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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:15 pm
by Dwlee99
Why aren't there two flips

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:22 pm
by Ythan
Morning friends especially ILY.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:44 pm
by Three
Lmao if Vig and Mafia both shot JV.

Anyway, VOTE: Aaron

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:48 pm
by Aaron
So scum thought that gunsmith was more worth their time than vigilante? I guess that sort of makes sense given gunsmith guilties them. I'm trying to think about if the shot says anything about the last scum member. At first I thought it was a poor shot since it was much more clear that Andres was town than JacksonVirgo but now that I understand it, I'm not entirely sure if that means scum is bad.

It's good Andres is still here and I would imagine he didn't shoot last night. It doesn't make sense to shoot someone who claimed pr even if they were really scummy.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:14 pm
by Three
In post 221, Three wrote:
In post 217, Three wrote:
In post 203, AliceK wrote:I am not against policy liming problematic slots day 1, but only if there is no other viable options.

VOTE: Three
He is pushing lowposters, not giving much other reads especially townreads. Also conversation about mechanics is a cheap way to get towncred, sone scums do that.

Yeah his last post is ate... yeah I think it is good choice he flips scum
It's like I can see the future lmaooooo
Unironically though this is probably scum. They aren't engaging with me in any way yet think I'm likely to flip scum because I haven't given many reads in a game where barely anyone is playing, let alone giving more than one or two reads.

Also, uh, AtE? Do you know what AtE is...? Or how it's used? Because that isn't it.

VOTE: Alice

Vote to stop the lol hammer and because scum made the dumbest post possible. What you did isn't pressure Alice, it's a proclamation of having zero thought processes behind your vote.
Rereading Alice's ISO and I forgot about this lol.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:29 pm
by Three
In post 1048, LicketyQuickety wrote:Day 3 Begins!

Vote Count 3.0Almost50 - 0
Aaron - 0:
Not_Mafia - 0
Dwlee99 - 0
AliceK - 0
ILUVYTHAN - 0
Ythan - 0
Save The Dragons - 0
Three - 0
UglyDuck - 0
Andresvmb - 0
No Elim - 0

Not Voting - 0

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Eliminate.

Day 1 Ends in (expired on 2021-12-13 20:15:00)

Mod Notes: Massive apologies for the late start on the game.
Alice should be dead and only 10 should be alive, btw.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:38 pm
by Andresvmb
It’s fascinating that I am smarter than the Mafia yet I couldn’t figure out who the Scum was.

I shot JV. That PR Claim was obvious nonsense. It’s the greatest thing JV has done all game. I am also amazed my instincts there were good, even if I went back on it later.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:44 pm
by Aaron
I believed the claim personally. It was a good call though because they were under a lot of pressure. In hindsight, the "no one talk" was a clear indicator that I didn't pick up on.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:58 pm
by ILUVYTHAN
In post 1051, Ythan wrote:Morning friends especially ILY.
<3

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:02 pm
by Three
In post 1053, Aaron wrote:So scum thought that gunsmith was more worth their time than vigilante? I guess that sort of makes sense given gunsmith guilties them. I'm trying to think about if the shot says anything about the last scum member. At first I thought it was a poor shot since it was much more clear that Andres was town than JacksonVirgo but now that I understand it, I'm not entirely sure if that means scum is bad.

It's good Andres is still here and I would imagine he didn't shoot last night. It doesn't make sense to shoot someone who claimed pr even if they were really scummy.
This would imply the final scum isn't afraid of getting shot. Which I think is five people? Dwlee, A50, UglyDuck, NM, and myself. Aaron, StD, and the Ythans are the top candidates for execution from what I understand.

I've misread Dwlee once before but they also weren't trying as hard as they have been here. If they're a deep wolf then they hard bussed both of their partners who had much better PRs. I could see an argument that maybe the Kyo wagon was the most optimal time to bus, but why bus Alice? They could've easily coasted by with the Kyo wagon alone, and there were enough suspicious slots that Alice had a good chance of surviving for at least a couple rounds.

Honestly, Dwlee is the only town read I feel confident about. I feel good about A50 as well but it's not as strong a read, I'll have to reread his ISO but he's never my first choice for elimination today. UglyDuck and NM are both players I've gone back and forth on so I wouldn't be against pressuring there.

VOTE: UglyDuck

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:07 pm
by Three
In post 731, AliceK wrote:I think I will look at these people:
ILUVYTHAN, Ythan, Save The Dragons, Andresvmb
who missed opportunity to express opinion about A50 vs Kyoko. Expecially ILUVYTHAN and Ythan are doing completely nothing.
Actually, scum could be in here.

Man I hate scum hunting with just one mafia left. It's the easiest time to hide within town if you haven't scum slipped or had zero obvious associations with your team.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:10 pm
by UglyDuck
In post 1056, Andresvmb wrote:It’s fascinating that I am smarter than the Mafia yet I couldn’t figure out who the Scum was.

I shot JV. That PR Claim was obvious nonsense. It’s the greatest thing JV has done all game. I am also amazed my instincts there were good, even if I went back on it later.

