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Post Post #1050  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:48 am

In post 957, catboi wrote:
In post 925, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:@CB why are you voting me since I recall our reads being very similar? So I don’t get it?

I'm having trouble finding valid suspects.

In post 939, Chara wrote:Titus, i understand why Gamma voted Nancy there, but i'm not sure why you did.

re: jjh, i don't have the Booneytoons context but i did wonder if jjh's vote was left on Vax from an early distancing attempt, and then he failed to get momentum on anyone else because he lacked the time. when he did confirm he thought Vax was scum, it was near deadline.
i don't know how likely it is, it'd mean a misplay by scum jjh if anything, not really a plot. straightforward thinking says they're not scum together.

Vax seemed legitimately salted that people were voting him and not jjh. Don't think I'd consider a vote on him today or tomorrow.



Hmmmm..... Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑)

VOTE: Titus


What happened to your Mistyx scumread from yesterday?

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Post Post #1051  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:50 am

In post 495, catboi wrote:going purely from memory:

mistyx - scum
titus - town
vaxkiller - scum
chara - gut town
wellermanbob - town
raya36 - townlean
somke and mirrors - gut town

red - scumlean
perfume - nothing
jjh - vague scumlean
infinity zero - townlean
twins akari and mara - actually felt like her response to my vote was kind of town?

Probably need to read back to flesh some of these out, but decided to just go off the top of my head here to start.


So, at what point did I become a “suspect”?

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Post Post #1052  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:51 am

In post 1, Alisae wrote:>Flips are based on plurality. This means the day will not end when someone reaches a majority. Whoever has the most votes at the end of teh day dies.
"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle

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Post Post #1053  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:52 am

Please vote who you think is scum independent of whether you would like to hammer them or not.

We have 3 days and 16 hours and cannot hammer
"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle

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Post Post #1054  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:57 am

In post 581, Mistyx wrote:chara feels like a slot i'm going to have as light town at eod and then come into tomorrow scumreading

no this is not a read

In post 630, Mistyx wrote:
In post 621, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 557, Mistyx wrote:
In post 216, Mistyx wrote:
In post 212, Chara wrote:Misty, if it wasn't clear i was asking why you wanted to vote catboi.

the response questioning vax felt kinda like it was just there to be there and wasn't actually solving, plus nothing else in their ISO had stuck out to me by that point

here


He was trying to get Vax to clarify his Titus’ read. That’s how it looked to me.

i thought it wasn't really a worthwhile question

In post 656, Mistyx wrote:
In post 650, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 581, Mistyx wrote:chara feels like a slot i'm going to have as light town at eod and then come into tomorrow scumreading

no this is not a read


Back to not liking your posting. :/

good for you

In post 772, Mistyx wrote:
In post 727, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 720, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 709, Alisae wrote: VOTE COUNT 1 . 12
    Vaxkiller ------------ 6 ( jjh927, Catboi, Raya36, unwnd, Infinity Zero, Twins Akari and Mara )
    Twins Akari and Mara - 3 ( Chara, Titus, Wellermanbob )
    Chara ---------------- 1 ( Mistyx )
    jjh927 --------------- 1 ( Vaxkiller )
    Mistyx --------------- 1 ( Smoke and Mirrors )
    Wellermanbob --------- 1 ( Red )
    Catboi --------------- 0 ( No One )
    Red ------------------ 0 ( No One )
    Titus ---------------- 0 ( No One )
    Infinity Zero -------- 0 ( No One )
    Raya36 --------------- 0 ( No One )
    unwnd ---------------- 0 ( No One )
    Smoke and Mirrors ---- 0 ( No One )


    Not Voting ----------- 0 ( No One )


Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-11 20:01:00)


Vax is at E -1.


And Mistyx and Vax have the worst votes.

and yet no comment on the actual earlier jjh/chara wagons

okay

In post 852, Mistyx wrote:
In post 850, Infinity Zero wrote:Mistyx, why did you neve vote vax?

-Inf

that's not really a question i can directly answer

In post 861, Mistyx wrote:Titus
Catboi
Raya36
Smoke and Mirrors
Red
Jjh927
Infinity Zero
Twins Akari and Mara

removed self, dead players, chara/wellerman

removing titus/catboi/jjh/twins gives us

raya/s&m/red/infinity

i like that list tbh

In post 871, Mistyx wrote:i think like

infinity > raya > red > s&m is how i'd order my list from earlier from best to worst

but im probably omgusing at least a little


VOTE: Mistyx

If this flips town, you can mislim me.

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Post Post #1055  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:03 am

In post 994, Titus wrote:*shrug*

Same thing just happened in Open 802. Caught scum, people said I was wrong. Said scum won.

It's probably just jjh and the twins.

After I flip town, jjh will go after gamma.
The twins will lurk.


