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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:14 am

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So to explain why I checked Mastina etc. I remembered that her and house felt linked during the game and these posts read as a chainsaw defense.
In post 204, House wrote:
In post 199, T3 wrote:
In post 195, House wrote:I'm going to get my groove on, today. Let's start with:

VOTE: T3

Their posts in regards to mastina do not feel at all genuine.
Did you roll scum?
I wish. At least I wouldn't feel so lost in this setup.

Why are you being so obtuse about mastina after the Townstumps game?
In post 205, House wrote:
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In post 76, T3 wrote:
In post 55, mastina wrote:
In post 6, Dunnstral wrote:I see mason in my card pack and will be picking it tonight
If any other town player sees mason at some point this game with me alive, they should take it
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In post 10, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Bingle
Bingle amirite
Nah, I turned around. You’re left. It’s been a while since I looked at the deck, but I don’t remember any particular tricks as important. Dunn should probs not pick mason (we might can turn it into a parity cop), but I need to think on this. See y’all tomorrow.
Town.
In post 12, House wrote:VOTE: cyrus62
In post 40, cyrus62 wrote: Still trying to set up mis elim.
In post 45, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Taly
Town?
In post 5, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: flea
Scum? (Honestly hard to tell tho.)

Vote: Infinity 324
Fabricated a read on a naked RVS votw.
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In post 83, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 76, T3 wrote:Fabricated a read on a naked RVS votw.
Mastina does this
As town or as scum?


mastina just fabricated a whole reads list early d1 in Townstumps as town, so if you were in that game I don't buy these posts as genuine for a second.
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In post 207, T3 wrote:
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That doesn't change the fact that she made a fabricated readlist.
viewtopic.php?p=12817855#p12817855

This post was on the third page of d1.

You're being disingenuous.
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:16 am

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In post 290, House wrote:
In post 277, Almost50 wrote:Hey guys, I am stuck here. The good news is I managed to early pocket Bingle it seems. That Doctor crumb that he turned into something totally different was hilarious :lol:

The bad news is I still hate rolling scum in this particular game a and don't think I am up to the challenge.

If you can't carry me, feel free to bus already. I may fight back a little, but the earlier you do it the more towncred you get from my flip.
You can't possibly be scum, man.

I don't see you in the PT.
This is bold if A50 is scum
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:18 am

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In post 402, House wrote:
In post 384, Dwlee99 wrote:That he is just ignoring the thread since doing it is certainly not good™ fmpov.
I know I've been defending his slot over that weird post, but I have to agree that his absence since then doesn't give me great vibes.
Yea A50 town here I think
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:19 am

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In post 640, House wrote:
In post 623, Infinity 324 wrote:Though tbh I don't think it's fair to say I haven't looked for scum, I've pushed t3, a50, and house
I wouldn't call a flaccid, unexplained vote with no questioning or accusations much of a push.
And this whole interaction is ++town infinity
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:20 am

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In post 736, House wrote:
In post 731, NDMath wrote:Someone remind me why we're making house answer every question three times.
A little exaggerated, but it does seem to have happened a couple times, yeah.
I don't like this for NDMath but I'm aware we have a soft? inno so I'm kinda shelving it
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:22 am

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In post 896, House wrote:
In post 895, cyrus62 wrote:Dw if I die tonight look after town and don't let the thread go steal
Asking a favor of one of your PoE?
This reminds me I need to honor our fallen soldier cyrus62
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:23 am

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In post 904, House wrote:Dwlee's sticky vote on A50 looks terribad.

If we're determined to not eliminate T3 today, I'll have to

VOTE: Norwee

tie the wagons up.

I refuse to vote with my top scumread, and I'm not a fan of how Norwe doesn't seem to even be trying to sort me.
This vote is explicitly tying the wagon so I think this points to town!norwee
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:25 am

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In post 906, House wrote:
In post 762, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Just saying that i’ve misread House pretty badly in the past so i don’t want to make that mistake again.
Like, I get this and all, but... knowing that you misread me in the past why aren't you poking at me?
In post 907, House wrote:
In post 905, Dwlee99 wrote:House you know t3 was just sitting on norwee too right? Why do you think I'm not on either of these wagons?
Hopping on but back off before elimination is a pretty basic distancing tactic.
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In post 908, Dwlee99 wrote:His hop on looked opportunistic though.
Time spent on Norwe was, like, 25 hours.

Then he hops off to fuel the counter wagon?

Nah, fam.
In post 911, House wrote:
In post 910, Dwlee99 wrote:How much do you scum read norwee here? I'm okay with t3, you seem okay with t3. I still don't get why people are so averse to my a50 read but I can go with t3 instead of voting a null (Mastina) or townlean (norwee).
I'd like nothing more than to see T3 limmed, today.

His red flip will have me locked onto Norwe until one of us dies though, because T3's hop on/off looks like an attempt to derail Norwe.
In post 913, House wrote:VOTE: T3

Choo choo!
He does hop off but I think it's cause of my questioning
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:26 am

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In post 1002, House wrote:
In post 932, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 909, House wrote:
In post 908, Dwlee99 wrote:His hop on looked opportunistic though.
Time spent on Norwe was, like, 25 hours.

Then he hops off to fuel the counter wagon?

Nah, fam.
Pretty sure 25 hours before i was like the only person voting Mastina. Why would supposed scum!T3 that’s my ‘teammate’ do an risky bus that was apparently ‘planned distancing’ for no real reason there?
If you're alive to ask the question, you weren't bussed.

