Mini 2014: Succinct Mafia (Day Five)

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Post Post #400  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:39 am

In post 378, MathBlade wrote:
In post 372, havingfitz wrote:Math...why is fuzzy scum aside from meta?

Fuzzy...why aren't you doing anything? ffs. Who's scum. Who are you inclined to vote?


Because Fuzzy is blatantly not hunting and when he does try to post something it comes out as obvious bullshit.

^^^

Y'all. Just do an ISO of Fuzzy. He only posts to fend off his wagon. Not once does he make a post to do any sort of probing elsewhere in the game. There are two viable counterwagons that he could even comment on, but doesn't. He offers lukewarm reads of the people on his wagon, and even then, he didn't offer any read on me until his last post after I pointed out the contradiction in his previous post. And about this, he says:

In post 394, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Otter seems like trying way to hard to find contradiction. Part of me feels like he is scum trying to lynch me. I guess he could be town just scum hunting badly


Which is it? How is this statement supposed to be helpful to the town? A townie should at this point say, 'hey, if people are trying to lynch me, I should show them why X is a better lynch.' Instead, he's just trying to divert suspicion.

He's not being a team player. I feel pretty confident he's scum and I don't see a better candidate for today.

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Post Post #401  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:55 am

Otter
Ok..... I kinda of misread what you said.......However there is no contradictions in my statements. If I made a mistake I would of corrected it. I am general am lynchbait. When I am not than you should prob worry. In general I try harder whan I am scum as have only lost one maybe two game as scum and are very proud of my scum record/ . i am usually laid back as town. Maybe I worded it badly. prob did...all I was asking was Math to consider that my play was lynchbaity which is how I normally play as.

well since I am one of the leading lynch candidate of course I am defending off attacks/ . As I said I am being a bit lazy. However lazyness is not equal to scum. Honestly I have not seen any of your post that come close to proving Im scum.
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No I have considered it as well though I want to look trough the game to see if I notice anything wierd or off

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Post Post #402  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:02 am

Eevee I get a null read on Pine. He spends the earlier part of the game townhunting and didn't raise concerns for me. I wasn't expecting to see him switch to scumhunting so abruptly.

The biggest problem I have with Pine's recent line of thinking is assuming that Fitz and Eevee are probably town simply because they are counterwagons. Why couldn't there be wagons on 2 scum at once? It's not likely, but it might help explain why the wagons are having a hard time taking off, no?

Pedit: Of course town will defend themselves, but by helping the rest of the town see who the better lynch is. Not a once have you commented on anything else in the game. That's not just laziness. Lazy town would at least offer some reads to be a team player. You're not being a team player, and that's super scummy.

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Post Post #403  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:12 am

In post 391, havingfitz wrote:
In post 378, MathBlade wrote:Because Fuzzy is blatantly not hunting and when he does try to post something it comes out as obvious bullshit.

He doesn't do this as town?


His potato gambit is different has more words
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=73835&user_select%5B%5D=22365

In protomen blitz Fuzzy voluntarily gives reads. Here he does if pushed.
In protomen blitz Fuzzy doesn’t contradict himself here he does.
In protomen blitz he was very “wait for a flip” “don’t try to outguess the mod”
This game has none of that.
Pretty much if Fuzzy has reads then he’s more likely town. If he doesn’t have reads he’s scum. He’s started peppering them in now but it’s not the same.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Post Post #404  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:00 pm

In post 363, Pine wrote:If Fuzzy were Town, he'd be lynched by now.

In post 367, ArcAngel9 wrote:If fuzzy flips or Eeve flips town, there has to be at least one scum in each of their wagons.


TheFuzzyLogic99 - 4 (LuckyOtter, MathBlade, Pine, Kokichi Oma)
EeveeLution Army - 3 (SirCakez, Dunnstral, havingfitz)

These are both crap VCA.
In post 370, MathBlade wrote:@Cakez you think the game is apathetic and needs a flip, join us on Fuzzy.

I'm getting tempted honestly. He's finally bringing content to the table now but it seems like it's only because he's gonna get lynched.
In post 397, EeveeLution Army wrote:Am i the only one that thinks pine is scum ?

I do! His recent wagon and flip assumptions were awful.

My reads are not really changing overall..

Also heads up guys I'm gonna have to replace out Thursday next week. Leaving for the wilds of summer camp and all. I hope we can lynch someone before that <.<
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Post Post #405  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:04 pm

Come on over. This wagon sorely needs cakez:)
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Post Post #406  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:41 pm

Im not voting fuzzy and im starting to suspect otter for shallowness

Not being a team player or even being complete shit at the game doesn't mean fuzzy is scum

Its just sounding like you're pushing a PL now

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Post Post #407  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:56 pm

and before the unavoidable "why not suspect math for the same"; i know math is moonlogicky and stubborn, which is why im hardly bothering trying to correct him

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Post Post #408  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:11 pm

In post 365, Pine wrote:In fact, I'm guessing one scum each on either CW.