I think I may have possibly voted Titus because she really hurt my feelings and I try not to let that influence my vote.

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Post Post #1056  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:04 am

In post 1055, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 994, Titus wrote:*shrug*

Same thing just happened in Open 802. Caught scum, people said I was wrong. Said scum won.

It's probably just jjh and the twins.

After I flip town, jjh will go after gamma.
The twins will lurk.


I think I may have possibly voted Titus because she really hurt my feelings and I try not to let that influence my vote.


IZ is super obvious town btw. So, this makes me question my Titus scumread.

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Post Post #1057  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:34 am

In post 1052, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1, Alisae wrote:>Flips are based on plurality. This means the day will not end when someone reaches a majority. Whoever has the most votes at the end of teh day dies.

In post 1053, jjh927 wrote:Please vote who you think is scum independent of whether you would like to hammer them or not.

We have 3 days and 16 hours and cannot hammer



This is really good to know.
Thing with Nancy is we just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it.

(I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~ the worst

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Post Post #1058  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:35 am

In post 1057, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1052, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1, Alisae wrote:>Flips are based on plurality. This means the day will not end when someone reaches a majority. Whoever has the most votes at the end of teh day dies.

In post 1053, jjh927 wrote:Please vote who you think is scum independent of whether you would like to hammer them or not.

We have 3 days and 16 hours and cannot hammer



This is really good to know.

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Post Post #1059  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:44 am

In post 904, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:He’d probably deathtunel me if it weren’t for Gamma.


Please stop this, my personal reasons to TR you are in the thread and you're holding a grudge

-Inf

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Post Post #1060  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:46 am

In post 891, Chara wrote:Oblivious doesn't do what Vax said in the games either, which is what i was referring to. i expected that nothing would be 1 to 1 but i found it odd when my own role pm is accurate to the games. i was vague about it because i wanted to see if Vax would correct, i think.


In the games, oblivious makes a pokemon immune to attraction, and attraction probably isn't in this game.

-Inf

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Post Post #1061  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:04 am

In post 1050, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:What happened to your Mistyx scumread from yesterday?

I thought she might be less likely to be teamed with Vax based on a dim memory of him voting her and vague gut feelings.

In post 1051, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:So, at what point did I become a “suspect”?
I cleared some people off the flip and reread you and changed my mind, then changed it again

UNVOTE:

People need to calm down.

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Post Post #1062  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:18 am

I find it interesting no one is talking about red

I still feel like chara is >rand scum but I have nothing to really back this up
Yeah it could've said that it was oblivious to be "cleared" but if it ended up having to claim before bob does then it's kinda screwed

VOTE: mistyx gamma SRs this slot and she's in my PoE. Titus feels town from the last few pages. Old meta on titus says her making sense is a scumtell, I'm not sure whether it still holds up but somehow I doubt it completely flipped.

S&M super obvious town

-Inf

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Post Post #1063  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:39 am

In post 895, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:I was looking for the 5 recent scumgames you referenced and couldn’t find them. Would you mind please linking/quoting them for me.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Hydra-Mash (hydra as Kyukon)
https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 7&t=113277
https://www.mafiacolosseum.com/threads/ ... -over.525/
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... 1%21%21%29 (alted as Rue)

i may have exaggerated slightly when i said 5 but it felt like it
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Post Post #1064  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:50 am

In post 1062, Infinity Zero wrote:I find it interesting no one is talking about red

I still feel like chara is >rand scum but I have nothing to really back this up
Yeah it could've said that it was oblivious to be "cleared" but if it ended up having to claim before bob does then it's kinda screwed

VOTE: mistyx gamma SRs this slot and she's in my PoE. Titus feels town from the last few pages. Old meta on titus says her making sense is a scumtell, I'm not sure whether it still holds up but somehow I doubt it completely flipped.

S&M super obvious town

-Inf

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Post Post #1065  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:10 am

In post 1043, Twins Akari and Mara wrote:Chara was a scum read yesterday but now, I'm unsure of that read. The posts chara makes today gives them some town points that may be genuine.

I don't remember much about the interaction between Raya and vax, but I think it was practically non-existent

I moved the momentum to Vax... and because of me moving the momentum there and Unwnd townreading and joining me Vax got eliminated...
In post 608, Raya36 wrote:I'm not happy with the jj or twins wagon. I'd be willing to go back to cat but I don't feel as bad as I did before with this slot.

I'm not sure if this is still a viable wagon or not but I'm not liking Vax. I didn't like the Titus vote. Titus has felt town to me and it felt opportunistic as well. The unvoting for simply posting more is bad too. He next places his vote on Infinity, another slot I light townread and another opportunistic vote. Later he voted the twins as the 5th vote which is again opportunistic. He also gave no reasoning for this vote and seemingly hadn't been caught up. When he switches votes again later he says he doesn't even understand the twins wagon but he'd still be willing to go back to it? The it's Mistyx without any reasoning which again already had a wagon forming and opportunistic. He mentions how little time we have then proceeds with fluffy posts. Then joins the jj wagon, who I light townread, without any reasoning given again.

