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Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:30 am

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In post 4347, InsidiousLemons wrote:it's certainly thought-provoking, and there were definitely points where i was leaning towards "fuck the mechanics we should only be focusing on dayplay." town does hage a lot of firepower, but with such a mountain of WIFOM possibilities to sort through (# of unarmed scum, trustworthiness of a vig claim, etc) it feels a bit like giving a blind toddler a shotgun. i do think if we had caught one scum early we'd have been in a much better, maybe even town-favour position. town just needed that one flip to start peeling away the edges and we never got it. if nothing else this has definitely taught me that play-based voting reigns supreme on this godless website of lies and deception

@osuka fuck you you pinged me multiple times but i ignored it because the moments where you had me, you really had me
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what did i do to ping you? i can tell you i didnt feel threatened at any point in time during this game, like my head was never on the chopping block


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Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:31 am

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In post 4343, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the town had essentially 0 power in a game with 3 scum doctors that were more or less informed of the setup.
how so? neap can get innos, rolecop can get a guilty, gunsmith once claimed will probably be treated as an ic, one-shot detective is a little extra, and scum is essentially playing white flag considering if two of them flip, the rest of the setup will probably be figured out soon after.

granted, maybe i shouldn't be saying "gunsmith will be treated as an ic" considering what happened with the vig claim, but comparing this to mt 10v3 is a bit extreme i think.
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Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:32 am

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i think 3 10 MT is more winnable than this because the tprs in this game were minus ev
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Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:34 am

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not my fault yall didn't lim me 3 days straight smh
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Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:34 am

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setups fault*
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Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:35 am

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i am actually confident that if this game had been 3 - 10 MT that the town would have won decisively.
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Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:36 am

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In post 4353, DkKoba wrote:not my fault yall didn't lim me 3 days straight smh
the only reason you even lived was because we didnt think the town could possibly be so underpowered as to not have a vig lol.
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Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:39 am

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In post 4351, Datisi wrote:
In post 4343, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the town had essentially 0 power in a game with 3 scum doctors that were more or less informed of the setup.
how so? neap can get innos, rolecop can get a guilty, gunsmith once claimed will probably be treated as an ic, one-shot detective is a little extra, and scum is essentially playing white flag considering if two of them flip, the rest of the setup will probably be figured out soon after.

granted, maybe i shouldn't be saying "gunsmith will be treated as an ic" considering what happened with the vig claim, but comparing this to mt 10v3 is a bit extreme i think.
rolecop neapo gunsmith are not "strong" prs

strong prs are like IC, Mason, Vig because they are self confirming

this setup essentially had no strong tprs and wifom thrown in to subtract ev from townside.
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Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:40 am

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i like the concept behind the setup though. it's adding another layer of misdirection that i think is very welcome in mafia


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Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:47 am

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In post 4350, osuka wrote: hah that's funny

what did i do to ping you? i can tell you i didnt feel threatened at any point in time during this game, like my head was never on the chopping block
you overall went softer on me than other players and let mistakes slide without mention that i felt you wouldn't have if you weren't sure i was town. it read to me like you didn't want to put yourself up against me not because you strongly townread me, but because you felt there were easier pushes to make. the buddying paid off though because i really wanted you to be town

was a pretty blatant misrep

too lazy to skim your entire iso but there were just a few things over the course of the game that made my gut go "hm, a crack in the facade" but i ignored that because gut with little evidence does not a good case make. and also i felt like we were kind of fucked if you were scum lol

at least i know my gut reads are okay sometimes
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Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:50 am

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I dont think anyone can blame the setup for limming Asteria->Lemons back to back over me
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Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:54 am

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In post 4360, DkKoba wrote:I dont think anyone can blame the setup for limming Asteria->Lemons back to back over me
In post 4356, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the only reason you even lived was because we didnt think the town could possibly be so underpowered as to not have a vig lol.
if not for the setup making a non-vigged town completely unfathomable to me until it was clear there was no other option, you would've flipped the day you claimed
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Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:54 am

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the claim gambit was a clever one, i'll give you that, but even you have to admit it wouldn't have paid off if not for the setup
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Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:57 am

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it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig
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Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:58 am

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Meh I though Anya was Scum, definitely got some Scum pings from osuka, and wanted Koba dead. The execution of Asteria was ridiculous.
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Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:58 am

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this setup is the most scum sided thing ive played in 18 years on this site
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Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 6:58 am

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Anya and Insidious seemed so damn coordinated this game, I don’t know that I feel bad about that vote.
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Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:00 am

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I pointed to the fact that Crayons’ wagon should have meant they needed to die, and nobody listened. I wanted to save Asteria, and nobody listened. At some stage, I can’t be to blame for shit like this.
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Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:01 am

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we had a secret masons pt

jk its funny you say that because i couldn't get a bead on anya for basically the entire game

its part of what made VFP saying she seemed like "one of the easier players to read" stand out so much to me
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Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:02 am

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In post 4363, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig
We werent multitasking
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Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:03 am

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In post 4362, InsidiousLemons wrote:the claim gambit was a clever one, i'll give you that, but even you have to admit it wouldn't have paid off if not for the setup
I knew i get ccd by endgame.
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Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:04 am

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and nah andres you're not to blame i just think consensus and attention was unfortunately not on your side for most of the game. i could say we should've paid more heed to your posts but speaking for myself i didn't ignore your posts, i just considered them and then decided (incorrectly) that there were better options. if it eases your pain, i would've gone with town!andres over town!osuka in a gth situation
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Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:05 am

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In post 4369, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4363, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig
We werent multitasking
doesnt matter

theres no point for a town vig if the mafia are that powered up
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Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:06 am

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In post 4369, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4363, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig
We werent multitasking
i feel like "we could only protect 2 of our members every night, not 3" is a bit of a cop out

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Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:06 am

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gunsmith in a game with three mafia doctors is just lol level trolling <3

love you dats thanks for modding. always an experience.

havent been this tilted at a setup in years.
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