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[Flea The Magician]

Sorry Llama, I forgot standard practice is to self vote in this situation :eyeroll:

[LlamaFluff]

Sorry Llama, I forgot standard practice is to self vote in this situation :eyeroll:

So is it standard scum practice to not vote against the biggest wagon alternative in this game state?

[LlamaFluff]

Pretty much what do you think it serves for Clidd-scum to try and heavily push Titus here? The only thing I can come up with involves a scumteam of Clidd-VFP-Gera.

[VFP]

Gera seems to be at the root of all possible scum teams.
Just throwing that out there.

[clidd]

Could you describe what you liked/disliked about my posting? no wallposts, thanks.

It's more or less in my last post.
Your showing effort and progression on reads. And looking to why they can be wrong. Personally I like that as a town mind set (without just mindless flip flopping)

Alright, thanks.

You have an inflated perception of me, since the positive aspects were more evident to you than the negative aspects. I also had periods where my progression was inconsistent on some slots and a flip-flop behavior happened between D1 and the middle of D2.

It's plausible for town!you to be surprised by the organic way I'm playing, but also ok for scum!Vfp to not attract my attention (especially after seeing how I behave with scumreads). Not good, but ok. Town!you explanation seems better, although that doesn’t make it more likely.

[clidd]

@clidd - How do you rectify Flea-town with that slot basically never targeting any of your other scum pool except some exchanges with VFP (and around 12 hours of voting Ame at one point)? Even now they seem to be more in self-preservation mode by voting you.

That slot just seems to have avoided basically all other slots who are likely scum at this point when it comes to any sort of push (outside now of you).

It's how my brain works.

If I think a slot is town, regardless of what it is doing (as long as I don't reevaluate it as scummy), I will not take action against it.

Unfortunately, I got the impression that Flea is town, although fea is not showing it now. I can be wrong, but that's what I think.

[LlamaFluff]

Gera seems to be at the root of all possible scum teams.
Just throwing that out there.

Yeah I know. Probably wouldnt be the worst last minute panic move of all time.

[clidd]

If I follow what my read says, fae is a foolish town playing badly, but stills town.

If scum, well, fae played correctly to make me townread faer by fighting with me earlier. But it's less likely to me.

[clidd]

Gera would not be soo good, but at least less worse than Flea, since he's a slot that will cause some doubt when the game reaches ELO for not being able to express himself properly.

[clidd]

I feel like town!Flea could also be angry with me for some reason, which could be making fae refuse to try to reassess me.

It's one of the hypotheses that I'm working with.

[LlamaFluff]

I feel like town!Flea could also be angry with me for some reason, which could be making fae refuse to try to reassess me.

It's one of the hypotheses that I'm working with.

That seems to really be painting yourself into a corner if scum again. Gera+Flea town, with you also town... thats borderline impossible. Leaves VFP, Titus and a PR Claim as it. Is Titus + VFP both scum in almost all of your scenarios? Feels like it.

[Flea The Magician]

Sorry Llama, I forgot standard practice is to self vote in this situation :eyeroll:

So is it standard scum practice to not vote against the biggest wagon alternative in this game state?

My options here are me or clidd, I'd love to see where a VFP wagon goes but its too late in the day I feel and there's a lot sat on me, there's no way I'm being unwagoned today and clidd is digging deeper. That's where I'm voting.

[clidd]

@Llama

I mean, I'm not 100% sure about anything.

Town!Flea considering that scum!Clidd chose to stay out of the main wagon, pushing an isolated wagon, saying that Flea is town and being pushed without defending himself is a very extreme line of thought. Probably the bridge to the parallel theory of me being wrong and scum!Flea abusing faer vote on my wagon. But in contrast, I visualize the slot's behavior, regardless of this specific point, as towny, which makes my conclusion go to the town side comparatively.

Regarding PoE, this game has been strange, ngl, but my solve is looking like: Titus + Vfp + A50 or Gera now.

The problem is that Vfp has seen me as town and is acting weird if he's scum, so idk. Titus acting like I'm the person doing the wrong thing is also weird.

Honestly, without seeing a scumflip it's quite impossible for me to be able to go beyond the speculative sphere and get my hands on a solution that I'm absolutely convinced is 90~100% correct.

[Flea The Magician]

Pretty much what do you think it serves for Clidd-scum to try and heavily push Titus here? The only thing I can come up with involves a scumteam of Clidd-VFP-Gera.

Either me and Clidd are aligned scumbuddies [lol]
Clidd wants to divert pressure from himself while gaining those precious townie points.

You're thinking Clidd scumteam without me, but your vote is on me... :eyeroll:

aww fuck they rolled outta my sockets... brb eye hunting.

[LlamaFluff]

Sorry Llama, I forgot standard practice is to self vote in this situation :eyeroll:

So is it standard scum practice to not vote against the biggest wagon alternative in this game state?

My options here are me or clidd, I'd love to see where a VFP wagon goes but its too late in the day I feel and there's a lot sat on me, there's no way I'm being unwagoned today and clidd is digging deeper. That's where I'm voting.

So you get a one shot day vig. Who is catching the bullet?

[Flea The Magician]

fae is a foolish town playing badly,

You just summed up my entire game play style

[clidd]

I'm also a fool too often, so it's not an offense ^

You could at least pretend to trust me and together we could try to move the votes for an alternative wagon.

Preferably, a scumread in common between us, which you judge as a potential partner for me and that I judge as scum.

[Flea The Magician]

wasn't taken offensively, it gets said often

I don't trust you is the thing Clidd, and honestly i'm happy with us two being todays wagons.

I'm hoping thats a language barrier thing, but don't you think it's a bit weird you want me to find your partner - who i've already stated suspicions on - and someone you think is scum, instead of my potential partners?

Who am I partnered with Clidd?

[clidd]

@Flea



I think that you're town, so I'm just disregarding hypothetical partners for you.

If I had to think, I would say that it's someone on my wagon, between Titus and Gera.

Now, working with the world of town!you, which is what I consider to be the most likely, I'm offering an alternative option to have a chance to hit scum and be able to avoid your elimination at the same time. It doesn't matter to me if you have the mentality of looking for my partner, as long as you don't get stuck in the game because you can't see scum beyond me.

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Gera

Your move both of you.

[clidd]

VOTE: geraintm

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Gera

[Almost50]

VOTE: Gera

VOTE: Gera

[VFP]

VOTE: Gera

[VFP]

If Gera flips red PR, then the entire wagon is town, remember that.
Gera goon most likely the same but still minor caution.

I don't see Gera flipping green here.