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[Andresvmb]

We’re executing Alice. Depending on the flip, I will decide whether to shoot JV. It’s possible I don’t take a shot if AliceK flips Scum. If they flip Town, I will certainly shoot JV.

[Dwlee99]

You should take a shot regardless of Alice flip. Only downside could be shooting gunsmith

[Andresvmb]

If JV is Scum, then some of you need to rethink what to make of ILuvYthan. I want Ythan more properly scrutinized. And don’t forget that perhaps the Scum Doctor doesn’t get bussed, but the two remaining Scum are probably distancing hard since it’s their only chance at a victory.

[Andresvmb]

You should take a shot regardless of Alice flip. Only downside could be shooting gunsmith

Yeah I’m a bit worried about this. To be honest I’ve always thought of Vigs as negative utility.

[Andresvmb]

And I’m not prone to errors as we have already seen. I’ll do my best with my next shot and read more carefully.

Needless to say, NotMafia can’t make Endgame either even if I really don’t think Scum would outright claim Vig in this setup.

[Andresvmb]

And I’m not prone to errors as we have already seen. I’ll do my best with my next shot and read more carefully.

Needless to say, NotMafia can’t make Endgame either even if I really don’t think Scum would outright claim Vig in this setup.

Not not prone* I was trying to say I can make mistakes.

[Dwlee99]

You should take a shot regardless of Alice flip. Only downside could be shooting gunsmith

Yeah I’m a bit worried about this. To be honest I’ve always thought of Vigs as negative utility.

With your second shot we get an extra town directed kill. Otherwise we will just be on evens

[Andresvmb]

I will shoot fine. I’ll just give it some more thought. I do want the information of the flip. If Alice is Town, I’m shooting JV always. If Alice is Scum, I need to read through the game again.

[UglyDuck]

Evens is not so bad... when the even number is 10 and the skum number is 1.
That being said - just shoot one of the ythans (preferably iluv) if the exile is red today.

[Almost50]

If you didn't get to eat turkey, you can always go for an ugly duck instead.

[Almost50]

This was me just making sure I posted in this thread. It does not express any read

[UglyDuck]

ha.
also - why are we set on Alice for the exile. I think if we are approaching from a exile-then shoot other if green pov... I think JV more likely red than Alice. Which obviously isn't agreed upon... but I don't really get that.

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: AliceK

[Almost50]

ha.
also - why are we set on Alice for the exile. I think if we are approaching from a exile-then shoot other if green pov... I think JV more likely red than Alice. Which obviously isn't agreed upon... but I don't really get that.

I do agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment

[Ythan]

Please don't shoot my friend.

Hope you all had a nice Thanksgiving, or Thursday as the case may be.

[JacksonVirgo]

Andres tell us what we are doing

If you need a conftown to guide you, you're doing it wrong

[JacksonVirgo]

Imagine thinking scum play this black and white to just straight up defend a buddy that was very likely going to die.

[JacksonVirgo]

It has come to my attention that I know alice from another forum mafia site, no idea where no idea who but they know me from a time when I actually played decently as town.

So that probably is how they think me talking = town. Not talking = scum. OwO

[AliceK]

I am almost sure that STD is scum, if you take into account what Kyoko did before was hammered.

explain

I will elaborate when I will find time somewhere tomorrow. There is much to say.

[LicketyQuickety]

Vote Count 2.6

JacksonVirgo - 2: Almost50, JacksonVirgo
Almost50 - 0
Aaron - 0
Not_Mafia - 0
Dwlee99 - 0
AliceK - 4: Andresvmb, Dwlee, Three, Save The Dragons
ILUVYTHAN - 1: UglyDuck
Ythan - 0
Save The Dragons - 1: AliceK
Three - 0
UglyDuck - 0
Andresvmb - 0
No Elim - 0

Not Voting - 4: Not_Mafia, ILUVYTHAN, Ythan, Aaron

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Eliminate.

Day 1 Ends in (expired on 2021-11-28 20:00:00)

Mod Notes: Prodding Aaron and Three.

[Three]

I wasn't posting because of Thanksgiving but also because I don't really have anything further to add. Unless Alice has a convincing enough case to make me go back to StD, I don't really plan to vote him today due to his AtE.

