Mini Theme 2212: Ircher's Grand Idea Mafia: SCUM WIN


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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:04 am

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GG peeps <3

I am slightly salty at being run up by my teammates, but eh :P we won.

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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:21 am

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if anyone wants to help me design an actually-good GIM-based themed large setup lmk <3
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:26 am

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Tbf, I am running after CultD3 "All The Ideas Mafia" which is literally every single idea thread, in one game.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:26 am

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In post 751, Maruchan wrote:if anyone wants to help me design an actually-good GIM-based themed large setup lmk <3
1- Give everyone a strongman-strongwilled vig shot.
2- Make everyone a Random Redirector/Deflector
3- Make everyone DEATH PROOF

Enjoy! :lol:

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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:52 am

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i dont think i like setups like these!
but im glad i could make my pr useful
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:39 pm

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I was hoping to be able to claim some sort of bulletproof but I think the one I chose worked better anyway
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:58 pm

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In post 754, Psyche wrote:i dont think i like setups like these!
but im glad i could make my pr useful
yeah I probably would not play another one any time soon because it sucks nailing a bunch of scum and still losing or getting a really crappy role
but I enjoyed this game and don't regret playing!
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:17 pm

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In post 751, Maruchan wrote:if anyone wants to help me design an actually-good GIM-based themed large setup lmk <3
Prein.
In post 752, Korina wrote:Tbf, I am running after CultD3 "All The Ideas Mafia" which is literally every single idea thread, in one game.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 am

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In post 756, SirCakez wrote:
In post 754, Psyche wrote:i dont think i like setups like these!
but im glad i could make my pr useful
yeah I probably would not play another one any time soon because it sucks nailing a bunch of scum and still losing or getting a really crappy role
but I enjoyed this game and don't regret playing!
That's the beauty of "original" GIMs .. you get to choose YOUR Role, mot submit someone else's. I even like it more when I get to choose my alignment as well.. (Great Idea, Greater Idea .. etc)

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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:03 am

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Well played all! Ircher and Enchant, wow your scum game is on point. I'm going to be seriously re-evaluating my reads on you in future games.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:24 am

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In post 758, Almost50 wrote:
In post 756, SirCakez wrote:
In post 754, Psyche wrote:i dont think i like setups like these!
but im glad i could make my pr useful
yeah I probably would not play another one any time soon because it sucks nailing a bunch of scum and still losing or getting a really crappy role
but I enjoyed this game and don't regret playing!
That's the beauty of "original" GIMs .. you get to choose YOUR Role, mot submit someone else's. I even like it more when I get to choose my alignment as well.. (Great Idea, Greater Idea .. etc)
original GIMs are even worse. The actual setup composition as detailed in the first post of GIM is that the mod rolls an X sided die where X is the number of posts currently in the thread (at like 10 thousand or so i think), and you get the role corresponding to what was rolled.

GIM uPick is what you described.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:34 am

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How about a upick a person, and your role is rolled from all of their posts they made in the GIM thread. (if the user has summitted less than x posts, have them submit multiple people)
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:10 am

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:O THATS A GREAT IDEA
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:16 am

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It may come as no surprise.... /prein whoever runs it xD
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:59 am

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In post 760, Maruchan wrote:
In post 758, Almost50 wrote:
In post 756, SirCakez wrote:
In post 754, Psyche wrote:i dont think i like setups like these!
but im glad i could make my pr useful
yeah I probably would not play another one any time soon because it sucks nailing a bunch of scum and still losing or getting a really crappy role
but I enjoyed this game and don't regret playing!
That's the beauty of "original" GIMs .. you get to choose YOUR Role, mot submit someone else's. I even like it more when I get to choose my alignment as well.. (Great Idea, Greater Idea .. etc)
original GIMs are even worse. The actual setup composition as detailed in the first post of GIM is that the mod rolls an X sided die where X is the number of posts currently in the thread (at like 10 thousand or so i think), and you get the role corresponding to what was rolled.

GIM uPick is what you described.
I was thinking (and even said) Great Idea & Greater Idea. That's what I meant by "original". The games with fixed limited decks to draw from

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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:55 pm

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In post 764, Almost50 wrote:
In post 760, Maruchan wrote:
In post 758, Almost50 wrote:
In post 756, SirCakez wrote:
In post 754, Psyche wrote:i dont think i like setups like these!
but im glad i could make my pr useful
yeah I probably would not play another one any time soon because it sucks nailing a bunch of scum and still losing or getting a really crappy role
but I enjoyed this game and don't regret playing!
That's the beauty of "original" GIMs .. you get to choose YOUR Role, mot submit someone else's. I even like it more when I get to choose my alignment as well.. (Great Idea, Greater Idea .. etc)
original GIMs are even worse. The actual setup composition as detailed in the first post of GIM is that the mod rolls an X sided die where X is the number of posts currently in the thread (at like 10 thousand or so i think), and you get the role corresponding to what was rolled.

GIM uPick is what you described.
I was thinking (and even said) Great Idea & Greater Idea. That's what I meant by "original". The games with fixed limited decks to draw from
well, in the original Great Idea Mafia, it's only 145 roles vice thousands, but the roles are still distributed via randomization (specifically the wiki states to use random.org).

The first setup to begin any level of user-pick was Greater, where they randomize 146 roles, assign each player two, player picks one of the two randoms, and the discards are shown publicly.

Greatest goes one step further, where the mod randomizes the 146 roles in greater idea, assigns 3 randomized cards to each player, and the players *must* keep two cards, one for their alignment, and a different one for their role. the third is publicly discarded.


All GIM-esque variants designed have setup creation involving mod-randomization. It's only mods who willingly choose to forgo the default ruleset and modify their creation to be a uPick where that is changed. Most *Grand* Idea variants ran on site are typically uPick, and why most people are so conditioned to thinking Grand Idea Mafia games are inherently uPick, even when setup info and the name specifically state otherwise.

However, even Grand Idea Mafia was never intended in it's initial conceptualization to be a uPick.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:59 am

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Yaaaah! We won! :)
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:01 am

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So I was right on Lustice/Guillotina. :lol:

Don’t come at me bro, I catch em everytime! :cool: To bad my vote meant nothing lol. I had fun though.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:01 am

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And thanks for killing me Almost50. You rightfully put me out of my misery. :]
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:28 am

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In post 767, ItalianoVD wrote:So I was right on Lustice/Guillotina. :lol:

Don’t come at me bro, I catch em everytime! :cool: To bad my vote meant nothing lol. I had fun though.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:28 am

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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:23 am

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The scumsidedness though.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:20 am

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In post 771, T3 wrote:The scumsidedness though.
these usually are quite scumsided just by the setup design, i usually have to re-roll 3-5 times just to get more town than scum and it still oft starts in d1 lylo

Then when you add in that the *players* pick the roles, i'm routinely surprised how many scum heavy-hitters I get compared to weak townies.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:46 pm

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Honestly with as many vigs as town had, I actually think the setup was somewhat decent for town. Better than I've seen in other setups.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:50 pm

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In post 773, Ircher wrote:Honestly with as many vigs as town had, I actually think the setup was somewhat decent for town. Better than I've seen in other setups.
oh yes if the desperado had shot when he was considering it this could've gone more townsided for sure.

or if the loverizer had been targeted by you before being killed by someone else on the scum team the next night
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