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Post Post #1725  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:30 pm

In post 1723, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1721, Radical Rat wrote:I think his flip is likely to be more informative than the others for Game 1.


Explain?


I'm afraid that if I were to explain that now, you could manipulate your play accordingly.

I will say that it's not anything strong enough to make me INSIST on limming you first, just a preference over the other two for now.

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Post Post #1726  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:49 pm

In post 1714, Amy Dunne wrote:My what? What “chainsaw”? You keep saying you’re town but have yet to explain your RR vote.

You're chainsawing on behalf of your buddy Rat.
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Post Post #1727  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:04 pm

In post 1724, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1718, Lady Chloe wrote:I consider Dunnstral claiming the Demon Lord a scumclaim.


Explain this too


If memory serves, the Demon Lord vote did not land on MegAzumarill until shortly after they flipped Mafia in Game 3.

I do not know why you would pose that vote on MegAzumarill in Game 2 if the cause behind their posting could've been exonerated with a little more time.

Since MegAzumarill was town in both games, I distrust your intentions.

Is my scrutiny misplaced?
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Post Post #1728  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:06 pm

Dear Dunnstrsal,

You could've simply believed MegAzumarill was strongly likely to be Mafia in 2 games.

Or

Their Mafia flip was your way of confirming their town alignment elsewhere.
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Post Post #1729  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:07 pm

Also, unrelated

Your "I have no clue what to do in Game A" is in poor form, darling.
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Post Post #1730  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:10 pm

I seek your guidance once again, Wise Rat of Magicka!

In post 1725, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1723, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1721, Radical Rat wrote:I think his flip is likely to be more informative than the others for Game 1.


Explain?


I'm afraid that if I were to explain that now, you could manipulate your play accordingly.

I will say that it's not anything strong enough to make me INSIST on limming you first, just a preference over the other two for now.


Who among House and Ircher are town in Game 1? What about Game 2?
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Post Post #1731  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:10 pm

Miss Amy Dunne, it's been quite awhile since we've spoken candidly! How does the thread greet you?
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Post Post #1732  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:15 pm

Cheeky, please do not trick me. I want you to be pure in both games.
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Post Post #1733  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:57 pm

Vote Count Normal.2.02Radical Rat (E-4): , ,
T3 (E-4): ,
Dunnstral (E-4): , ,
House (E-5): ,
Dwlee99 (E-5): ,
Ircher (E-5): ,
CheekyTeeky (E-6):
mastina (E-6):
Amy Dunne (E-6):
Almost50 (E-6):
Lady Chloe (E-6):

No Elim (0):


Not Voting (2): , mastina

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to murder/death/kill or 6 to choose not to.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-12-19 06:00:00).


Vote Count Theme.2.01Dunnstral (E-5): , ,
Radical Rat (E-5): ,,
House (E-6): ,
Ircher (E-6): ,
Dwlee99 (E-6): Demon Lord, ,
CheekyTeeky (E-7):
[b]T3 (E-7):

RCEnigma (E-7):
mastina (E-7):
Amy Dunne (E-7):
Almost50 (E-7):
Lady Chloe (E-7):

No Elim (0):


Not Voting (5): , RCEnigma, Dunnstral, Dwlee99, mastina

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to murder/death/kill or 6 to choose not to.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-12-12 18:30:00).
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Post Post #1734  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:19 pm

In post 1728, Lady Chloe wrote:Dear Dunnstrsal,

You could've simply believed MegAzumarill was strongly likely to be Mafia in 2 games.

Or

Their Mafia flip was your way of confirming their town alignment elsewhere.


They claimed non-town in game b. I also used the vote so there was a possibility of eliminating meg in only game b.

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Post Post #1735  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:22 pm

In post 1728, Lady Chloe wrote:Or

Their Mafia flip was your way of confirming their town alignment elsewhere.


This doesn't make sense, both because it's untrue and it presumes that I don't know their alignment (so I'm not scum after all?)

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Post Post #1736  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:37 pm

*pops in*
VOTE: dwlee
*pops out*
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Post Post #1737  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:38 pm

Hey House, why are you just popping in and popping out?
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Post Post #1738  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:53 pm

In post 1734, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1728, Lady Chloe wrote:Dear Dunnstrsal,

You could've simply believed MegAzumarill was strongly likely to be Mafia in 2 games.

Or

Their Mafia flip was your way of confirming their town alignment elsewhere.


They claimed non-town in game b. I also used the vote so there was a possibility of eliminating meg in only game b.

In post 1735, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1728, Lady Chloe wrote:Or

Their Mafia flip was your way of confirming their town alignment elsewhere.


This doesn't make sense, both because it's untrue and it presumes that I don't know their alignment (so I'm not scum after all?)


Once again, we are at the impass where I do not know why someone readily believed a jester claim.
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Post Post #1739  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:55 pm

I'm rather exhausted from the apparent notion that I'm incoherent.