Fitz is a CW, so he's prob Town. Wis is Town this game.

{Fuzzy, Dunn, Mom}?


Did you not just say I was scum?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.

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Post Post #409  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:16 pm

In post 408, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 365, Pine wrote:In fact, I'm guessing one scum each on either CW.

Fitz is a CW, so he's prob Town. Wis is Town this game.

{Fuzzy, Dunn, Mom}?


Did you not just say I was scum?

It was a lazy, eyerolling kind of comment on your play style more than a read.

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Post Post #410  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:23 pm

Pine also said I was town a page prior.

I feel like he's purposefully tugging at people to see what happens

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Post Post #411  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:24 pm

In post 410, Momrangal wrote:Pine also said I was town a page prior.

I feel like he's purposefully tugging at people to see what happens

Obviously.

Thanks for blowing up my spot :mad:

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Post Post #412  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:30 pm

Back to Fitz.

He really didn't do more than insult people this game, and hasn't offered any kind of content, or conversation.

Also, to supposedly be scum reading me, I'm "bad " even though I'm scummy. Not only did he do this to me but to wisdom who is someone else he was scum reading.

And in calling us bad he is talking about our reads. He also never pushed any kind of case on wisdom. He just called him bad which straight up discredits him who has a history of accurate reads

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Post Post #413  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:37 pm

In post 406, Wisdom wrote:Im not voting fuzzy and im starting to suspect otter for shallowness

Not being a team player or even being complete shit at the game doesn't mean fuzzy is scum

Its just sounding like you're pushing a PL now


...I am not pushing policy.

It’s a meta read and a He ain’t town read. You’re shading me instead of my points. A very typical Wisdom scum move.

Wisdom who are your lock town or may the mod kill me as I stand reads?
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Post Post #414  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:39 pm

In post 412, Momrangal wrote:Back to Fitz.

He really didn't do more than insult people this game, and hasn't offered any kind of content, or conversation.

Also, to supposedly be scum reading me, I'm "bad " even though I'm scummy. Not only did he do this to me but to wisdom who is someone else he was scum reading.

And in calling us bad he is talking about our reads. He also never pushed any kind of case on wisdom. He just called him bad which straight up discredits him who has a history of accurate reads


Gamblers Fallacy present.

Just because someone is right in a prior game doesn’t make them right here
Just because someone is wrong in a prior game doesn’t make them wrong here.

I have a history of being scum with or in a game with the majority of you.

This does not make me scum.

I know how scum!Wisdom operates I know how fuzzy scum operate.

The only one I could be potentially wrong on is Otter.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Post Post #415  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:48 pm

I know how scum wisdom!operates. I have Hydrad with wisdom as scum and town

I am far more intimate with him than you probably will ever be and I'm not sold on him this game

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Post Post #416  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:49 pm

In post 415, Momrangal wrote:I am far more intimate with him than you probably will ever be

...hot?

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Post Post #417  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:52 pm

I should... Probably choose my words more carefully.


The point is, Fitz just called him bad and nothing else. Everyone he attacks he just devalues their play regardless of their actual skill.

Also, what's present here is unlike either town and scum wisdom. He can't be read as one normally would read him

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Post Post #418  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:06 pm

A votecount was requested.
Generating.
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Post Post #419  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:10 pm

In post 418, mastina wrote:A votecount was requested.
Generating.

False.

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Post Post #420  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:11 pm

VotecountTheFuzzyLogic99 - 4 (LuckyOtter, MathBlade, Pine, Kokichi Oma)
EeveeLution Army - 3 (SirCakez, Dunnstral, havingfitz)
havingfitz - 2 (Momrangal, Wisdom)
Wisdom - 1 (Hiraki)
Momrangal - 1 (havingfitz)
Hiraki - 1 (ArcAngel9)
Pine - 1 (EeveeLution Army)

Not Voting - 1 (TheFuzzyLogic99)

7 to lynch.
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Post Post #421  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:13 pm

In post 419, Pine wrote:
In post 418, mastina wrote:A votecount was requested. Generating.
False.
<<< Not false; a VC was requested and I was generating it. Generating isn't instantaneous; it is given within 24 hours, as per rules. >>>
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Post Post #422  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:15 pm

Booooooooo

I propose a vote of no confidence in Mastina!

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Post Post #423  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:45 pm

I'm believing in the system here.

Unvote, vote: Eeveelution
If I call you a she, and you're actually a he. Don't make a fit about it.

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Post Post #424  (ISO)  » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:46 pm

Actually, I can feel pretty good with my vote here after one read of Eevee's ISO LOL
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