Meh - they knew they would be run up tomorrow and the claim keeps you alive. Matters not but not sure how you misread that one.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:15 pm
by LicketyQuickety
Mod NoteSeeking a replacement for ILUVYTHAN.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:16 pm
by Three
viewtopic.php?t=88192&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

If anyone wants to help me parse and analyze this, feel free to do so.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:37 pm
by Ythan
In post 870, Ythan wrote:
In post 868, LicketyQuickety wrote:Replacing ILUVYTHAN
Thanks for sticking it out this long that was fun. I'll try to win this for you (even if you're scum).

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:03 pm
by Dwlee99
We should check if we are in autowin, but I don't feel like counting rn

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:20 pm
by Three
In post 1062, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Mod NoteSeeking a replacement for ILUVYTHAN.
I think my PoE is UglyDuck > Aaron > StD.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:30 pm
by UglyDuck
In post 1063, Three wrote:viewtopic.php?t=88192&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

If anyone wants to help me parse and analyze this, feel free to do so.
it is just a list of alice quotes. did you intend something more specific.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:32 pm
by UglyDuck
In post 1066, Three wrote:
In post 1062, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Mod NoteSeeking a replacement for ILUVYTHAN.
I think my PoE is UglyDuck > Aaron > StD.
odd

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:06 pm
by Three
In post 1067, UglyDuck wrote:
In post 1063, Three wrote:viewtopic.php?t=88192&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

If anyone wants to help me parse and analyze this, feel free to do so.
it is just a list of alice quotes. did you intend something more specific.
Scroll down more. It's the combined ISOs of both flipped scum.
In post 1068, UglyDuck wrote:
In post 1066, Three wrote:
In post 1062, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Mod NoteSeeking a replacement for ILUVYTHAN.
I think my PoE is UglyDuck > Aaron > StD.
odd
How so?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:26 pm
by Dwlee99
Almost50 - 0
Aaron - 0
Not_Mafia - 0
Dwlee99 - 0
ILUVYTHAN - 0
Ythan - 0
Save The Dragons - 0
Three - 0
UglyDuck - 0
Andresvmb - 0

Okay, so let's say gunsmith has two innos. Then with their claim, we would get to a lim pool of 6 and 4 confirmed town.

4 - 5 - 1

If we mislim and Andres' shot misses scum, we are in one of two worlds

(Andres kill world)
4 - 3 - 1
(Gunsmith no guilty)
3 - 2 - 1
2 - 1 - 1
50/50 MELO

(Gunsmith kill world)
3 - 4 - 1
(If Andres misses another shot and mislim)
2 - 2 - 1
1 - 1 - 1
50/50 MELO

okay, so if gunsmith has two innos and outs we are guaranteed to win assuming we can agree on ONE person that can't be scum.

Now obviously I'd like that person to be me, if gunsmith doesn't have an inno on me already. I'd hope I wouldn't be checked because I don't think I bus both my partners like that, both with power roles, and I'd also hope people are willing to bet the game on me being town. Soo yea, gunsmith should claim here to make this p much autowin. (Please don't tell me you checked JV or Andres or whoever else has died)

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:00 am
by Not_Mafia
I'm the gunsmith, I have innos on Aaron and Ythan

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:22 am
by Ythan
Yooooo

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:11 am
by Almost50
In post 1059, Three wrote:
In post 1053, Aaron wrote:So scum thought that gunsmith was more worth their time than vigilante? I guess that sort of makes sense given gunsmith guilties them. I'm trying to think about if the shot says anything about the last scum member. At first I thought it was a poor shot since it was much more clear that Andres was town than JacksonVirgo but now that I understand it, I'm not entirely sure if that means scum is bad.

It's good Andres is still here and I would imagine he didn't shoot last night. It doesn't make sense to shoot someone who claimed pr even if they were really scummy.
This would imply the final scum isn't afraid of getting shot. Which I think is five people? Dwlee, A50, UglyDuck, NM, and myself. Aaron, StD, and the Ythans are the top candidates for execution from what I understand.

I've misread Dwlee once before but they also weren't trying as hard as they have been here. If they're a deep wolf then they hard bussed both of their partners who had much better PRs. I could see an argument that maybe the Kyo wagon was the most optimal time to bus, but why bus Alice? They could've easily coasted by with the Kyo wagon alone, and there were enough suspicious slots that Alice had a good chance of surviving for at least a couple rounds.

Honestly, Dwlee is the only town read I feel confident about. I feel good about A50 as well but it's not as strong a read, I'll have to reread his ISO but he's never my first choice for elimination today. UglyDuck and NM are both players I've gone back and forth on so I wouldn't be against pressuring there.

VOTE: UglyDuck
UD was the first vote on Kyouko. Not voting that.

RCEnigma - 4: Save The Dragons, Andresvmb, Ythan, ILUVYTHAN

Andres is confirmed. I'll vote in the other 3

AliceK - 6: Andresvmb, Dwlee, Three, Save The Dragons, UglyDuck, N_M, Aaron

Now remove STD. That leaves me with the Yathan twins.

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:12 am
by Almost50
Ythan & ILY were both not voting for the Alice execution