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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:02 am

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Well done Puppy.
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:04 am

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hello, tanner is my alt. it was a more-or-less failed experiment, though i had fun playing under anonymity for once.

here's my notes pt for this game if anyone cares: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=82789

anyway, i can't help but to feel awfully disappointed in this outcome. i can't say puppy didn't play well. killing me there was the correct move as my first post coming into day 5 would've been a puppy vote, no questions asked. (not saying my play up to that point was perfect, far from it. sorry knight.)

but having spent the whole game defending persi, only to have my death be for nothing is kinda sad. i thought una was obvtown. i laid out why i thought una's associates with the flipped scum were ++town. i felt puppy's TMI read of prana and the set up of una were obvious. and yet this. obviously, i could've had more balls on day 4 to try to push this through myself, but i wanted to sleep on it one last time, and by the time i woke up prana was already hammered.

also, this is pretty funny in retrospect.
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anyway, gg. @mod, thank you for the game.
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:04 am

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:facepalm:
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:05 am

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Dead thread:viewtopic.php?f=90&t=82851
Mafia thread: Not released yet.

Sorry for placing an IC in the same game as two millers. It was a dumb decision; the IC (normally, if dead Night 1) would have had no chance to positively influence the game, a synergistic effect I overlooked.

About the rest(balance, fun)... let`s talk about that if you want, here. Feedback is appreciated.
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:07 am

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lol so Tanner was you, Datisi!
I had fun playing with you. You probably were the best town in the game.
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:08 am

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Who would say cute avatars don't skew win% in your favor after seeing THIS?
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:13 am

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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:44 am

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In post 1903, Not Known 15 wrote:About the rest(balance, fun)... let`s talk about that if you want, here. Feedback is appreciated.
I already said this, and the dead thread is saying it too. Drew: "Set ups like this make it hard for town as it blows their conception of the set up and they never recover."
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:52 am

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I want to repeat that I think the game was basically balanced when you look at the roles. Named townies just aren't fun for me. It's like town's playing against both the scum and the mod.
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:56 am

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Reading the dead thread, I have to say...FUCK YOU to all the people criticizing me. I'm done with this site for awhile.

If you're all so fucking great, why did it come down to lylo?
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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:57 am

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I was criticising you all game. You refused to actually play the game, from day 1.
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 4:58 am

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In post 1909, Persivul wrote:Reading the dead thread, I have to say...FUCK YOU to all the people criticizing me. I'm done with this site for awhile.

If you're all so fucking great, why did it come down to lylo?

Reading the dead thread, I have to say...FUCK YOU to all the people criticizing me. I'm done with this site for awhile.If you're all so fucking great, why did it come down to lylo?
Most of them criticize themselves, too....
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:03 am

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I got fucked. Gg.

Nice popo gambit.
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:03 am

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The setup speculation by some townies has been really bad. You seriously assumed that this setup, plus one goon, minus one VT... is balanced(well most of them not all). But that literally cannot pass the normal review because it would be extremely scumsided. I would not have been surprised much if you assumed a traitor, but three goons, really? You all should be experienced enough to know better. You still stubbornly looked for a full-fledged scumteam that was simply not existant.
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:05 am

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In post 1910, PranaDevil wrote:I was criticising you all game. You refused to actually play the game, from day 1.
Since when? Him and Tanner were basically town leaders most of the game.
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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:08 am

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In post 1913, Not Known 15 wrote:The setup speculation by some townies has been really bad. You seriously assumed that this setup, plus one goon, minus one VT... is balanced(well most of them not all). But that literally cannot pass the normal review because it would be extremely scumsided. I would not have been surprised much if you assumed a traitor, but three goons, really? You all should be experienced enough to know better. You still stubbornly looked for a full-fledged scumteam that was simply not existant.
I've been here 5 years and that was only the second 11:2 I've seen, and I play minis almost exclusively.
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:12 am

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In post 1910, PranaDevil wrote:I was criticising you all game.
And tunneling me all game. You know, town's one PR.
You refused to actually play the game, from day 1.
Playing differently from you /= not playing the game.

I can obvtown it as well as farside. I quit doing that because I was getting NK'd N1 or N2 most games, just like farside.
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:12 am

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In post 1915, Persivul wrote:
In post 1913, Not Known 15 wrote:The setup speculation by some townies has been really bad. You seriously assumed that this setup, plus one goon, minus one VT... is balanced(well most of them not all). But that literally cannot pass the normal review because it would be extremely scumsided. I would not have been surprised much if you assumed a traitor, but three goons, really? You all should be experienced enough to know better. You still stubbornly looked for a full-fledged scumteam that was simply not existant.
I've been here 5 years and that was only the second 11:2 I've seen, and I play minis almost exclusively.
This is the second 11:2 I have modded... but...
I said I would not have been surprised much if you assumed a traitor.
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:16 am

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There wasn't a traitor. The setup was a town mindfuck.

Why the ascetic whatever it was?
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:24 am

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In post 1914, GeorgeBailey wrote:
In post 1910, PranaDevil wrote:I was criticising you all game. You refused to actually play the game, from day 1.
Since when? Him and Tanner were basically town leaders most of the game.
Persi wanted to rush every single day phase as fast as he could, skip discussion, just "this is my read, lynch them, get on with it". He was a town leader because of his role... his play was so anti-town that he was scummier than the scum in any game I've ever played.
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:32 am

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In post 1919, PranaDevil wrote:Persi wanted to rush every single day phase as fast as he could, skip discussion, just "this is my read, lynch them, get on with it". He was a town leader
because of his role...
his play was so anti-town that he was scummier than the scum in any game I've ever played.
1. I was able to do some surface level scummy things precisely BECAUSE I knew my role would likely clear me. I wouldn't play VT this way. I wouldn't typically play a PR this way, EXCEPT I knew it was 1X and once the millers both claimed, I knew I was using it N1 anyway.

2. Please...rushed every single day phase as fast as I could and skipped discussion? You're delusional. I was top poster, with almost 100 more posts than the second, and as George noted Tanner and I were town leaders for much of the game.
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:34 am

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BTW I'm just naturally brash, I'm not really pissed at anyone in the game. Just arguing back as in a game.
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:37 am

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Surprised town lost with 11:2 set up. Gj puppy.
I don't mind dying n1 or n2. Staying alive longer sometimes sucks too and I never liked lylo situation.
I would have lynched whoever replaced saladmanday 2. I had luca and raibi on my scum radar when i was reading along. Never would have lynched para, persi, una, tanner or mansv. Those where in my town pile day 1.
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:47 am

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In post 1918, Persivul wrote:There wasn't a traitor. The setup was a town mindfuck.

Why the ascetic whatever it was?
A trap, for the person having it because claiming Ascetic is ok but claiming Encryptor is a death wish(and you don`t need to claim Encryptor if you are an Ascetic)
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2020 5:55 am

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In post 1923, Not Known 15 wrote:A trap
So, yeah, we were playing against both scum and the mod. I'm not a fan of that.
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