Considering the pressure you're getting, I can see why your team would want to distance themselves from you as scum.
Further stuff that makes me think norwee is mislim bait
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:27 am

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In post 1160, House wrote:
In post 1159, T3 wrote:I propose a counter-counter-wagon.
VOTE: NDMATH
What, why?
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:27 am

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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:28 am

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In post 1217, House wrote:
In post 1215, Bingle wrote:Full accountability for scum roles picked post n1 unless scum passes to scum and the disproportionate amount of utility of power in towns hands.

Also stop rolefishing and scumhunt.
:roll:

It's hardly rolefishing when the game is role madness.

EVERYBODY has a PR. I'm not in here asking people WHAT their roles ARE.

Chill with the LAMIST bullshit.
Bingie town in addition to my thoughts on his slot in general.
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:30 am

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In post 1674, House wrote:
In post 1595, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah titus being scum here makes the least sense to me. The only thing I can think is that bingle is scum because he would do a silly -EV gambit. Math doesn't strike me as the type to even think about something like that.
Bingle? Scum?

What even is this? Bingle has been the solviest player in the game.
And this is after the guilty which makes me think he was attempting to WIFOM buddy interactions and I think bingle is just town here
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:35 am

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Btw what happened with the mason cards?
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:12 am

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In post 1812, Dwlee99 wrote:And this is after the guilty which makes me think he was attempting to WIFOM buddy interactions and I think bingle is just town here
It's wifom but consistent. Bingle was largely townread, which is why I had a problem with NDMath investigating Bingle and the type.
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:58 pm

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In post 1788, Bingle wrote:Dwlee99 - Gut, terrible action choice likely wasn't scum trying to fake the action.
I'll play devil's advocate here (I hope Dwlee doesn't take it personal as I would have said the exact same thing if it was anyone else): WHY is it Townie to WASTE the check on someone who already claimed to have taken a killing role? Would you expect Scum!Dwlee to: (a) Guilty a partner? (b) Clear a Townie? (c) Fake an inno on a partner? (d) Fake a guilty on a Townie? (e) Claim to have taken the ability and not use it? (f) Pass the ability to someone else??

Give me ONE of these over targeting the claimed "killer" as a better option.

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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:04 pm

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In post 1813, Dwlee99 wrote:Btw what happened with the mason cards?
Only Dunn claimed to have received one, and it wasn't in the pack he passed to me, so Dunn took it and there has not been another (or there has not been another that was announced)

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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:29 pm

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I did not know or forgot Mastina claimed a killing role. I just remembered thinking that Mastina and House had scummy interactions and should be checked.
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:39 pm

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I got a job from one of my bigger clients. I still need to keep it but it's great. It may effect my posting rate.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:18 pm

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In post 1817, Dwlee99 wrote:I did not know or forgot Mastina claimed a killing role. I just remembered thinking that Mastina and House had scummy interactions and should be checked.
Do you understand where I'm coming from though? Bingle makes it look like your bad choice in AI, while I am saying it's NAI. I accept that Town!you could've made that mistake, but I also think Scum!you would have deliberately done the exact same thing, and since I don't "know" which it is I am calling in NAI.

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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:20 pm

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That's probably fair. I think I'd be a little more attentive as scum to not be stupid but maybe I'd do it on purpose and try to play it off like an accident?
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:40 pm

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If you want to discuss it in depth, look at the choices I provided. Can you find any other choice that I failed to consider? If not, don't you agree that "claiming to have checked mastina" is indeed the best choice for scum here? I mean, hypothetically you could have checked just about anyone else but claimed to have targeted mastina because she already claimed having grabbed a killing role. Scum!you in this case had the perfect result to announce (because it clears no one and guilties no one. It doesn't even bring any new info to Town's attention. While you would have made sure you know whether "your true target" has grabbed a killing role or not.

So, at worst you targeted mastina to get rid of that GS check without bringing in any new info, and at best it was also used to make sure "someone" doesn't have an investigative/killing role.

You do realize Cop-like roles return positive results to a GS, right? If you are aware of it, I find it even more bizarre that you should ask mastina to claim here, even if you forgot she claimed taking a killing role. Like, for all you know she could've grabbed Vig, GS, Vengeful, Detective or Rolecop (not quite sure in the Rolecop, but to me it is a "Cop-like" role and should appear to be carrying a gun).

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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:43 pm

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In post 1815, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1788, Bingle wrote:Dwlee99 - Gut, terrible action choice likely wasn't scum trying to fake the action.
I'll play devil's advocate here (I hope Dwlee doesn't take it personal as I would have said the exact same thing if it was anyone else): WHY is it Townie to WASTE the check on someone who already claimed to have taken a killing role? Would you expect Scum!Dwlee to: (a) Guilty a partner? (b) Clear a Townie? (c) Fake an inno on a partner? (d) Fake a guilty on a Townie? (e) Claim to have taken the ability and not use it? (f) Pass the ability to someone else??

Give me ONE of these over targeting the claimed "killer" as a better option.
In scumdwlees shoes I probably would have chosen Clear Townie -> Clear partner -> Fake being blocked -> target mastina -> fake guilty -> guilty partner.

The way dwlee went about the investigate makes me think this isn’t a faked miss of mastina’s claim and I think that’s towny. I’m aware that I might be prong, but that is my thought there.
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:28 pm

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I knew that cops/gunsmiths/vigs turn up as having a gun, I didn't know vengefuls, detectives, or role cops did (although I guess that should have been obvious because it has the word "cop"). I hadn't actually looked at the gunsmith wiki page before Mastina mentioned vengeful returns having a gun.
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:46 pm

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In post 1813, Dwlee99 wrote:Btw what happened with the mason cards?
I took it, nobody else is in there
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