's had plenty of time to confirm her opinion to town collective opinion or not push it to dodge criticism about exe being town blocked. She must know she will flip soon being at the bottom of everyone's scum list with no town reads. So she's pushing Exe knowing it won't get a mislynch to make him look better when she flips. If he was town she could just shoot him during the night phase.

In post 436, tris wrote:
VC 1.06
Sashaddin (5):
u r a person 2 , Ausuka , Lil Uzi Vert , bob3141 , Exilon
RuiRui (2):
ChannelDelibird , Egix96
u r a person 2 (2):
Inferno390 , skitter30
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cbynumber (1):
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Inferno390 (1):
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Not Voting:


With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.


Deadline:
(expired on 2019-05-03 20:00:00)
Also excilons post is the perfect position to bus. This is only if skitter is scum while he could be scum with skitter on his own


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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 12:03 am

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You have some of the same concerns as me. i don't think her response is enough to move my read. I guess my question is why is sasha better fypov?
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 12:08 am

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In post 1677, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 1348, u r a person 2 wrote:That said, if she is scum. this game, she is putting in a tremendous amount of effort. Most of what you noted as pinging you is either a personality tell from skitter, or, in the past, town tells for skitter.
You didn't react to that at all when it was basically said here?

I listed skitter as my top scumread and activity was definitely a part of why there aren't any wagons on her now

I'm not sure I think urap is scummy for that argument I just think it's a weak reason to tr skitter, I know he said there was other stuff but eh
effort in this post did not mean activity. It meant that she was making posts that were hard for scum!skitter to make.
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 4:29 am

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@pika
Wrt Sash
In post 1644, Exilon wrote:That's also going to make for a great sig
(...)

Sash is a bit of wildcard but I'll agree that at a certain point Day 2 I he just stopped interacting and was content to not interact and not provide much content, like Garmr said. I do actually think this warrants a lynch, and at very least would unstall lots of players who seem stalled on him (*looks at Ausuka*).

(...)

Cause looking at it I can see part of Day 3 being devoted to yet another Sash wagon if he remains alive and I bet scum would just love that type of stall.
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 4:38 am

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In post 1684, Exilon wrote:@pika
Wrt Sash
In post 1644, Exilon wrote:That's also going to make for a great sig
(...)

Sash is a bit of wildcard but I'll agree that at a certain point Day 2 I he just stopped interacting and was content to not interact and not provide much content, like Garmr said. I do actually think this warrants a lynch, and at very least would unstall lots of players who seem stalled on him (*looks at Ausuka*).

(...)

Cause looking at it I can see part of Day 3 being devoted to yet another Sash wagon if he remains alive and I bet scum would just love that type of stall.
Jump on the sash wagon then.
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 4:56 am

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Help me understand your post while we're at it

VOTE: Sash
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 4:59 am

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In post 1686, Exilon wrote:Help me understand your post while we're at it

VOTE: Sash
It relies on you and skitter playing mind games with town and you being really competent as scum. if I'm wrong scum is probably Urap2.
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 5:03 am

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In post 1675, Detective Pikachu wrote:Yet I don't feel like Egix is a lurker, and this isn't really any different for his post rate than when he posts as town.
Yeah you can't really read me based on activity/post count. I'm not a heavy poster and I have a history of lurking as both alignments.

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@Garmr: Would you say that my meta read on Sasha is a bad reason then? Should I just drop it?
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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 5:04 am

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In post 1687, Garmr wrote:
In post 1686, Exilon wrote:Help me understand your post while we're at it

VOTE: Sash
It relies on you and skitter playing mind games with town and you being really competent as scum. if I'm wrong scum is probably Urap2.
Some *extremely* elaborate mind games
I'm sure there wouldn't even be a need to go all the way into those mindgames
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 5:07 am

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VC 2.13
Sashaddin (5):
Gamma Emerald , Garmr , bob3141 , Ausuka , Exilon
(L-1)

Ausuka (3):
Egix , Inferno390 , Sashaddin
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With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.


Deadline:
(expired on 2019-05-18 22:00:00)
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 5:22 am

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In post 1689, Exilon wrote:
In post 1687, Garmr wrote:
In post 1686, Exilon wrote:Help me understand your post while we're at it

VOTE: Sash
It relies on you and skitter playing mind games with town and you being really competent as scum. if I'm wrong scum is probably Urap2.
Some *extremely* elaborate mind games
I'm sure there wouldn't even be a need to go all the way into those mindgames
Basically in that scenario skitter and sash are going to lynched and resigned to their fates. Skitter is prepping the best possible position for you as scum to reach the end game. Skitters basically over done it through and botched up. That's the basic version of post 1669.
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 6:27 am

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I’m going to take this hammer to end the day. No one else hammer.
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 6:31 am

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In post 1692, Inferno390 wrote:I’m going to take this hammer to end the day. No one else hammer.
then how will i be able to bus sash?? =(
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 6:38 am

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I really hope that’s a joke.
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 6:39 am

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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 6:46 am

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In post 1637, Inferno390 wrote:I think we lynch Ausuka here actually for trying to argue the proc off of me. I don’t see a reason to do it as Town and a LOT of reason to do it as scum.
What I was thinking here was, as the protective you have 2 goals here:
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2) prevent a double kill

option 2 seems a lot more urgent as it could lead to mylo if we mislynch today; however both deaths are garmr and inferno, who have been under suspicion. additionally, if
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garmr or inferno is scum, this is a waste of a target which could lead to our IC dying. i think both options are close in priority, so my attempted solution was to create a situation where there was at least some chance that scum wouldn't realize that i was wrong/lying, thus at least giving some chance that both situations are solved; the protective can go on the ic and if garmr/inferno are t/t there's still some chance scum will choose not to go for the double kill.
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 6:46 am

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sorry urap but your time is up. we lynch you d3.
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 6:48 am

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Ausuka
That’s a terrible line of thought
And since when have I been “under suspicion?”
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2019 6:48 am

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In post 1697, Ausuka wrote:sorry urap but your time is up. we lynch you d3.
ok sounds good
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