I implore people to initiate conversation, otherwise, I do not come with olive branches at this point in time.
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Post Post #1740  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:58 pm

Cheeky, does your wagon analysis require you to be on the wagon?

Please feel free to refrain from answering this question if you feel answering is TMI.
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Post Post #1741  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:03 pm

I didn't say I believed the jester claim

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Post Post #1742  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:05 pm

In post 1735, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1728, Lady Chloe wrote:Or

Their Mafia flip was your way of confirming their town alignment elsewhere.


This doesn't make sense, both because it's untrue and it presumes that I don't know their alignment (so I'm not scum after all?)


Wait nevermind, perhaps I am incoherent. You couldn't confirm anything even if you were town/mafia or mafia/mafia.

I've never been this confused in a game, apologies.

Pedit

Dunnstral wrote:I didn't say I believed the jester claim


Then why did you vote them MegAzumarill?
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Post Post #1743  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:07 pm

In post 1709, Amy Dunne wrote:Mastina’s solve is amazing, afterall she totally nailed scum!Meg in A and B.

Wait


This feels out of place. What did mastina say that specifically prompted this?
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Post Post #1744  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:23 pm

In post 1730, Lady Chloe wrote:I seek your guidance once again, Wise Rat of Magicka!

In post 1725, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1723, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1721, Radical Rat wrote:I think his flip is likely to be more informative than the others for Game 1.


Explain?


I'm afraid that if I were to explain that now, you could manipulate your play accordingly.

I will say that it's not anything strong enough to make me INSIST on limming you first, just a preference over the other two for now.


Who among House and Ircher are town in Game 1? What about Game 2?


For Game 1 I think there's a solid chance they're both scum. If I knew one of them HAD to be Town, I would probably say House, but that's just from playing the numbers on account of him looking worse in 2 and triple scum being very unlikely, but it is still very possible so I'm not giving him a free townread while he acts scummy just because of the odds.

In Game 2, House is the only other one on the wagon who even CAN be scum I think. It's also possible there isn't another scum besides Dwlee, but I don't see why they wouldn't go for an easy mislim that gets excused by Meg's anti-Town claim. Only reason we're really even looking at the wagon is because of Cheeky's claim, which Scum couldn't have known about beforehand. Off the wagon, I'm still leaning Dunn there, because I don't think I believe the Demon Lord is a Town role, and he should have claimed earlier if it were. A very good slot for a cop check, if one is available.

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Post Post #1745  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:31 pm

In post 1667, House wrote:
In post 1666, mastina wrote:Oh yeah dealing with this bullshit is also among the things I didn't really want to have to deal with. (it's not a "mastina must die", it's not quite "3p = acceptable loss", it's not any of the others I said previously, but it's among the things that any 3p claim will entail.)

I always call for the death of any 3p because they count against town majority.

You know this.


If you believe mastina's claim, particularly the bit about the wincon, then she pretty clearly would count TOWARDS a Town majority, not against. She needs scum eliminated just as much as we do, unless she's lying which should become pretty apparent later.

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Post Post #1746  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:58 pm

In post 1744, Radical Rat wrote:In Game 2, House is the only other one on the wagon who even CAN be scum I think. It's also possible there isn't another scum besides Dwlee, but I don't see why they wouldn't go for an easy mislim that gets excused by Meg's anti-Town claim. Only reason we're really even looking at the wagon is because of Cheeky's claim, which Scum couldn't have known about beforehand. Off the wagon, I'm still leaning Dunn there, because I don't think I believe the Demon Lord is a Town role, and he should have claimed earlier if it were. A very good slot for a cop check, if one is available.


I was going to ask why Dunn couldn't be scum in game 2 from your perspective but you're voting so it at least serves the purpose of a scumread there...I guess.

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Post Post #1747  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:02 pm

Because it would mean house is also scum and all three pushed Meg. I didn't pose that as a question but I'm answering myself lol.

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Post Post #1748  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:27 pm

I do think Dunn can be scum in game 2, but he (officially) wasn't on the Meg wagon. Assuming mastina isn't lying about being third party, and Cheeky isn't lying about her claim, House is the only other possible scum on the wagon.

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Post Post #1749  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:02 pm

In post 1742, Lady Chloe wrote:
In post 1735, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1728, Lady Chloe wrote:Or

Their Mafia flip was your way of confirming their town alignment elsewhere.


This doesn't make sense, both because it's untrue and it presumes that I don't know their alignment (so I'm not scum after all?)


Wait nevermind, perhaps I am incoherent. You couldn't confirm anything even if you were town/mafia or mafia/mafia.

I've never been this confused in a game, apologies.

Pedit

Dunnstral wrote:I didn't say I believed the jester claim


Then why did you vote them MegAzumarill?


I didn't like the fake claims

And it gave the chance to vote them out in just game b, but we ended up boting them out in both anyways

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