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[Andresvmb]

I mean, if people had just actually paid attention to literally anything I posted, we could have had a chance.

I wasn't not limming Wiki

My thoughts are posted to the Dead Thread there. I don’t want to just bash Wiki - I think Wiki needs to rethink how they approach pushing players. But they were also like never Scum haha and despite their poor play, Town should have tried for the more obvious ones. I mean when I call out 3/4 Scum Day 1 in Gamma/T3/Datisi, and then say that Ico/Datisi could have done that awkward distancing as Scum buddies, and we end up with back to back executions of Three/Wiki/Dorsey, I can’t defend the play. We really didn’t need PRs, just common sense.

[Dwlee99]

I agree on common sense, just I am not not eliminating someone who counter claimed jailkeeper there no matter how townie they seemed

[Andresvmb]

I agree on common sense, just I am not not eliminating someone who counter claimed jailkeeper there no matter how townie they seemed

You don’t if you want to win above holding up certain (valid) rules. I’m notoriously bad at this since I also just feel like railroading anyone that makes an obvious fake claim or does something really idiotic and anti-Town, so I’m not going to lecture anyone here. But the Scum did reveal themselves here.

[Andresvmb]

@DW you were also a Town leader and clear Town to me so we just couldn’t agree on a correct execution and that just sucks. I’ve had T3 nailed as Scum a few times now. I need to be just a bit more confident there.

[Dorsey]

But did you make friends, tho, cuz clearly that was the point.
@Datisi, who are you inviting to brunch for being so submissive to you?

[Datisi]

all i'm saying, there's a reason why there was so little discussion about who we're gonna kill night 1. andres, stop rolling town against me >_>

as much as i'd like to say for myself that i would've figured out wiki was town here if i was town, i know i most likely wouldn't.

[Dorsey]

Who will you breed, Datisi

[Datisi]

please stop making comments like that.

[Andresvmb]

all i'm saying, there's a reason why there was so little discussion about who we're gonna kill night 1. andres, stop rolling town against me >_>

as much as i'd like to say for myself that i would've figured out wiki was town here if i was town, i know i most likely wouldn't.

You were definitely shitting your pants when I called out every vote you had put down. And I was right too.

[Andresvmb]

Ugh once Three flipped Town and I was NK’ed @Datisi you should have been executed. And then you start looking at Ico/T3 for sure and have a chance.

[Datisi]

yep, i should have been. too bad the only person who would've known and be able to push that through mysteriously died.

[Dwlee99]

@DW you were also a Town leader and clear Town to me so we just couldn’t agree on a correct execution and that just sucks. I’ve had T3 nailed as Scum a few times now. I need to be just a bit more confident there.

I didn't have great reads this game and that's my bad.

[Enchant]

This game mostly was failed by wiki and me.

[Dorsey]

Where can I sign up for the cult

[Salsabil Faria]

This game mostly was failed by wiki and me.

[Selynee]

Checked to see the end of it. GG, nice played Datisi.

Sorry about replacing. Know it was a really bad move. Especially since I've left my replacement with 100 pages to read. But this type of game is a mistake for me. Lets just say I have a lot to think about in real life. Pondering about my intelligence cuz of a game is ...not the best choice I could make.

[Enchant]

This game mostly was failed by wiki and me.

I don't think you voting after Almost50 really mattered, it was doomed beforehand.

[Looker]

Who will you breed, Datisi

I want to dethrone Ico as your lackey and take his place

[Looker]

I think the key to winning an argument is just to call the other person stupid...loudly

[T3]

I think the key to winning an argument is just to call the other person stupid...loudly

Yes

[Wiki]

I found all mafia + dwlee who said that all mafia are townies.
Then i was voted by my townie Three and mafia won.
Thanks for the game.
Play using meta and other random shit more, logic sucks, i know.

I repeated my list of scums on day2, but who cares about it on d2-d3 after my death. Dont you know that last words of the dead player are important?

During the whole first day I said Three is town, Dorsey is town, but who cares? It is better to vote me, then dorsey after me, very nice idea.

Nobody played using opinions of dead townies - Andre and Wiki, we found almost the whole team correctly.

I brought good professional reasons why ico is scum and i show you examples why datisi and t3 are together, you had to read their isos together, looking for dialogs vetween tyem, like i asked.
I also talked about mafia Gamma, but he was connected with gera for me, so it doesnt matter so much

[Dwlee99]

Wiki you called everyone in the game scum at one point

[ChaosOmega]

@mod

, i don't need any redactions in the scum pt.

could you please also ask in the review thread to have it released? this setup feels... fairly scumsided with 4 town power roles and 4 scum, i wanna see the thoughts behind it.

Review PT

[Looker]

Bumping this for a rules/policy clarification. The Traitor Mailman wants to send a message "You have received a Friendly Neighbor message. Looker is aligned with Town." With the formatting of the message, this will not go well for him. Should I step in here and tell him how the message is formatted when delivered, or is that mod interference?

Clutch

[Three]

oh and three, about what you said in the game. i was scum so obviously a lot of my arguments were exaggerated for exaggeration sake, but i do partly believe in what i was pushing, that is that a lot of your posts were confusing and could've easily been taken as bad faith. i can't tell for sure what i would've as town, but it's possible i would've done the same thing. so with that said, if you want to avoid me going forward, i'll respect that.

You were just playing the game so there's nothing to be mad about in that regard. There was just such a massive disconnect between what you were saying and what was actually happening + all of the blatant manipulation that was going on, yet with everyone so adamant that you were town despite that, it made me think that if you genuinely were town that you were impossible to work with while town was just fine with that and even encouraging it.

With the context that you were scum though, I don't think our arguments ever happen to begin with. The Dwlee/Wiki thing was overblown and Salsa's misrep accusation was just wrong (and T3 actually misrepped her and got away with it!)

Lowkey this was just a cult game but town recruited themselves lol.