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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:17 am

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PGO's not normal anyway lol.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:22 am

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In post 1492, Something_Smart wrote:I don't think you could have reasonably expected that tracker claim to be believed, meaning it was just a dumb Boon gambit and not indicative of your alignment.
This is exactly what i’m saying.

People are acting like it was a hard serious claim, when even you here say that it absolutely shouldn’t have been believed, and that’s the premise of it all
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:24 am

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Guys, I’m just town :cry:
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:24 am

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The question remains though, if you're informed of a ninja, you must have expected there to be a tracker? Why did you claim tracker knowing that the real one might CC?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:25 am

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I’ve been on that super obnoxious town game lately.

Vengeful spirits i faked a cop claim guilty on town, and everyone knew it was fake even though I never stopped pushing it the entire game :lol:
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:25 am

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In post 1503, Something_Smart wrote:The question remains though, if you're informed of a ninja, you must have expected there to be a tracker? Why did you claim tracker knowing that the real one might CC?
Night kill WIFOM.

Lapsa and I seemed to have the right rapport
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:26 am

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In post 1499, Something_Smart wrote:Like, if they do have a ninja, what are they so scared of a tracker for?
Maybe it's one specific slot rather than a factional modifier. Everyone else could still be tracked. I have no idea what they're informed of. It could be like "There's no full Cop" or "There's No Doctor". The latter makes even more sense for Scum to try and draw out the Tracker to shoot them.

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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:26 am

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To be fair, I thought it was obvious I wasn’t actually a tracker meaning I expected the real tracker to stay quiet, which Lapsa did.

Chickadee replaced in and didn’t have rapport.

Not that i knew Lapsa was Tracker or anything, but Lapsa had me as super high up town, meaning he knew that I was fake claiming for him.
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:27 am

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In post 1502, Rick Dalton wrote:Guys, I’m just town :cry:
We are deliberating on it, so please stay outside until we reach a verdict.

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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:27 am

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I also didn’t know there was a tracker, it easily could have been a Watcher.
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:27 am

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Fonz flipping scum could help you deliberate
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:30 am

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In post 733, Rick Dalton wrote:I’m still informed, but I’m also an ungated tracker, which is dumb because there’s ninjas, so I’m uninspired.
My Lapsa thing is actually kinda not relevant...:/

I was out of this game earlier. Almost, you’ve rolled Visitor. You know how uninspiring it is.
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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:38 am

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I will likely follow S_S on this one tbh. If he says you're the lynch I will vote you., If he says not then I will vote elsewhere. being "too close to you" could be preventing me from seeing the whole picture. I kinda can see this coming from you as either alignment.

One thing I'll say is that Lapsa's *yawn* confirms he noticed and didn't CC. Now how can I be sure if he didn't because he TR'd you or because he thought it was one of them fake claims you do all the time?? If anything, it does prove you can do this as scum and get away with it just as likely as you can do it as town and count on the other townie knowing you well enough.

But let me ask you this: How did you know it was Lapsa specifically?? because your narrative revolves arounf you already having identified Lapsa as the Tracker and playing around him knowing you well. It could have easily been just about anyone else, and then you would/should not have expected it to go smoothly, so HOW did you know Lapsa was the Tracker?

Answer me this and you're off the hook for good.

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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:43 am

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In post 1507, Rick Dalton wrote:Not that i knew Lapsa was Tracker or anything, but Lapsa had me as super high up town, meaning he knew that I was fake claiming for him.
I didn’t know anything for sure.

Lapsa was already talking me up early game. I’ll find a post for it
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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:44 am

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In post 148, Rick Dalton wrote:Lapsa, why am I town? I like it, don’t get me wrong
This was super early, but we had a moment back then, and it kind of just stayed there.

I didn’t know that he was the PR i was claiming for, though.


Something, just read the game, read me, and you’ll see I’m town.
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:46 am

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Also, people always come at me, but I feel that’s one of my strengths is being able to find high profile target/defendants as either alignment.

I don’t really know how to explain how I knew, because I didn’t for sure know, but I had a feeling and a connection with Lapsa in some way.

Kind of similar to how I catch you out when you’re scum. I just kinda know
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:53 am

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Which makes this a problem for me: If you didn't know Lapsa was the Tracker then you must've expected a CC from the real Tracker if there's one. And why would there be one? Because the Scum have a NINJA, which you yourself claim to have been informed of. Yes, it could have also been a Watcher, but you and I both know Tracker is much more common that Watcher. At best it was 50-50m so why'd you jump in to confirm VD's claim of having shot "whoever he shot" at the risk of drawing a Tracker's claim?

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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:28 am

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Why would I expect a real counterclaim when I thought it was obvious I was fake claiming?

Why would I ever true claim there
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:28 am

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Scum have more of a tendency to believe my fake claims than town, or at least go along with it as such.
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:30 am

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I need something to flip this day phase. It's gone on too long.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:31 am

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Scum successfully got pressure off of Fonz, I’ll tell you that.
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 1520, Rick Dalton wrote:Scum successfully got pressure off of Fonz, I’ll tell you that.
It's true, you pulling your vote off me to OMGUS the
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guy who pushes you really helped me out there, so thanks I guess? :facepalm:
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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:59 am

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OMGUSy is a town tell for me.

PMysterious is also casing in a way to try and convince me that I’m scum, and casing at me, which is also a scum tell.
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:00 am

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PM/Fonz/One of Roster,VD maybe one of A50/Vorkuta/Something

Possibly LUV.

Scum is thee
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:48 am

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In post 1523, Rick Dalton wrote:maybe one of A50/Vorkuta/
Something
What?? So, scum claimed MACHO Tracker Enabler???

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