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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:51 pm
by shellyc
In post 5015, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 209, Andresvmb wrote:VOTE: shellyc

I’m not losing to you twice!
AAAAA
:eyes:

@kerset RS aware of loyal cop can basically act as a framer to the cop (we did so successfully n2 and teacher thought they had a guilty)

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:53 pm
by Datisi
scum pt is now public!

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:03 am
by NDMath
In post 5024, NDMath wrote:Very curious to see if scum were close to killing me early on or not really.
Oh wow.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:08 am
by shellyc
luckily menal talked kerset out of it, claiming ascetic as commuter is a pretty good way to draw that kill tbh

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:17 am
by Kerset
hey i was right about him being active PR!

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:24 am
by shellyc
fine anything for beloved kerset

did think commuter = passive action before checking the wiki though

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:05 pm
by Ydrasse
okay, i am in the mood to type + i wanted to do this, so!

- i'm sorry @ plus, there were a lot of things in your play that i couldn't get over. it all seemed very unnatural to me as time went on. i don't think you should have self-voted but you've already heard this and i get it, i think i would have ended up voting you regardless of me coming around to shelly being scum. i've been kind of burnt out these past few days so i didn't end up posting much regarding my thoughts but i really did try to see you as town. it just... didn't work in my head. i also should've realized we were in lylo together for a reason.

- good job mafia! kerset your doctor claim is very funny to me reading back now and i regret hammering iv but reading "ambulates" now just makes me laugh. also, menalque your fakeclaim is funny too because kerset also claimed backup of something in the game where we were scum together; if you had brought me to final 3 with ndmath on that one i think i would've ended up killing you for it. shelly, i definitely think you did a really good job especially in endgame; you were the deciding factor, imo, for the game.

- sorry @ everyone else for not being as active as i could, i definitely just wasn't feeling up to efforting as things progressed. i'm also sorry to osuka because i should've realized you were being town; if we connect 4 again i'll give you some free wins. and i'm sorry to you and also andres for not following your word on shelly!! i was being too stubborn.

- i really liked this setup, @datisi! it was fun to see how it all fit together pretty well, and the roles were neat. also your flavor is some of my favorite (and i sometimes steal it to send to friends. shh.)

other than that, ty again everyone for a good game! was very very fun.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:09 pm
by Ydrasse
also, regarding those posts in the scum pt: i don't remember why i joined at all! and ty for the kind words in there too.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:11 pm
by shellyc
ydrasse i was actually afraid at some point that you might have come to a realisation that plus was town and you were brought to lylo for a reason in the scum PT

time to make a setup with backup BP, backup jailer and mafia ascetic rolestopper

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:13 pm
by Ydrasse
it was on my mind; i spent a lot of time when i was working dwelling on it but there were too many other things that i couldn't get past.

i also spent a lot of times staring at the vcs.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:13 pm
by Ydrasse
the only realization i had really come to was that ndmath wasn't scum internally but like, menalque/ndmath were problems for the day after if we managed to flip right. (presuming you died on a scum!plus which like, if you hadn't i would have been like ?????).

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:18 pm
by shellyc
scum!math was kinda a stretch because of the string-pulling going on. me and menal being double highest posters was evident of that

I think math votes plus in 3p though tbh

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:23 pm
by Ydrasse
yeah, probably. ndmath was the only person i had a moment of true clarity on where i was just like... "this person isn't scum."

maybe i should make myself post more.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:26 pm
by shellyc
nah you posted enough and played pretty well, just I posted a lot (tbh scum!me is reverse ellitell or something)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:43 am
by Menalque
In post 5034, Ydrasse wrote:it was on my mind; i spent a lot of time when i was working dwelling on it but there were too many other things that i couldn't get past.

i also spent a lot of times staring at the vcs.
I really think this is one of the hardest things as town in lylo: to go back on what you've been feeling all game because it doesn't make sense that that person would bring you to gylo, compounded by the fact that as humans I think we're more worried about losing to the person we suspected all game than we are about losing to the person who had us fooled all game

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:44 am
by Menalque
In post 5032, Ydrasse wrote:also, regarding those posts in the scum pt: i don't remember why i joined at all! and ty for the kind words in there too.
it's okay you can tell me in a spoiler that it was me, kerset doesn't know how to open spoilers

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:47 am
by Menalque
incidentally @plus, I think you'd probably benefit a lot from reading the scum PT if you have time, I think it will give you insight into the ways you were very right this game (the chained guillotines of you, bob, osuka) while also maybe helping you see what the rest of the gameplan for us was that you missed. don't lose heart either way! that ability to read what the scumteam is doing is difficult to pick up and I think you have a decent sense of it already -- if you can fine-tune the "appearing town" bit of your game and improve on the "who benefits from this gamestate the most as scum" bits then I think you'll make a very formidable scum hunter!

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:19 am
by PlusJOYED
thx mena
yeah my town game wasn't super good this game but it was my first non newbie game so i think that's normal