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Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:15 am

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In post 2651, Gypyx wrote:i honestly have no idea why Luca is town so could someone give bullet points on em'?
You seemed to think I was town earlier in the game. The only thing you sus'd me for D2 was based on my Icon push

Can you explain your read development on me please
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Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:17 am

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In post 2662, Gypyx wrote:i hoped for the sweet release of death ngl
It seems strange that you'd have this mindset given we're 2/2 for limming scum so far?

Unless you're scum yourself, that is
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Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:19 am

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it was just a soft TL iirc?

otherwise i'm just not seeing anything that conforts me in the view, which is worrying, a bit
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Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:21 am

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In post 2676, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2662, Gypyx wrote:i hoped for the sweet release of death ngl
It seems strange that you'd have this mindset given we're 2/2 for limming scum so far?

Unless you're scum yourself, that is
well, get in my view for a sec, i'm town, both of my major reads last day have been horribly wrong, and i came today thinking i was at least gonna bite a bullet and not have to worry about playing

yeah we're doing good overall but still
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Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:24 am

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In post 2673, Luca Blight wrote:Geraint has been really weird around both flipped scum players:

geraint fos'd George, then when some people voted george geraint vowed never to join the wagon because the wagon was apparently bad, even though he had no problem voting Icon despite complaining about the previous votes on him

It feels as though geraint wasn't being sincere with these stances and was instead trying to balance distancing with keeping his partners safe. I guess putting Icon to E-2 D1 was a risky move as scum, but he did so while highlighting how bad the wagon was, so it was basically a defence in a weird way.
Honestly, his terrible play is primarily why I think he is town here.
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Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:34 am

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I just don't get those views/stances from a town perspective

Like if gerant were town I'd have expected him to be stubborn about the george wagon and refuse to vote it, like he did with the gypyx wagon D2. I don't get why he randomly hammers there after saying what he said about the wagon, other than to gain a little towncred while it's still on offer
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Post Post #2681 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:37 am

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In post 2680, Luca Blight wrote:I just don't get those views/stances from a town perspective

Like if gerant were town I'd have expected him to be stubborn about the george wagon and refuse to vote it, like he did with the gypyx wagon D2. I don't get why he randomly hammers there after saying what he said about the wagon, other than to gain a little towncred while it's still on offer
It's a wash for me because I definitely don't see much if any scum benefit from that play either
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Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:38 am

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I kind of have a theory of the game, but it involves talking about power roles and IDK if we should go down that road.
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Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:38 am

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In post 2089, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1990, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1748, Iconeum wrote: If I had time i'd probably push Luca here while hiding behind wooper, but weekend vla is soonish and deadline etc

I'll take that fight tomorrow if there's a chance
This almost seems like something that was meant for the scum pt

it certainly doesn't seem like a townie mindset?
hey uh, i just realized but that's kinda taking stuff out of it's context there?
In post 2091, Gypyx wrote: 0 Luca Blight - he's got good stuff (overall tone), he's got bad stuff (his PoE and what i just pointed out) so idk
Gypyx, I was referring to these points above

How did your read on me develop after I explained in detail and pushed Icon based on it

Do you still think I'm sus for ?
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Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:41 am

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In post 2681, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2680, Luca Blight wrote:I just don't get those views/stances from a town perspective

Like if gerant were town I'd have expected him to be stubborn about the george wagon and refuse to vote it, like he did with the gypyx wagon D2. I don't get why he randomly hammers there after saying what he said about the wagon, other than to gain a little towncred while it's still on offer
It's a wash for me because I definitely don't see much if any scum benefit from that play either
Well the scum benefit in terms of defending george would be to protect his buddy

the benefit in terms of the hammer would be to claim some towncred, probably conscious of the fact that he would look bad for sticking his neck out for george. It makes some sense from a scum perspective imo, but very little sense from a townie one
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Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 3:48 am

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I thought this was a strange response to my slight suspicion D2, and my question was never answered
In post 2010, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2002, geraintm wrote:
In post 1994, Luca Blight wrote:Baltar and IV are very likely town

I'm actually a little less sure of geraint than I was before
what, even though a doctor died overnight (effectivly) confirming my claim you doubt me?
How does that confirm your claim?
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Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 4:28 am

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I mean, bless him, geraintm just seems super aloof to be scum. It's a too scummy to be scum argument for me.

