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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:26 am

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In post 697, butterchurn wrote:I don't play like that
but is that true? You and Jeff voted Yeezy 24 hours and you didn't wait. What's the difference?

I voted Jeff at day start b/c he's obvious scum (and why you don't think that makes me think you are scum with him.) You expressed interest in voting Owl b/c thats who you think is scum (b/c he is!) I said I'd join you and then you blasted me for trying to leave this 1v1. Like you can't have it both ways. I mean now you are saying lets do Jeff but earlier you didn't
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:27 am

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In post 699, Nero Cain wrote:I hammered Jeff after 4 days, we had all discussed and everyone had checked in. No one said anything about your not voting Scorp.

but I wasn't voting to get reactions


don't really buy it
If you mean hammering Scorp, not Jeff, there was plenty of discussion that still could have been had, but I don't think it was a bad hammer, just not a choice that I would have made. And what? You just said something about me not voting Scorp in , which I was responding to. Do you mean prior to that, and if so, what's the relevance of that?
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:34 am

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yes, I meant that I hammed Scorp. Deadline only lasts a week, day 3 had gone on for 4 days, and practically everyone wanted scorp dead. It was just stalling and avoiding the inevitable . Yes disscussion is good but when a day drags it can cause apathy.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:35 am

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In post 700, Nero Cain wrote:but is that true? You and Jeff voted Yeezy 24 hours and you didn't wait. What's the difference?
The difference between pushing in a wagon/hammering and being the first vote on a wagon should be obvious to you. One brings us closer to the end of the Day or directly brings it about, and the other does not. Voting early in ELo is also significantly different, because if you're town and vote town, the game ends.
In post 700, Nero Cain wrote:I voted Jeff at day start b/c he's obvious scum (and why you don't think that makes me think you are scum with him.) You expressed interest in voting Owl b/c thats who you think is scum (b/c he is!) I said I'd join you and then you blasted me for trying to leave this 1v1. Like you can't have it both ways. I mean now you are saying lets do Jeff but earlier you didn't
I didn't blast you at all, I thought it was odd behavior from you, and mentioned how my perceived likelihood of teams had changed as a result, but was still open to a switch. And no, earlier I was also willing to vote Jeff, and expected that I would be voting either Jeff or you. I thought Jeff was more suspicious than you (and said so), but wanted to wait to see how he responded to some questions I had for him. He mostly ignored them.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:36 am

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In post 702, Nero Cain wrote:yes, I meant that I hammed Scorp. Deadline only lasts a week, day 3 had gone on for 4 days, and practically everyone wanted scorp dead. It was just stalling and avoiding the inevitable . Yes disscussion is good but when a day drags it can cause apathy.
I think that's a reasonable and understandable position to have. Personally I think more discussion could have been valuable and that's why I didn't vote yet, but like I said, I think that could just be a difference in playstyle and priorities.
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:09 pm

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In post 674, Ahri wrote:they say you cant have a full town GY

I say watch me.

VOTE: Hella Jeff
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:14 pm

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In post 703, butterchurn wrote:I didn't blast you at all, I thought it was odd behavior from you, and mentioned how my perceived likelihood of teams had changed as a result, but was still open to a switch. And no, earlier I was also willing to vote Jeff, and expected that I would be voting either Jeff or you. I thought Jeff was more suspicious than you (and said so), but wanted to wait to see how he responded to some questions I had for him. He mostly ignored them.
that was because of time, but i'll continue to do so because my slot is going to get annihilated in the coming hours, there's no way that ahri's going to unvote before then
i'm VT
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:22 pm

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I CC
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:02 am

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Oh Ahri you should unvote please while I catch up
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:05 am

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Votecount 4.2

6 zer - Taco Hemingway





Hella Jeff
(2): Nero Cain, Ahri
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Not Voting
(4): butterchurn, geraintm, Klick, Not_Mafia

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate


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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:05 am

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this game is a chore
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:08 am

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a snail paced chore
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:26 am

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like holy shit, I should get hazard pay or something.

scum is nearly fucking impossible to kill this game.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:27 am

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or at least a free trip to poland
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:46 am

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ahri and geraintm are being prodded
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:44 am

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Quiet Owl
, I want to know more about why you suspected Dwlee originally with the result you got on him. When you got 'no gun', what exactly went through your head? Lead me through the exact thought process that led to you doing what you did with the claim.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:01 am

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Owl is now Not_Mafia, so I'm guessing he won't know the thought process.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:10 am

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Oops, ty, missed that.
With everything I've read around the situation I'm inclined to believe QO was town who genuinely thought they'd caught scum in Dwlee. I also think their role fits well with mine - I'm curious to see what the other claims are (and if we've not all claimed by now then I'd like that to happen).
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:23 am

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Nero's Page 22 is really damn good
I completely buy that he wouldn't be tryharding this position as scum lol
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:26 am

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Ok, I'm sorry for not posting more.

I was sorta waiting on Owl's night result which never came, and now we have to get it from Not Mafia so who knows if we ever shall. I ain't voting anywhere until NM tells us because it should narrow down the choices considerably.

NM means you'll get a good read on me at least.

Will go through posts now and reply as best I can
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:28 am

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I'm like 99% sold on Jeff being thr vote now, I cannot see easily how the game isn't over otherwise, consider my vote there
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:30 am

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In post 702, Nero Cain wrote:yes, I meant that I hammed Scorp. Deadline only lasts a week, day 3 had gone on for 4 days, and practically everyone wanted scorp dead. It was just stalling and avoiding the inevitable . Yes disscussion is good but when a day drags it can cause apathy.
Apathy has killed the game for me....and I do realise I am fully part of that
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:31 am

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Though needing 2 players replaced as the game reaches its conclusion really hasn't helped either
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:34 am

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Looking at nervous post 693 as the logical starting point for me, except 2 of the pieces get swapped around. I am usually a betting man in these situations and I know where my last vote is likely to go. One player feels like they are doing their best to solve this and others aren't and just trying to deflect when caught. But NM needs to come along quick
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:00 am

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In post 693, Nero Cain wrote:barring some big brain play where butter and Ger are scum together and he's distancing from him they are different factions meaning 2 of the 3 scum are in jeff and owl wich makes sense via play.
I think you possibly jumped the gun on this butter/geraintm read? My impression of this day phase so far is that there isn't any good reason butter and gera couldn't be buddies
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