Mini Theme 2244: 3d20 uRoll – Somewhere In New Jersey [End]

[Dragon of the West]

Ugh, ignore the 105 quote. I always fuck up quotes on mobile

[Dragon of the West]

Skimreading the first 3d20 showed that someone also claimed cult on D1 there. No-one immediately reacted to that and I wanted to know why.

You didn't get your own roll in the first 3d20. They claimed rolling cult, not getting cult as their role

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: Cyrus
I don't know how to say this except Cyrus is scum here.

@Cyrus - who is/are your scum partner(s)?

[Dragon of the West]

Also Owl's overexplaining to bingle and defensiveness there seems scummy

[Dwlee99]

I like this confidence from DotW. I think we both picked up on something similar, although me on an arguably subconscious level

[Dragon of the West]

like i think i already messed up posting i think me hiding this game would have been best.

??????

Like I know I'm guilty of skimming Cyrus's posts but how did NO ONE at least ask about this?

Cyrus what is this post

[cyrus62]

like i think i already messed up posting i think me hiding this game would have been best.

??????

Like I know I'm guilty of skimming Cyrus's posts but how did NO ONE at least ask about this?

Cyrus what is this post

Your silly I was hoping no one askd about it becuse . I can not answer this.

[Dragon of the West]

If you can't answer that can you answer who your scum partners are please?

[cyrus62]

If you can't answer that can you answer who your scum partners are please?

I'm not so sure does the rule claiming scum with someone else only work if you are scum? I mean if you can claim scum with someone else when your not scum I will name my partner. "wink wink"

[cyrus62]

Come on dude the joke only works if you use your head.

[cyrus62]

Who is your scum partner west? See can any one real answer that queston since claiming scum by your self is fine claiming scum with someone else isn't.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I have some thoughts but will have to read some if Loft's games to confirm

This feels noncommittal
VOTE: RegRider

[cyrus62]

Btw town watch who votes me becuse intent to claim at e1 @encant you better not hammer until I do. Then I want to vote either dragon of the west or dw off .

[ssbm_Kyouko]

So… I have a method by which we could maybe break the game but it is both unfun and at the very least against the spirit of the rules.

Thoughts?

How can this be done? You said "maybe" - does it depend on what people actually rolled, or are you unsure if it will work and it is independent of rolls?

[Dwlee99]

Cyrus do you think dotw and I are scum together

[cyrus62]

like i think i already messed up posting i think me hiding this game would have been best.

??????

Like I know I'm guilty of skimming Cyrus's posts but how did NO ONE at least ask about this?

Cyrus what is this post

Like use your head do I hide as scum or town. No. As scum I try to mingle or prod to see if I can get town to fight. As town I'm always going 100% most of the time unless I'm bored . So what role could I get that would make me think it is best to hide? Keep in mind I have towns best interest at heart. I think your role fishing VOTE: dragon of the west when I voted dw it was to try to get him to post. I real feel dotw is scum here looking for ity bity things to push to get elmnation . You state you 100% disagree on keeping the cult claim alive past day1 but you vote me. The guy throwing out ideas to scum hunt . Do I do that as scum. No I disencouage it why would I say mass claim d3 as scum huh. I'm calling you out you are not town. You are either cult or alien or ww or scum but you are not town and I won't stop voting you this game as a result till proven other wise.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I guess there are probably a lot of scum here so getting as many pings as I am isn't necessarily an indicator anything is majorly off

[cyrus62]

Cyrus do you think dotw and I are scum together

Yes or on diffent scum teams.

[Enchant]

@encant

Ok carus69

[Bingle]

So… I have a method by which we could maybe break the game but it is both unfun and at the very least against the spirit of the rules.

Thoughts?

How can this be done? You said "maybe" - does it depend on what people actually rolled, or are you unsure if it will work and it is independent of rolls?

It does depend on the rolls (there are theoretical worlds where it nets us no information in fact) and would explicitly not work with me or anyone I was partnered with. In fact, prior knowledge of how it works completely negates any advantage it might bring.

Were you aware I just called out loftwing as potential scum because it felt like they were fishing for ways to mitigate the strategy?

[Bingle]

like i think i already messed up posting i think me hiding this game would have been best.

??????

Like I know I'm guilty of skimming Cyrus's posts but how did NO ONE at least ask about this?

Cyrus what is this post

I was ignoring it as a PR softclaim, tbh.

[Bingle]

But you haven't realy played ball I. Am here trying to find methods to find scum easier but

you seem to some how found scum in 38 post

.

This seems more like an argument that I HAVE done a significant amount, than the opposite. If your actual complaint is that I'm not engaging with mech ideas I think are bad other than to point out why I think they're bad, I don't really have a solution to that. I'm not going to advocate doing things that I don't see leading to scum eliminations because... Why would I?

How do you feel about my reasons to scumread Loft and/or Owl? Do you agree with the logic? Do you disagree with the logic? Why?

[cyrus62]

But you haven't realy played ball I. Am here trying to find methods to find scum easier but

you seem to some how found scum in 38 post

.

This seems more like an argument that I HAVE done a significant amount, than the opposite. If your actual complaint is that I'm not engaging with mech ideas I think are bad other than to point out why I think they're bad, I don't really have a solution to that. I'm not going to advocate doing things that I don't see leading to scum eliminations because... Why would I?

How do you feel about my reasons to scumread Loft and/or Owl? Do you agree with the logic? Do you disagree with the logic? Why?

i thought you didnt want to vote loft. and owl dose not feel scum like to me. my idea was not so much to lead to scum but to try to understand if there is a cult or not and if so who it is. cult should always be d1 vote.

[Bingle]

After all cook stated jester is non game ending.

I'd actually missed this, but it makes the Jester win trivial.

Jester is the only role that actively wants to be eliminated. Jester is a threat to town if they aren't. (they actively want to be eliminated and don't want to be a threat to scum because that might get them shot. We will have to eliminate them at some point, because if they survive to XLO they will selfvote and cost town the game. Eliminating them while we're low info > eliminating them while we're high info.)

Therefore, any Jesters can claim and get eliminated and we can just move on with the game. With a phase worth of NA results to work with.

[Bingle]

i thought you didnt want to vote loft. and owl dose not feel scum like to me. my idea was not so much to lead to scum but to try to understand if there is a cult or not and if so who it is. cult should always be d1 vote.

Eh. Cult is the single person who is the greatest threat to the traditional scumteams, and won't be intentionally protected by doctors of any faction. Any groupscum worth their salt will kill an obvious cult leader N1 and it's reasonably likely we have at least one RB (as a whole, not even among the town aligned players). If someone is obviously cult, we don't really need to deal with them on D1 as town because they are a bigger threat to groupscum than the townies are.

Compound that with the fact that I don't actually think Loft is a cult leader (but rather was lolcatting) and I didn't want to eliminate them first thing. Given the fact that jester isn't game ending, I'm actually okay with votes on Loft.

Why do you townlean Owl?