VOTE: Vax

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Post Post #1066  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:10 am

VOTE: Red
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Post Post #1067  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:11 am

In post 1044, Twins Akari and Mara wrote:Its way past maras bed time and it's probably affecting her memory.

Mara just did a quick iso on Raya and they did talk about the evil vax man but it was very super late.

Mara is also confused how they go from being not ok with bullying mara to bullying to the point where mara is forced to leave

Is the bullying thing referring to me?

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Post Post #1068  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:12 am

In post 1045, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 849, Raya36 wrote:I'm thinking at least 1 scum is in the Twins, Mistyx, Chara, Red


Well, you already know who I think that is.

I’m actually not sure Titus would be mean to me as scum. Her reaction to me - albeit really hurtful - is giving me doubts.

It’s still of course possible and she was really upset with me in House Party so probably not a good reason for tr her.

Can you quickly go over why Mistyx is Vax's partner?

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Post Post #1069  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:14 am

In post 1048, Twins Akari and Mara wrote:Post Raya pushes mara shortly after titus pushes mara

Ignore my question a couple posts ago. You answer here. This is PoE assuming 1 scum was on the wagon.

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Post Post #1070  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:16 am

In post 1054, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 581, Mistyx wrote:chara feels like a slot i'm going to have as light town at eod and then come into tomorrow scumreading

no this is not a read

In post 630, Mistyx wrote:
In post 621, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 557, Mistyx wrote:
In post 216, Mistyx wrote:
In post 212, Chara wrote:Misty, if it wasn't clear i was asking why you wanted to vote catboi.

the response questioning vax felt kinda like it was just there to be there and wasn't actually solving, plus nothing else in their ISO had stuck out to me by that point

here


He was trying to get Vax to clarify his Titus’ read. That’s how it looked to me.

i thought it wasn't really a worthwhile question

In post 656, Mistyx wrote:
In post 650, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 581, Mistyx wrote:chara feels like a slot i'm going to have as light town at eod and then come into tomorrow scumreading

no this is not a read


Back to not liking your posting. :/

good for you

In post 772, Mistyx wrote:
In post 727, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 720, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 709, Alisae wrote: VOTE COUNT 1 . 12
    Vaxkiller ------------ 6 ( jjh927, Catboi, Raya36, unwnd, Infinity Zero, Twins Akari and Mara )
    Twins Akari and Mara - 3 ( Chara, Titus, Wellermanbob )
    Chara ---------------- 1 ( Mistyx )
    jjh927 --------------- 1 ( Vaxkiller )
    Mistyx --------------- 1 ( Smoke and Mirrors )
    Wellermanbob --------- 1 ( Red )
    Catboi --------------- 0 ( No One )
    Red ------------------ 0 ( No One )
    Titus ---------------- 0 ( No One )
    Infinity Zero -------- 0 ( No One )
    Raya36 --------------- 0 ( No One )
    unwnd ---------------- 0 ( No One )
    Smoke and Mirrors ---- 0 ( No One )


    Not Voting ----------- 0 ( No One )


Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-11 20:01:00)


Vax is at E -1.


And Mistyx and Vax have the worst votes.

and yet no comment on the actual earlier jjh/chara wagons

okay

In post 852, Mistyx wrote:
In post 850, Infinity Zero wrote:Mistyx, why did you neve vote vax?

-Inf

that's not really a question i can directly answer

In post 861, Mistyx wrote:Titus
Catboi
Raya36
Smoke and Mirrors
Red
Jjh927
Infinity Zero
Twins Akari and Mara

removed self, dead players, chara/wellerman

removing titus/catboi/jjh/twins gives us

raya/s&m/red/infinity

i like that list tbh

In post 871, Mistyx wrote:i think like

infinity > raya > red > s&m is how i'd order my list from earlier from best to worst

but im probably omgusing at least a little


VOTE: Mistyx

If this flips town, you can mislim me.

852 in that series of posts doesn't make sense to me from scum!Mistyx

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Post Post #1071  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:18 am

In post 1066, Mistyx wrote:VOTE: Red

Why?

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Post Post #1072  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:27 am

In post 1071, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1066, Mistyx wrote:VOTE: Red

Why?

everyone seems to be okay with the slot dying but no one is actively pushing it

makes it >rand scum imo
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Post Post #1073  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:41 am

I'm not ok with the slot dying yet but I want more participation from the slot to make that decision

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Post Post #1074  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:05 am

Wow I'm gonna have to go and reread day 1 for evolving reads none of this today content feels relevant lmao

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