Whereas Gypyx is scummy but in a non-contributing and evasive way. I don't think we should excuse his inactivity. Both scum so far have tried to make excuses for why they aren't actively hunting. I think they were all demoralized from the start and we shouldn't change our course now.
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Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 5:44 am

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idk, i'd be pretty pumped if i rolled a GB / Ico / Gypyx scumteam ngl

so yeah other than that idk what to say really
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Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 6:57 am

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Where have I heard this "I don't play like this as scum" argument before?
In post 2113, Iconeum wrote:you've literally JUST seen scum me in action

you've literally JUST seen how i try to take control of a town as scum

you've literally JUST seen how i do NOT kill datisi until late in the game as scum

and you try to sell this is my scumgame????????

no way ur this dense as town
In post 2211, Iconeum wrote:#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
In post 2214, Iconeum wrote:whatever

if this town needs my yeet to move on go for it
In post 2317, Iconeum wrote:i really don't wanna keep playing this card but like

luca

you *just* played a game with scum!me
i was under a TON of pressure day 1

did i respond so badly there?
i'm not saying you should townread me for it but using it as a means to scumread me is just wrong

*pedit
reallly? i think i was super agressive, not defensive?
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Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 6:58 am

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I'm still trying to determine whether Ico was actually out for Alice blood yesterday. On a skim of Ico's iso, I kind of think so.
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Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 7:25 am

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Elim geraint
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 7:44 am

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In post 2690, Not_Mafia wrote:Elim geraint
Another reason geraintm is probably town.
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Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 8:30 am

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In post 2690, Not_Mafia wrote:Elim geraint
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Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 8:34 am

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In post 2688, VP Baltar wrote:Where have I heard this "I don't play like this as scum" argument before?
In post 2113, Iconeum wrote:you've literally JUST seen scum me in action

you've literally JUST seen how i try to take control of a town as scum

you've literally JUST seen how i do NOT kill datisi until late in the game as scum

and you try to sell this is my scumgame????????

no way ur this dense as town
In post 2211, Iconeum wrote:#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
In post 2214, Iconeum wrote:whatever

if this town needs my yeet to move on go for it
In post 2317, Iconeum wrote:i really don't wanna keep playing this card but like

luca

you *just* played a game with scum!me
i was under a TON of pressure day 1

did i respond so badly there?
i'm not saying you should townread me for it but using it as a means to scumread me is just wrong

*pedit
reallly? i think i was super agressive, not defensive?
true, ico did it too, but first of all the argument is different, second of all there's nothing that prevents this coming from town
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Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 9:04 am

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Elim geraint
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Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 2693, Gypyx wrote:true, ico did it too, but first of all the argument is different, second of all there's nothing that prevents this coming from town
This is semantics. My point is that the "I would do X as scum" self meta is garbage. Self meta is garbage.

No one should do it. Ever.
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Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 2694, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Elim geraint
I haven't seen a convincing case of why geraintm before gypyx. Why do you feel that way?
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Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 9:42 am

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Mainly because they have fought against every scum elimination, and you're literally just saying "too scummy to be scum!".
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Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 9:51 am

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Yeah, I am. Scum don't fight against every scum elim typically. It's usually more of a split deal with not a lot of explanation, much like what Gypyx is doing. Plus the promises always of content later!

Meanwhile, Geraint pops in here about every day with some crazy theory and no shame about it.
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Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 10:04 am

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I feel like that assumes this was a competent scum team. When we have eliminated 2 so far.
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