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[Gollum]

My preeccciioousssss?!?

[ofrhz]

You can’t have it until you claim

Spoiler:

[Gollum]

Honestly, I didn't really want to post on my alt here. I'm vt. Still think kirari is scummy. Town read both creature and red and pushed a traitor. Fmpov that's not impossible scum play. But otters last post looks like the last scum that's annoyed thier traitor died. The countered argument is that he wouldn't say that out loud. I think town wins with those two flips

[Gollum]

Now gimmie gimmie gimmie

[Kirari Momobami]

Claimed

LuckyOtter - VT
Nero Cain - VT
ofrhz - VT
Vorkuta - VT
BodhiSmith13DeasVail - VT
Kirari Momobami - VT

Kublai Khan - Vig thing

Flipped

Creature, Mafia Activated Night 1-4 Commuter, killed Night 1.
RedFlavor, Mafia Activated Night 1-4 Commuter/Night 1-2 Cop, lynched Day 2
HeWhoSwimsnomnomnom, Mafia Commuter Enabler Traitor, killed Night 4.

KopNiko, Town Odd-Night Bulletproof Even-Night Vigilante, lynched Day 1.
Saudade Lil Uzi Vert popsofctown, Town Universal Backup -> Town Odd-Night Bulletproof Even-Night Vigilante, killed Night 4.


pisskop, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
EvilDeaniusEyes without a face, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2.
Montosh, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3.
rosterfoster, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 3.
Alchemist21, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 3.
Jesus Louisus, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 4.

So this looks like a quasi mountainous. I'm fairly confident that
Even vig + UB
vs.
Commuter, commuter, traitor + SK

is pretty much never ever going to pass NRG

so I think we can safely call KK an IC-vig based on setup spec/balance

[Kirari Momobami]

Second IC status
ofrhz - outside scumrange, also spewed town very hard by nomnom

Pool of 4
Nero Cain - VT -- leans town off meta?

LuckyOtter - VT -- still liked the creature stuff for s/s but response to pressure was at least mildly townie yesterday
Vorkuta - VT -- the creature push day 1 was kinda weird for s/s but other that this is easily within vork's scumrange and actually kinda against his town meta
DV - VT -- kinda a bad game for DV if LO is town

[Kirari Momobami]

I think if we can agree on a 3-person lynch pool then this game is on autopilot win?

Obviously harder with nero not agreeing with me being town but other than that, I think the likelihood we win today or tonight should be 66%

[Kirari Momobami]

Vork today, KK shoots out of otter and DV?

Does anyone like Nero for scum here? And if anyone things nom gambits on an ofrhz tunnel as a non-recruitable traitor I'll hear it out but I think I'm at a town-lock group of 3 now (me-KK-ofrhz)

[DeasVail]

I probably still want to lynch Otter here. Would consider Vork as an alternative maybe?

[DeasVail]

Oh also this is more out of interest than anything else, but KK how come you were informed about the vig thing? I didn’t see anything in the posted PMs that would indicate it. Was it just part of your role PM? Apologies if I’ve missed something obvious.

[DeasVail]

*backup thing

[Kublai Khan]

Oh also this is more out of interest than anything else, but KK how come you were informed about the vig thing? I didn’t see anything in the posted PMs that would indicate it. Was it just part of your role PM? Apologies if I’ve missed something obvious.

It was part of the role PM.

[DeasVail]

Cool, thanks!

[Kublai Khan]

I think if we can agree on a 3-person lynch pool then this game is on autopilot win?

Obviously harder with nero not agreeing with me being town but other than that, I think the likelihood we win today or tonight should be 66%

Yeah, I'm going to iso HeWhoSwims and nomnomnom given the traitor flip. But yeah. We have today's lynch. I have a shot tonight, then I'll likely be dead.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 5.1

Not Voting(7)Kirari Momobami,Kublai Khan,LuckyOtter,ofrhz,DeasVail,Vorkuta,Nero Cain,

LuckyOtter(0)

Kirari Momobami(0)

ofrhz(0)

BodhiSmith13

DeasVail(0)

Vorkuta(0)

Nero Cain

Gollum

(0)

Kublai Khan(0)

No Lynch(0)

With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2019-07-26 20:29:00).

[Kirari Momobami]

KK, LO, and Vork want to snapshot your thoughts on Nero vs Vork for the scenario where the game is still going tomorrow?

[Kirari Momobami]

*Nero vs DV

[Vorkuta]

Who gave Kirari full control of the game state and why are we being coralled?

[Vorkuta]

I have nothing more than surface-level analysis of either slot and DV > Gollum

[Kirari Momobami]

Does dv > nero mean dv gets lynched first?

[Vorkuta]

KK, LO, and Vork want to snapshot your thoughts on Nero vs Vork for the scenario where the game is still going tomorrow?

Yes- he has more scum points

[ofrhz]

Are you worried about Kirari, Comrade Vorkuta?

[Vorkuta]

I am, but that means I'll have to do the legwork of justifying my fears so.....

[DeasVail]

Who gave Kirari full control of the game state and why are we being coralled?

This is actually a good post!

[DeasVail]

Anyway, I've looked over some things again and I feel like everything points to

VOTE: LuckyOtter?