Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.04

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-04-21 10:15:00).

execution

Andresvmb [3]:

Asteria, Save The Dragons, Salsabil Faria

Haschel Cedricson [2]:

PawnsGambit, Anya

Save The Dragons [1]:

Green Crayons

osuka [1]:

VFP

Green Crayons [1]:

Haschel Cedricson

Andante [1]:

InsidiousLemons

PawnsGambit [1]:

osuka

VFP [1]:

Andresvmb

not voting [2]:

MaxTheFox, Andante

mod notes

~ MaxTheFox has (expired on 2021-04-12 22:10:00) to confirm their role pm before i start looking for a replacement
~ daddy

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[Andresvmb]

I think Anya’s instinct to vote a player that’s lurking given how the game has gone has some merit.

come on man isn’t this like scum 101

You know what I’ve learned from playing more than a few games around here? The Scum like to control the game state only when they absolutely have to (unless the Scum have a few really seasoned or skilled players, and there’s just not that many players like that out there). If they feel we’re closing in, then they start pushing back. Otherwise? They let the Town eat themselves. The easiest way to avoid that is by getting the harder players to read to either post or die.

[osuka]

I think Anya’s instinct to vote a player that’s lurking given how the game has gone has some merit.

come on man isn’t this like scum 101

You know what I’ve learned from playing more than a few games around here? The Scum like to control the game state only when they absolutely have to (unless the Scum have a few really seasoned or skilled players, and there’s just not that many players like that out there). If they feel we’re closing in, then they start pushing back. Otherwise? They let the Town eat themselves. The easiest way to avoid that is by getting the harder players to read to either post or die.

as scum, that’s a move that takes zero effort and has like nearly zero risk

[Andresvmb]

I think Anya’s instinct to vote a player that’s lurking given how the game has gone has some merit.

come on man isn’t this like scum 101

You know what I’ve learned from playing more than a few games around here? The Scum like to control the game state only when they absolutely have to (unless the Scum have a few really seasoned or skilled players, and there’s just not that many players like that out there). If they feel we’re closing in, then they start pushing back. Otherwise? They let the Town eat themselves. The easiest way to avoid that is by getting the harder players to read to either post or die.

as scum, that’s a move that takes zero effort and has like nearly zero risk

That’s only if the players we push don’t make any effort to fight back. And we do take substantial risk in leaving players that don’t want to actually make their alignments more obvious to the rest of us. You might think short term it’s a bad play, but I’ve lost way too many games because the more obvious players are killed first, the Town make a few mistakes, and the players left at the end have limited posting histories and bad voting records.

[PawnsGambit]

That's why you shouldn't vote out players for being obnoxious.

[osuka]

I think Anya’s instinct to vote a player that’s lurking given how the game has gone has some merit.

come on man isn’t this like scum 101

You know what I’ve learned from playing more than a few games around here? The Scum like to control the game state only when they absolutely have to (unless the Scum have a few really seasoned or skilled players, and there’s just not that many players like that out there). If they feel we’re closing in, then they start pushing back. Otherwise? They let the Town eat themselves. The easiest way to avoid that is by getting the harder players to read to either post or die.

as scum, that’s a move that takes zero effort and has like nearly zero risk

That’s only if the players we push don’t make any effort to fight back. And we do take substantial risk in leaving players that don’t want to actually make their alignments more obvious to the rest of us. You might think short term it’s a bad play, but I’ve lost way too many games because the more obvious players are killed first, the Town make a few mistakes, and the players left at the end have limited posting histories and bad voting records.

first of all: “we”?

i never said it’s a bad play. i just said it’s probably an ok one, and really what i said was that you shouldn’t give anya towncred for that

[osuka]

That's why you shouldn't vote out players for being obnoxious.

this takes the cake for being the least insightful post of the thread so far

[Andresvmb]

That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.

[Andresvmb]

first of all: “we”?

The Town.

[Andresvmb]

really what i said was that you shouldn’t give anya towncred for that

I haven’t made up my mind about Anya at all btw. But at the very least I can understand what they appear to be going for.

[osuka]

That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.

isn’t that like shitposting 101?

[Andresvmb]

That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.

isn’t that like shitposting 101?

Isn’t this just asking random questions 101?

[osuka]

first of all: “we”?

The Town.

i literally started the post you quoted with “as scum”

i’m not ready to call that a slip but that’s one of the weirdest posts i’ve ever seen from you

[osuka]

That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.

isn’t that like shitposting 101?

Isn’t this just asking random questions 101?

come on you’re better than this

i’m saying that’s a shitpost and you shouldn’t take it seriously

[PawnsGambit]

What's the most insightful post?

[Andresvmb]

first of all: “we”?

The Town.

i literally started the post you quoted with “as scum”

i’m not ready to call that a slip but that’s one of the weirdest posts i’ve ever seen from you

Scum slips are rare. And I don’t make them.

What I was saying is that we do run the risk of letting Scum get away with a few easy executions, yes. That’s a risk. But that only happens if the players being pushed don’t fight back. If they do, and we can correctly read the reactions, then we can move on and find a better target. People tend to more actively participate when they’re under pressure. I am tired of letting Town skate by just so that they can be made easy targets later in games.

