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Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:23 pm
by AliceK
In post 2573, geraintm wrote:@ Norway.

Like, i know Scum have not played well this game - they've lost 2 players in 2 days - but you think my plan was to out myself day 1 with a role that exactly correctly my partner, hammer partner day 1, then go out of my way to make myself so obviously linked to the other scum day 2.
i've got that right?

that is more believable to you than me just blurting out my town role?

Why do people playing MAfia need to go looking for something 27 times more unlikely than the simpler explanation?
You just said that there is a strongman. What is your role exactly?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:43 pm
by geraintm
my role card was Informed Townie, and i was todl the followign information about the game's setup by the mod, that scum had a 1 shot strongman.

i blurted it out at the start because i was assuming town had some protective role, and i did not want town to get into the posistion where someone claimed doc and that they had used a protection but someone has still died, because that would just get too many people killed.

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:47 pm
by geraintm
Known roles (not seen this summary anywhere)

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya

anything else i've missed?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:47 pm
by geraintm
Alice - have you only had 1 investigation all game??

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:50 pm
by AliceK
In post 2577, geraintm wrote:Known roles (not seen this summary anywhere)

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya

anything else i've missed?
N_M - Vigilante

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:50 pm
by geraintm
Known roles (not seen this summary anywhere)

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya
Not mafia - vigilante [forgot this]

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:51 pm
by geraintm
Players left

Not_Mafia - claimed Vigilante
Gypyx
geraintm - informed townie
NorwegianboyEE
Iconeum
innocentvillager
Anya - Green from a clear by ALice K
Luca Blight
AliceK - claimed cop
VP Baltar

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:52 pm
by geraintm
i am 100% beleiving Anya is town now by the way, i cannot see a situation where they are scum

Players left

Not_Mafia - claimed Vigilante
Gypyx
geraintm - informed townie
NorwegianboyEE
Anya - Green from a clear by ALice K
Luca Blight
AliceK - claimed cop
VP Baltar

[sorry, took that list from the front page and it wasn't updated]

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:54 pm
by geraintm
For me, the pool that scum could possibly be is

Gypyx
Norway
Luca
AliceK
VP Baltar

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:21 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2573, geraintm wrote:Why do people playing MAfia need to go looking for something 27 times more unlikely than the simpler explanation?
And the simpler explanation is?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:27 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
You were also really opposed to the George elimination before *begrudgingly* hammering him. And you also opposed Ico elimination yesterday.
I think it’s a lot more likely than you’re making it seem that you’re scum here.
This is literally going against my previous read on you, because it just feels like you’ve defended scum all this time.

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:35 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
And you killed IV because you felt Ico’s death spewed him town.
Boom, game solved.

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:36 pm
by Gypyx
i'll need to take another look at gera's early game

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:40 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Geraint prob felt intimidated by the playerlist and came up with a informed stunt using his teammates role to now get immediately PoE’d or eliminated early. As he voiced as his direct reason for claiming what he did on his first post.

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:40 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2588, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Geraint prob felt intimidated by the playerlist and came up with a informed stunt using his teammates role to not get immediately PoE’d or eliminated early. As he voiced as his direct reason for claiming what he did on his first post.
Ebwop

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:03 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 2577, geraintm wrote: iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
Erm, he was a strongman, not a roleblocker

I'm wondering if this is a slip of what the other scum PR is, as a scum RB would make sense here

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:08 pm
by Gypyx
VOTE: geraitm

there's this also
In post 2280, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2276, Iconeum wrote:
In post 71, Gypyx wrote:
In post 66, Iconeum wrote:
In post 62, Gypyx wrote:actually hmmmm

given the claim, there's a possibility for it being ico + gera

not really stuff i'd bank on, just higher odds
please

tell me more
ongoing game kinda

will explain when time comes
why does scum!gyp refer to an ongoing game to explain something? with the game over, i know he was watching my scum play in action so maybe he saw something

why does scum!gyp set up a scumread on me to later backpedal when heat turns up and i'm actually a viable misflip? he literally has every opportunity to get me here and have a justified vote on me

but instead he doubles down on defending me?
oh yeah i can explain that also !

basically, in a normal game (forgot the number) ico was planning to claim town informed who knows there's an encryptor, and this is pretty damn similar to gera's claim

considered it ongoing ongoing because i got aware of this game via datisi's notes PT in 2201

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:09 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 2573, geraintm wrote:@ Norway.

Like, i know Scum have not played well this game - they've lost 2 players in 2 days - but you think my plan was to out myself day 1 with a role that exactly correctly my partner, hammer partner day 1, then go out of my way to make myself so obviously linked to the other scum day 2.
i've got that right?

that is more believable to you than me just blurting out my town role?

Why do people playing MAfia need to go looking for something 27 times more unlikely than the simpler explanation?
Your hammer was irrelevant as George was a gonner anyway, and it seems suspect in that you had earlier said you'd never vote him

I don't see how you made yourself linked to Icon particularly other than by not bussing him. Not wanting to bus your only other partner D2 is pretty natural.

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:11 pm
by Luca Blight
Both Icon and geraint have white-knighted gypyx this game as well, so maybe that was part of some gameplan

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:13 pm
by geraintm
In post 2590, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2577, geraintm wrote: iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
Erm, he was a strongman, not a roleblocker

I'm wondering if this is a slip of what the other scum PR is, as a scum RB would make sense here
a slip. the slot above was roleblocker. i clearly knew they were strongman as it was in my claim

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:15 pm
by Luca Blight
I know you know, but in the moment such mistakes can happen

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:17 pm
by Luca Blight
Icon was the only one to sus geraint's opening claim, which is perhaps TMI? It didn't really make sense for scum to fake such a stance on a townie in that situation especially when everyone else was townreading geraint for it. It seemed to be for the purposes of scum theatre, which Icon/geraint engaged in a lot

Icon then allowed himself to be talked around to geraint being town after all

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:18 pm
by geraintm
there is literally no effort being made by people today so far to look beyond me. i am not surprised to be honest.

i will come up green, it is no great loss as town has a bunch of days left to work this out and i have literally nothing else to add to this game besides my initial claim.

oh, im not intimidated by the player list. i recognise i think..2 people? rest of you are utter blanks to me.

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:19 pm
by geraintm
In post 2595, Luca Blight wrote:I know you know, but in the moment such mistakes can happen
i love how the working theory is that i am some sort of scum mastermind who faked a claim day 1, then managed to get both my partners eliminated in the first 2 days and yet slip on this :)

still waiting to know if our cop has cleared anyone else besides ANya.

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:20 pm
by AliceK
Yeah a lot of things are coming together. It doesn't look too good for you geraintm. I will probably vote you, but I will wait for everyone to post.