[Three]

Imagine thinking scum play this black and white to just straight up defend a buddy that was very likely going to die.

This isn't quite true. Kyo got wagon'd at the last minute, but you defended her throughout the day. Her elimination was never a certain or even likely thing to happen at any point in the day.

[AliceK]

Let me explain why I am voting Save The Dragons and why most likely right now we are on path to quickly lose the game.

At post 503 Kyoko wagon was getting a momentum with a third vote from Ugly Duck. Before that happened we have multiple people with no reaction to the wagon:

Save The Dragons

Voted mozamis closer to the day start and his vote stayed. Explained that because he wasn't feeling good, but it was 4 days between his last content post and eod. Of course could be that he ignored game for 4 days, but he could also willing not post, because there are 2 people who try to eliminate someone else than Kyoko, so why do anything. But the fact he jumped on me and Jackson who were drawing people away from the Kyoko wagon in my opinion is a part of scum agenda. No one will ask questions when me and Jackson will flip town, because we were protecting scum.

ILUVYTHAN

The same you can say about ILUVYTHAN, except for the reason why they were not posting which was sheeping Ythan. I think their recent reads are very careful, which is scum indicative. They put only JV as a scumlean. Quite suspicious to not have a strong scum read at this point of the game. 2nd person to be gone.

Ythan

Ythan is actually unreadable to me. Ignored what was going on Day 1 completely. Could have the same reason as STD, that someone is protecting Kyo, so do nothing. 3rd person to be gone.

Now people who were involved in Kyoko elimination:

Dwlee

Not much to be said here. I think Dwlee is to smart too bus detection immune mafia, especially that he had many opportunities to change a direction of the lim, but decided to stick to Kyoko. On the wagon he started. Strong Town read here.

Ugly Duck

Was a 3rd vote on Kyoko and decided to not change. Of course it could be "Oh no, I screwed up" moment in which he decided to not do anything especially that me and Jackson come to the rescue. Jumped on people who were on RC wagon. Could be in team with Jackson, but I think that giving a momentum to partner's wagon is something what he as scum wouldn't do.

Not Mafia

No clue about this guy. I think there are 0 information about his alignment. He wouldn't claim vigilante as Mafia? Could be, but what if he planned to do that, before even getting a RC.

Three

He switched to Kyoko two times. The first time was quite scummy, because he immidiatly went back to A50, but the 2nd vote had an influence on who will be eliminated. I don't think he would switch from A50 to Kyoko as scum, without providing any arguments behind any of these wagons. I am very sure he is Town.

Aaron

I think his jump on Kyoko wagon was at the point where it was likely that Kyoko will be limed anyway. Weird interaction with Jackson Day 2. He is quite likely scum, because of 2 reasons: he is quite passive about Andres wanting to kill both me and Jackson. Complaining about being a potential target, but doesn't provide his reads. Scums have tendency to not interfere when Town is settled where to lim. I think it is very likely that he is scum with someone from RC wagon. Read that he is a scum with Jackson is silly. No idea where Anders get it.

Almost50

I have no idea how he wasn't eliminated Day 1, well thankfully no one was listening to me. He still can be a scum with Kyoko. He was chilling too much eod 1 which makes sense if it didn't matter who should be eliminated and could be that he wanted to be eliminated to protect doctor (which is probably the best mafia role as it has a detection immunity). Im sure he is not scum with Jackson and STD.

Who left is andres who is claimed Vig, so nothing to say about it and Jackson who was on A50 wagon.

JacksonVirgo

I think he is Town. I did the same Day 1, pushed hard Almost50 which was way more scummy than Kyo imo. I think his frustration Day 2 wasn't actually caused by elimination of Mafia, but rather Aaron's bad post about night kills (yeah, it was stupid Aaron, jeez). I genuinly think he is solving in oposite to most of the people in the game. I think he is Town.


I think everyone are doing follow the Vig, which obviously gives no information about anyone. Surprisingly.

I think I am just unlucky that I pushed my reads too hard Day 1. I am being confident, because I am usually on point with reads and had many situations when I regret going with the flow.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Aaron will stop gamethrowing now.

[JacksonVirgo]

:O