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Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:54 am

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In post 4345, DkKoba wrote:also VP, the correct play was to random inno someone. its safer and doesnt lock you into a 1v1 with someone.
Maybe. I mean, we had built a house of cards and needed to finish the game sooner rather than later. The fact you guys let me get away with investigating anyone other than Aldus was only because I claimed a guilty. Claiming an inno there would have been very problematic for my survival that day, let alone ANOTHER day after that.

Raya, thanks for modding. My only feedback would be that next time you should be more transparent about revealing role PMs. It completely ended any chance of scum winning to reveal NPOM's role PM. As a team, we may have played differently around his yeet if we had know that.

Not sure how I feel about this setup in the end. The scum team played pretty cleanly (rocky start), and still got decimated. Three confirmed town out of 13 is a big hill to climb. Aldus did a great job picking out the masons quick. It's weird because if I hadn't been tracked N1 I probably wouldn't have felt so doomed from the start, but we also wouldn't have found the masons so quickly.

Anyhow, fun game all. Would play with any of you again in the future.
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Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:05 am

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In post 4350, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4345, DkKoba wrote:also VP, the correct play was to random inno someone. its safer and doesnt lock you into a 1v1 with someone.
Raya, thanks for modding. My only feedback would be that next time you should be more transparent about revealing role PMs. It completely ended any chance of scum winning to reveal NPOM's role PM. As a team, we may have played differently around his yeet if we had know that.
Thank you for the input. In the future I intend to make it clear from the start that all role PMS will be posted upon a flip and I'll be consistent in posting all.
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Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:06 am

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VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
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Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:07 am

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Ico’s notes are hilarious btw - everybody should read them.
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Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:09 am

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In post 4346, DkKoba wrote:aaaaaaaaa im so hyper. big kudos andres for the biggest dick play ive ever seen.
I’m like one of the few people (even in the dead thread) that read you correctly. I’m actually pretty proud of that. You made me doubt it by pushing me so hard, but it all worked out in the end.
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Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:10 am

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In post 4317, DkKoba wrote:gg i was 0/5 lol.

i shoulda been more sus on why aldu quickhammered in a situation where I clearly wanted NPOM...
I did call it the Scummiest hammer ever! Hahaha
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Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:12 am

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@Mods, thanks for the game and the effort! Raya I think you did great. If you had not released the actual Role PM’s, would we have still learned what the Mafia JOAT could do? Because that’s what screws VPB right? That’s the only question I would have.
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Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:15 am

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if i recall the normal guidelines correctly (i modded a few normals), when flipping a JOAT, you can either flip their abilities or not flip them, but it has to be decided by the designers before the game goes live
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Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:15 am

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In post 4352, Andresvmb wrote:VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
Haha, I was so mad at you when you convinced everyone to yeet outside of Koba and me :lol:

You clinched the town win at that point
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Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:15 am

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In post 1149, DkKoba wrote:ok im willing to give npom the benefit of the doubt wrt the scummy play

VOTE: testa
the moment where town veered away from D1 Success :(
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Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:15 am

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In post 4358, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4352, Andresvmb wrote:VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
Haha, I was so mad at you when you convinced everyone to yeet outside of Koba and me :lol:

You clinched the town win at that point
it was gonna be u either way. he just solved the game earlier rather than later
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Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:17 am

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In post 4358, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4352, Andresvmb wrote:VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
Haha, I was so mad at you when you convinced everyone to yeet outside of Koba and me :lol:

You clinched the town win at that point
I trusted my gut. That’s all I can say about that. I actually had a lot of reservations about your slot, but I kept them to myself in order to push something outside of the 1v1 knowing that I couldn’t convince the Town to flip you instead of Koba.
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Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:17 am

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baltar, at the time of my guilty, were you actually walking your dog?
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Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:18 am

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mmm all the misgendering of me in the ico notes... please just use they/them/theirs and not he/him/his in the future..
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Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:22 am

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In post 4356, Andresvmb wrote:@Mods, thanks for the game and the effort! Raya I think you did great. If you had not released the actual Role PM’s, would we have still learned what the Mafia JOAT could do? Because that’s what screws VPB right? That’s the only question I would have.
Yes, you would have still learned that. I released the role PM for clarity since it would be difficult to describe like I did for the tracker. But I should be consistent for all so it would have been clear town would get that info
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Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:23 am

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In post 4361, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 4358, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4352, Andresvmb wrote:VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
Haha, I was so mad at you when you convinced everyone to yeet outside of Koba and me :lol:

You clinched the town win at that point
I trusted my gut. That’s all I can say about that. I actually had a lot of reservations about your slot, but I kept them to myself in order to push something outside of the 1v1 knowing that I couldn’t convince the Town to flip you instead of Koba.
Or at least I should say, far more reservations than the ones I made public. Like I had a strong feeling you would live until the next day hahaha which would convince others about your slot. I just had to get one flip right before.
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Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:25 am

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I really want to read the Mason PT - there’s probably so much screaming going on there.
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Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:27 am

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Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:32 am

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WHAT A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gg everyone love u all
did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!

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Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:37 am

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scum played really great
did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!

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Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:51 am

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In post 4362, Datisi wrote:baltar, at the time of my guilty, were you actually walking your dog?
I did take my dog out! But only to potty and not on a full walk. I was also trying to cook dinner and was phone posting.

I honestly didn't see your result claim until a good bit after you made it. I wasn't expecting anyone to actually reply to my "quick!" so fast.



Speaking of which, the timezone difference was so hard for me this game! I hated that Dats and Ico had this little pow wow everyday at like 2am my time that I could not interrupt. Made it very hard to stop them from adding to an already substantial town block from the start of the game. Trying to navigate around that was an interesting experience
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Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:53 am

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In post 4360, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4358, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4352, Andresvmb wrote:VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
Haha, I was so mad at you when you convinced everyone to yeet outside of Koba and me :lol:

You clinched the town win at that point
it was gonna be u either way. he just solved the game earlier rather than later
wait, you think I would have been flipped in the 1v1 with you on the day I claimed the guilty?
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Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:53 am

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In post 4370, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4362, Datisi wrote:baltar, at the time of my guilty, were you actually walking your dog?
I did take my dog out! But only to potty and not on a full walk. I was also trying to cook dinner and was phone posting.

I honestly didn't see your result claim until a good bit after you made it. I wasn't expecting anyone to actually reply to my "quick!" so fast.



Speaking of which, the timezone difference was so hard for me this game! I hated that Dats and Ico had this little pow wow everyday at like 2am my time that I could not interrupt. Made it very hard to stop them from adding to an already substantial town block from the start of the game. Trying to navigate around that was an interesting experience
u supposed to kill one off on n1 ya goof
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Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:57 am

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In post 4372, DkKoba wrote:u supposed to kill one off on n1 ya goof
For sure, for sure. I'm always hesitant to kill the most obvtown person n1, just in case there is a doc. Killing Datisi N1 would have been a MAJOR change in how this game played out. I didn't have strong mason vibes off them D1 though since they were in such a leadership role. Our team obviously had to make killing the masons the top priority. If we had missed even a second shot, we would have been PoE'd even more than we were.
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Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:59 am

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:lol:

well you made me stay up all night to claim the guilty, so i think it's fair

pedit: wow, and the whole time i was worried that the leadership role *was* going to get me killed. funny how that works.
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