[PawnsGambit]

first of all: “we”?

The Town.

i literally started the post you quoted with “as scum”

i’m not ready to call that a slip but that’s one of the weirdest posts i’ve ever seen from you

Scum slips are rare. And I don’t make them.

What I was saying is that we do run the risk of letting Scum get away with a few easy executions, yes. That’s a risk. But that only happens if the players being pushed don’t fight back. If they do, and we can correctly read the reactions, then we can move on and find a better target. People tend to more actively participate when they’re under pressure. I am tired of letting Town skate by just so that they can be made easy targets later in games.

Shouldn't you be more worried about scum lurkers than town lurkers?

[Andresvmb]

That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.

isn’t that like shitposting 101?

Isn’t this just asking random questions 101?

come on you’re better than this

i’m saying that’s a shitpost and you shouldn’t take it seriously

Yeah it’s a shitpost I agree. So? Where’s the real content? A player with two posts isn’t worth defending as far as I’m concerned.

[osuka]

first of all: “we”?

The Town.

i literally started the post you quoted with “as scum”

i’m not ready to call that a slip but that’s one of the weirdest posts i’ve ever seen from you

Scum slips are rare. And I don’t make them.

What I was saying is that we do run the risk of letting Scum get away with a few easy executions, yes. That’s a risk. But that only happens if the players being pushed don’t fight back. If they do, and we can correctly read the reactions, then we can move on and find a better target. People tend to more actively participate when they’re under pressure. I am tired of letting Town skate by just so that they can be made easy targets later in games.

other than the useless self meta i’m willing to call this an ok post

[Andresvmb]

Shouldn't you be more worried about scum lurkers than town lurkers?

What are you asking me exactly? Where is my vote right now?

[osuka]

That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.

isn’t that like shitposting 101?

Isn’t this just asking random questions 101?

come on you’re better than this

i’m saying that’s a shitpost and you shouldn’t take it seriously

Yeah it’s a shitpost I agree. So? Where’s the real content? A player with two posts isn’t worth defending as far as I’m concerned.

a player with no content can’t be pushed because they have no content so you couldn’t possibly read them. my point being, any read you have on a player with 2 posts, at least one of which is a shitpost, is completely made up

[osuka]

What's the most insightful post?

definitely not this one

[Haschel Cedricson]

Andres, you said that osuka's reaction seemed genuine. Can you elaborate? What would an ungenuine reaction from osuka look like?

He called me out for lying, which I obviously was since I was simply entering the game and throwing out nonsense. My perception is that osuka would have tried to buddy me if they were not being genuine. Like agreed with my post and voted the same player, or immediately placed me as Town (since I was quite obviously extending an olive branch). Instead, osuka gives me crap about putting misinformation out there. And then later, they question me for “defending them”. That seems like a Town player actually concerned about getting pocketed. So it earns a pass from me.

Mmm, that doesn't quite jibe with me. You clearly were making a joke and expected for it to be taken as a joke. Osuka's reaction of not believing you (prudent) while not acting like it was a blatant joke (not prudent at all) would be the last reaction I would expect.

I can explain what I was trying to do and you guys can tell me what you think.

I didn’t have a strong read of osuka when I first approached the game. But, last time we played, I failed to listen to them (in a way that clearly hurt the Town, since they were correct and I wasn’t), and so I wanted to let them stay in the game, provide input, and see where it lead. Yeah, they’re pretty tricky to read. But I thought I would give it a chance.

Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?

As an aside, the game has been open for less than 24 hours; nobody is a lurker yet. Osuka, you have more posts than the second and third most prolific posters combined. Dial it down.

[osuka]

Andres, you said that osuka's reaction seemed genuine. Can you elaborate? What would an ungenuine reaction from osuka look like?

He called me out for lying, which I obviously was since I was simply entering the game and throwing out nonsense. My perception is that osuka would have tried to buddy me if they were not being genuine. Like agreed with my post and voted the same player, or immediately placed me as Town (since I was quite obviously extending an olive branch). Instead, osuka gives me crap about putting misinformation out there. And then later, they question me for “defending them”. That seems like a Town player actually concerned about getting pocketed. So it earns a pass from me.

Mmm, that doesn't quite jibe with me. You clearly were making a joke and expected for it to be taken as a joke. Osuka's reaction of not believing you (prudent) while not acting like it was a blatant joke (not prudent at all) would be the last reaction I would expect.

I can explain what I was trying to do and you guys can tell me what you think.

I didn’t have a strong read of osuka when I first approached the game. But, last time we played, I failed to listen to them (in a way that clearly hurt the Town, since they were correct and I wasn’t), and so I wanted to let them stay in the game, provide input, and see where it lead. Yeah, they’re pretty tricky to read. But I thought I would give it a chance.

Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?

As an aside, the game has been open for less than 24 hours; nobody is a lurker yet. Osuka, you have more posts than the second and third most prolific posters combined. Dial it down.

yeah you’ve never played with me so just letting you know i’m not going anywhere anytime soon so expect high post count, short posts.

if someone has a problem with that they can take it up with the complaints department at 1-800-555-6969

[Andresvmb]

Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?

Not voting for them and asking for their thoughts.