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[petapan]

i realize i townbinned ta vera for dumpstering skitter's claim immediately, probably need to re-evaluate and discard that

[Morning Tweet]

I would agree if not for just how plausible i think a Ydrasse elim was at the start of today

Like Ydrasse was a fabulous distraction.. sooo i dunno. It feels like if Ydrasse stole the show skitts might have been able to squeak out of that if it hadnt been pointed out so hard (and hadnt been guiltied lol)

I feel like keeping Ydrasse in your options is just.. better

The only problem is that Titanic scum prolllllyyyy wouldn't do that

But in my summary of how everyone played the start of the day, Dwlee is probably the closest to how i would have played as scum there -- keep Ydrasse in contention until that's not viable. Don't outright accuse partner unless it ends up getting brought up.

Not everyone's me though and it is hard to say how fucked scum viewed skitts as.

[petapan]

i guess in a sense with a bunch of people gunning for her, if she is town it'd make sense to try to get that off but idk how viable it would be, people are going to be cautious about not quick-elimming and they sort of look like complete ass if ydrasse gets flashwagoned and skitter quickhammers and she flips town. sometimes you want to beat the rush because you expect someone else to pick up the clues.

idk like, anecdotally, there's this story from offsite about a game where someone scumslipped by making a post that was meant to go in the scum PT in the main thread, and somehow no one picked up on it at the moment it was made, and eventually their teammate is the one who points it out and he goes on to endgame off the credit from that. obviously this is not the same situation but that's what i'm wary of here

[Morning Tweet]

Fair enough, scum can be more cognizant of that kind of thing and have a distorted impression of how bad things look

i just wonder what the gameplan for scum is if they accept getting skitts killed today

I suppose you either drive her into the dirt as fast as possible (Titanic) or hedge your bets and hope Ydrasse dies (Dwlee, lesser extent ta vera). Ta vera feels like they have somewhat of a hard progression to fake as scum.. if the plan were to bus skitts idk why you vote Ydrasse and only kind of implicate skitts then proceed to implicate skitts real hard and switch rather than just start voting skitts

Dragon can technically be scum who is just not paying attention i guess although i find it a bit more believable that he'd be town

not sure there are any other contenders for me

[Morning Tweet]

It just feels like a losing game if you try to bus skitts and ride on the cred to me tbh

But its possible they felt they had no choice yeah.

If it is Titanic trying to do that and he successfully defends Ydrasse or whatever, are there even enough mislims for him to win

Like had Ydrasse died today i find it conceivable that scum feels they could nightkill someone favourable and MAYBE accuse Mena in the future. Maybe they could have gotten away with it. Or if ydrasse died then skitts, thats still a lot better than having Ydrasse end up being agreed as town

[Dwlee99]

I had ydrasse/skitter scumreads day two until Titanic and t3 lured me away.

[ta vera]

do people want me to catch up before the day is finished?

[petapan]

i don't care that much, i assume you're going to be here tomorrow no matter what

[Dragon of the West]

Is scum knowing the setup like a huge balancing factor? Because if all the claims are true we'll have 5 PRs which seems like A LOT even if scum know the setup. If all 5 of the claims are real, do we think scum would have to have 2 PRs?

[petapan]

mini normals in my recent experience have trended PR-heavy

i think knowing the setup + the loud modifier on the neap + the lazy modifer are counterbalancing factors, my PR is barely useful by itself (but does weaken the neapolitan somewhat). we don't know what, if any, power roles the scum have, although roleblocker seems unlikely. my team in gypyx's last game had some neat toys, town seems kind of loaded here, i'd assume there's something

in the team mafia mini normal mafia knew the setup and there were 4 power roles, but team mafia games tend to be balanced to be slightly more scumsided than usual because team mafia towns have the advantage of players having their teammates help them solve the game

as it is the only one of those you should be worried about is me because if mena or tweet were scum they would have to keep giving clears and would eventually box themselves in (there are of course plenty of other obvious reasons they are not scum fakeclaiming here)

[Dragon of the West]

Cool, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you. I hadn't considered how a lot of the roles were weakened or countered each other so it's not necessarily an overpowered town assuming scum have

something

. Definitely makes me less paranoid of Mena's slot, I was kinda worried there were too many PR claims to be reasonable

[Dwlee99]

Roaming Detective
Combined Hider Bodyguard
Universal Backup
1-shot Simple Vigilante

Vs

Complex Fruit Vendor

was a setup so I assume scum have more power this game

[Titanic]

Can we get the hammer down

[Titanic]

I lack any passion for this game

[Titanic]

petapan's vibes feel a little off

I will not elaborate on this further at this time

are you ever going to elaborate on this btw

Less aggressive, more amiable

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Skitter

[Titanic]

salute

[petapan]

petapan's vibes feel a little off

I will not elaborate on this further at this time

are you ever going to elaborate on this btw

Less aggressive, more amiable

oh well that's not incorrect but there's a reason for that

[Titanic]

Yeah?

[Titanic]

i'm trying to find a way to comment on hectic and ydrasse's reads on each other that won't make me seem like a dick

When I believe she's scum, I scumread her

See Pooky's dance game as an example

[petapan]

Yeah?

i can't really get into it but i'm just trying to be more restrained because i have been unhappy with my townplay recently

[Dragon of the West]

I'll be hammering in ~an hour from now unless someone beats me to it

[Titanic]

Power to you then

I'll probably read over Ico and skitt's reads and interactions with the living players tomorrow, that's usually fun to do

[Menalque]

I think I already said this is like the busiest week of the year for me so I’d like to hear more from ta vera before hammer happens (which also means, again, unvoting please)

I’d also like MT to confirm she’s happy with the pools I suggested for our PRs

[Menalque]

I feel like peta’s level of aggression is not AI