Mini Normal 2139: No Flavor Allowed - Game Over


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Post Post #2725 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:33 am

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I should have cursed more everywhere. Ircher please add curses to all my posts.
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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Post Post #2726 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:36 am

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:lol: I knew it
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Post Post #2727 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:36 am

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In post 2712, Umlaut wrote:The Day 4 replacements honestly wrecked scum here. I can't say I'm not proud of myself for deducing the setup but it wouldn't have mattered if I had gotten lynched yesterday.
We had a win path even if you didn't, sans Micc's BP. The plan was to kill off Micc, and have me bus Hoctac and set you up to be the LyLo mislynch. Micc had already established that you were likely scum because of his setup spec of 2:1 scum in:out hood.

Yesterday, if BS was lynched our plan was to simply get Zulfy lynched today (as he was then the perceived scummiest hood member).
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Post Post #2728 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:37 am

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Is conceding mechanical or voluntary?
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Post Post #2729 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:38 am

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No such thing as a mechanical concede, as town can always forget the mechanical play and hand the win to scum. There was no way that was happening here though.
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Post Post #2730 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:39 am

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auro was mechanically confirmed scum. we could have went another day but he was getting lynched no matter what.

I think he conceded because of that, and he wasn't convincing either u (looker) or Umlaut he was town.
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Post Post #2731 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:40 am

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Auro ur one mistake was letting me live. :devil:
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2732 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:40 am

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In post 2731, Firebringer wrote:Auro ur one mistake was letting me live. :devil:
And your one mistake was falling in love with me
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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Post Post #2733 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:41 am

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Regarding the setup's balance, when I was creating this, I was a little concerned I might have given town a bit too little power, especially since I was essentially breaking a long-established meta rule in this setup. I thus threw in the 1-Shot Cop to compensate, but I think that was a bit much. Also, with regards to the Traffic Analyst, it did much better than I expected. I think that was because the neighborhood was exposed a bit early.

With regards to the review thread, we didn't really say much. My first draft was considered "not normal" because I tried to run a setup that used randomness to pick a random setup. (Randomness is not allowed in normals.) I then posted the current setup, and it was approved without much said.
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Post Post #2734 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:41 am

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In post 2732, brassherald wrote:
In post 2731, Firebringer wrote:Auro ur one mistake was letting me live. :devil:
And your one mistake was falling in love with me
its not a mistake if it was destiny.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2735 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:41 am

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Well well-played everyone, I was thoroughly confused and that was fun.

I had a PoE of {Auro | Hoctac | Umlaut | Firebringer | Micc}, but the no NK threw me

Good game, would replace in again. Fun times.
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Post Post #2736 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:42 am

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In post 2731, Firebringer wrote:Auro ur one mistake was letting me live. :devil:
We kill you, then Hoctac or I still get lynched, and we kill Looker leading us to Umlaut-Micc-Auro where Micc has an inno on Umlaut, and I doubt Umlaut was going to vote for Micc there :P
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Post Post #2737 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:44 am

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In post 2728, Looker wrote:Is conceding mechanical or voluntary?
In most normal circumstances, I would not accept a concession as I believe fighting to the end is a good habit. Regardless, the remaining players involved would have to request it; I would not automatically make the decision for them.
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Post Post #2738 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:45 am

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Why did you guys let Hactoc just skate by?
https://youtu.be/LRkYiRnRzY0

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Post Post #2739 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:45 am

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In post 2733, Ircher wrote:I was essentially breaking a long-established meta rule in this setup.
The main problem was that you had a public review of such a setup where you broke the same meta rule, which means our weapon of "oh, but meta!" WIFOM holds no weight when someone sees that (as Umlaut did).

What's the incentive for Quick
not
to out that information immediately though?
  • Informed FV immediately says there is 1+ scum in hood
  • Town decides to lynch neighbors 1 and 2, leaving 3 and 4 for invests
  • Invests individually target 3 and 4
This plan works regardless of 1/2/3 scum in hood, and I would always suggest town to follow this plan given information is outed immediately.
And there's no reason for Informed FV to keep the info for long.
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Post Post #2740 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:46 am

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Sorry about lynching you yesterday, Zulfy, even though I think it was the right thing for me to do in the end.
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Post Post #2741 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:46 am

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In post 2738, Quick wrote:Why did you guys let Hactoc just skate by?
he bribed me with a cheeseburger.
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Post Post #2742 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:47 am

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We won? Wut?
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Post Post #2743 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:47 am

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I’d like to thank FB for engaging with Auro’s last ditch effort so that I could go to bed, and clidd for laying groundwork for a mechanical solve. The only non-mechanical decision I made this game was to pick out the wrong Neighbor to lynch Day 3. I was pretty surprised for both FB and I to have received a result Night 3 and that might have contributed to me misreading his result initially.

Thanks for moderating Ircher.
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Post Post #2744 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:48 am

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In post 2741, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2738, Quick wrote:Why did you guys let Hactoc just skate by?
he bribed me with a cheeseburger.
You are completely pardoned, this is an excellent reason.
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Post Post #2745 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:49 am

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Oh yeah, BTW, if we did lynch BS we were planning to accuse Zulfy of scumslipping in the hood for LyLo. :P
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Post Post #2746 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:50 am

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Post Post #2747 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:51 am

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guys, i have a confession. Besides 1-2 iso skims. I never read day 2 or day 1. Please forgive me for my sins.
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Post Post #2748 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:52 am

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I still don't understand why you got lynched, SirCakez
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Post Post #2749 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:52 am

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In post 2747, Firebringer wrote:guys, i have a confession. Besides 1-2 iso skims. I never read day 2 or day 1. Please forgive me for my sins.
Reading isn't for cool dudes
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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