Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[CheekyTeeky]

Dwlee what are your top 3 reads, either alignment?

[Dwlee99]

A50 town both
Okay that's as far as I've gotten. I feel like I need to properly reset after game 3 has ended because I still have all the vibes from there stuck in my head

[Radical Rat]

If you seriously believed her jester claim, then you should have been opposed to her lim in game B. Now if you only said you thought she was 3P it would make more sense but why would anyone believing the jester claim think she was a good vote in B? This makes no sense.

However, if you thought she was 3P (but not jester) in game B, then that is actually why you should have not voting her in game B because why would you vote out someone that you think isn’t scum?

If she just claimed regular boring Jester? Yeah, I'd probably let her live until we got close to MeLo. But she claimed to be bulletproof, so very little chance of her being nightkilled, barring a scum strongman or something, AND having a compulsive vig and JK, and I assumed the multitasking part meant she could pick different targets for each, which would have been killing and disrupting mostly Town, but maybe some scum if we were lucky.

That's also why I was inclined to believe it. In addition to overcomplication seeming thematically appropriate, the fact that she was claiming something so immensely anti-Town that couldn't be otherwise dealt with justified the Jester claim, whereas a normal Jester probably wouldn't be inclined to claim. Further, if such a broken role existed AND ended the game on death... I would have a great deal many questions for whoever reviewed that setup.


Your point about always letting 3Ps live though is just wrong. Excepting Survivor, which is situational, most 3Ps are functionally scum, and should be dealt with accordingly.

[Radical Rat]

Also, I DID think she was Scum in Game A, because it would have made no sense for a real Roleblocker to claim D1, and even less sense for a Tracker to claim Roleblocker D1. And we couldn't really only eliminate there without skipping an elimination, which is an awful idea.

If I had a strong townread on her in Game 1, perhaps I would have been more hesitant. But I didn't, so I wasn't.

[Dwlee99]

RR town

[Amy Dunne]

It is not a chainsaw it is My Heel that will collapse both of your throats unless I recognize your transparency.

[Amy Dunne]

If you seriously believed her jester claim, then you should have been opposed to her lim in game B. Now if you only said you thought she was 3P it would make more sense but why would anyone believing the jester claim think she was a good vote in B? This makes no sense.

However, if you thought she was 3P (but not jester) in game B, then that is actually why you should have not voting her in game B because why would you vote out someone that you think isn’t scum?

If she just claimed regular boring Jester? Yeah, I'd probably let her live until we got close to MeLo. But she claimed to be bulletproof, so very little chance of her being nightkilled, barring a scum strongman or something, AND having a compulsive vig and JK, and I assumed the multitasking part meant she could pick different targets for each, which would have been killing and disrupting mostly Town, but maybe some scum if we were lucky.

That's also why I was inclined to believe it. In addition to overcomplication seeming thematically appropriate, the fact that she was claiming something so immensely anti-Town that couldn't be otherwise dealt with justified the Jester claim, whereas a normal Jester probably wouldn't be inclined to claim. Further, if such a broken role existed AND ended the game on death... I would have a great deal many questions for whoever reviewed that setup.


Your point about always letting 3Ps live though is just wrong. Excepting Survivor, which is situational, most 3Ps are functionally scum, and should be dealt with accordingly.

I wouldn’t let a non-Survivor 3p get anywhere near elo and if you felt that Meg was the scummiest slot then fine but yeah I don’t agree that any non-mafia lim is optimal this early other than SK. I thought the claim in B was so over the top with so many different actions and modifiers preceding the jester part, that I thought it had to be at least in part a troll. In contrast I thought she did intend to take the simple roleblocker claim to be taken seriously. The nature of both claims was only part of the problem, it’s also the combined claim of the two plus the timing of them.

[Amy Dunne]

A50 town both
Okay that's as far as I've gotten. I feel like I need to properly reset after game 3 has ended because I still have all the vibes from there stuck in my head

RR town

Do you tr RR in both games because you didn’t specify like you did with A50?

[Dunnstral]

it is optimal for town to Lim them

How?

[Lady Chloe]

RCEnigma, where are you?

[Lady Chloe]

Dwlee what are your top 3 reads, either alignment?

What are

your

top 3 reads, either alignment?

[Lady Chloe]

Would anyone delight in a nice conversation by the fire? I prepared apple crumble.

[Dwlee99]

it is optimal for town to Lim them

How?

Are you scum

I already answered this though: jesters are self-aligned and count against town majority and reduce days to ELO because jester will self-vote and lose it for us. They also could soak night actions or if we don't lim them we could out a power role

[Lady Chloe]

Dwlee, would you like to ask me anything?

[Dwlee99]

how is your day going

[Dwlee99]

A50 town both
Okay that's as far as I've gotten. I feel like I need to properly reset after game 3 has ended because I still have all the vibes from there stuck in my head

RR town

Do you tr RR in both games because you didn’t specify like you did with A50?

Oh I missed this yes

[Lady Chloe]

how is your day going

Quite fine. Trying to murder scoundrels, doll. Want to assist?

[CheekyTeeky]

My top 3 reads are T3, RR, House town in remaining games. T3 and RR have flipped and changed meta since, waiting on house to return to solidify. By play A50, Amy, mastina are my strongest town reads.

The way Lady has approached Dwlee when they claim to want both of us dead is pretty telling Imo.

[Lady Chloe]

Hahahahahahaha

[CheekyTeeky]

What's funny?

[Dwlee99]

how is your day going

Quite fine. Trying to murder scoundrels, doll. Want to assist?

Yea sure

[Lady Chloe]

What's funny?

how is your day going

Quite fine. Trying to murder scoundrels, doll. Want to assist?

Yea sure

I'm trying not to confbias but I genuinely disapprove of how both of you have taken to me the past two pages.

Cheeky, you don't flesh out at all why I am approaching the thread and thinking the way that I do, you simply shade me with vague justification. It reads like I have some form of correct judgment on you that you don't want to bring attention to.

Dwlee, you have done what I would believe to be avoiding me in plain sight. I've declared that you and someone you fought with are scum somewhere, but you ignore that. If you're actually interested in assisting me, start by telling me how you are not admitting guilt here.

[Dwlee99]

Oh I missed that

I'm not scum, cheeky could be sure

[Almost50]

I call a vote! All those in favour of Amy's definition of not aligned say I do or forever hold your peace.

I do. Generally speaking, even 3P are "self-aligned", so "not aligned" is obviously meant to say "not informed"

[Almost50]

That -of course- doesn't say anything about it being true or false. It's just how I interpret the expression.