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[Prism]

Perhaps I'm being overly broad.

[skitter30]

Ok but from my pov i didnt see those games

What i saw was:
Cabd refusing to consider ffery here
Cabd and notsci refusing to vote bork for basically no reason
You pocketing notsci

You getting pocketed by cabd (and subsequent fallout etc)
Multiple slots refusing to vote cabd
Multiole slots refusing to vote notsci (tbf i was wrong on this one)

From my pov in a mafia sense i spent most of the last month or however long it was trying to course-correct those things and shouting into the void and failing miserably because breaking apart all of those wrong assumptions proved to be very, very, very hard, esp when people wouldnt, like, fruitfully engage with me

Its fucking exhausting and not fun, and i will be avoiding u lot in the future
(Or more accurately, games with more than exactly one of you, i think by yourselves each of u are fine)

I probably should not have called ur slot honarary scum in tenet, and i apologize if i said anything over the line during that convo. from my pov my frustration over both games had kinda reached a tipping point

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I hope u feel better soon, get ur endurance back, and that u enjoy ur bike trips

[notscience]

I know it won’t mean much but I am taking your words to heart on it.

[Prism]

I think it's easy to look at this as bad because it resulted in a town loss, two with Tenet, but my point is that

even if ffery had been town

this game was abject misery and the dynamic still terrible.

[fferyllt]

I don't mind wine club being wrong. I mind wine club literally refusing to dialogue in good faith or remotely show interest in the opinion of outsiders.

I really think the hivemind tendency self-corrects after this game and tenet.

If I contributed to hostility or toxicity in this game, I'm really sorry. I tried to keep myself in check.

[skitter30]

I know it won’t mean much but I am taking your words to heart on it.

I appreciate that, ty

I dont really have much issue with ur lategame tbh, it was p clear u were pocketed and that happens to the best of us

Was more annoyed that i utterly couldnt get bork to happen day2, largely cuz neither u nor cabd would gainsay it.

I don't mind wine club being wrong. I mind wine club literally refusing to dialogue in good faith or remotely show interest in the opinion of outsiders.

I really think the hivemind tendency self-corrects after this game and tenet.

If I contributed to hostility or toxicity in this game, I'm really sorry. I tried to keep myself in check.

I think ur play here was fine tbh
I take significantly more issue with ur approach to tenet

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Tbh by itself i dont think i have such a problem with this game individually. Stacked together with tenet there's a p clear theme tho

[Prism]

Don't get me wrong. Despite how salty I am over how this played out, I was a huge part of the problem and why we lost. My reads were eh, my Day 2 was completely indefensible, the DGB vote was on me, losing my temper with Vax/bork/the Day 4 stallers etc. I played like garbage and deserved the loss.

[unwnd]

I think Tenet and this game are definitely a case of (perfect storm) and I don't feel it reflects on a cliquey mentality at all

There was just a lot of fucking tension overall

Like you/Peta were scrapping for unknown reasons too, and I'm not sitting here trying to contrast the two

I kinda think the way D1 went down even with my dead sorta killed the momentum of the game

[fferyllt]

Skitter I think in tenet I was so tilted by day 1 happenings -- the near-elim of notsci's hydra, the noraa blow-up, and then flavor leaf (both the replace-in and the lolwagon) that I never got my footing back. I'm unhappy with my play there, and I'm also very upset by some things that happened in the game. I don't plan to get into it with anyone, but that game experience definitely will impact future /ins.

[Prism]

Don't throw away your work this game to spite the mod, there's other avenues postgame. We need you here.

I don't know what you would consider a clique if refusing to dialogue with anyone outside of it in good faith for literally a calendar month does not fit the bill, but given that you spent all of the end of day sucking up to notscience and Cabd I cannot say I am surprised that you disagree.

[Prism]

My phone continues to random quote I see

[unwnd]

Don't throw away your work this game to spite the mod, there's other avenues postgame. We need you here.

I don't know what you would consider a clique if refusing to dialogue with anyone outside of it in good faith for literally a calendar month does not fit the bill, but given that you spent all of the end of day sucking up to notscience and Cabd I cannot say I am surprised that you disagree.

Yeah generally speaking I don't believe the behavior was fully intentional rather just circumstance and I feel your own grievances attest to that

I'm just offering you perspective

[unwnd]

Nobody is above criticism if you want me to hear how Cabd doing that whole secret talk stuff annoys the piss out of me I'll do it

And I kept kinda ripping into notty about COBRA KAI mentality as well in the graveyard lol

[unwnd]

Lol god that quote you did just reminded me how Notsci's slot got pretty much towncleared by MOD PIZZA flipping out

Yeahhh

[Prism]

The last comment was uncalled for on my end so I apologize.

Between this and the dead PT I have really beat the dead horse to dust. It is just easy for me to see a world where, had town won this game, the result would be that wine club+NPCs would have been validated as the right way to play the game.

Wine club wasn't the only reason we lost and doesn't deserve to be scapegoated (I know Skitter isn't scapegoating it), but it's not wrong

just because we lost

, it was an awful way to play even if it had yielded a win

[skitter30]

Skitter I think in tenet I was so tilted by day 1 happenings -- the near-elim of notsci's hydra, the noraa blow-up, and then flavor leaf (both the replace-in and the lolwagon) that I never got my footing back. I'm unhappy with my play there, and I'm also very upset by some things that happened in the game. I don't plan to get into it with anyone, but that game experience definitely will impact future /ins.

Fair enuf
I've said what i needed to say after both at this point so i wont belabor the point anymore (or at least i'll try not to)

If u wanna talk more abt tenet feel free to pm me

And again i think ur play here was fantastic, and that u deserve the win

[notscience]

I’m trying to be more receptive. I think you had it pegged when you said it was easy mode with no pressure when I wasn’t outed.

And as I already said I do apologize and will be trying to take everyone’s feedback into account into the future.

[unwnd]

Yeah that would definitely fuck up my worldview too

It was like playing IC, you didn't really have much pressure to be overtly town or even talk to people

Read the stuff I said in GY notty some of it is a bit jokey but I think it could help

[skitter30]

And ur all cool peeps and i dont think any of u intentionally sought to do this, that's just kinda ultimately how it played out. I do appreciate that y'all are willing to listen to feedback, ty

[Vaxkiller]

GG, well played fferyllt.

[Vaxkiller]

Sry for my poor play.

[Vaxkiller]

THis is almost exactly how I envisioned it 3 days ago.

[skitter30]

<3 was rooting for u in the dead pt

[borkjerfkin]

Gg all. Thanks for gettin it across the finish line <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sry for my poor play.

you played very well vax


that last flurry of posts was incredibly townie and your d5 posting was probably the towniest out of everyone alive. <3