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[Masquerader Blue]

Why should Purple care if Red trusts Olive at that point? Purple had stated they were unclear on the alignment of everyone except for Blue and Olive at the time that post was made. One could posit that by saying “you” in that statement, Purple presumes Red town that needs to not trust Purple’s “scum read.”

because this is a dance game and the way you eliminate your scumreads in this phase of the game is to convince nobody to pair with them so that they get flipped.

like it literally does not matter what red's alignment or any other player's alignment is.

if purple scumreads olive

then purple is trying to eliminate olive

and the way purple eliminates olive is to convince every other player in the game to not pair with olive.

whether the other players are town or scum is irrelevant to purple's goal of eliminating olive.

saying that purple needs to townread red before convincing red to not pair with olive is just wrong and shows you haven't really thought about how to eliminate players.

[Masquerader Teal]

Offer Hand to Masquerader Red
Offer Hand to Masquerader Green
Offer Hand to Masquerader Blue
Offer Hand to Masquerader Yellow
Offer Hand to Masquerader Cyan
Offer Hand to Masquerader Magenta
Offer Hand to Masquerader Olive
Offer Hand to Masquerader Purple
Offer Hand to Masquerader Teal

Will try to catch up now but I don't know who's still unpaired. If anyone finds me worth pairing I'd love to continue playing but I understand if I'm the one left out.

[Masquerader Blue]

Unfortunate. I had hoped there was something more.

Why did you ignore Olive's participation in that exchange?

I don't have veru strong reads at all and have very clearly not understood the automaton thing - can someone explain like I'm five?

1. Intruders, per the sample role PM, have an ability called "Automaton."
   Spoiler:

   Automaton

   
   
2. This ability states that if they can correctly identitfy the true identity behind
   both
   of the masqueraders in a pair, the automaton ability will remove their masks.
   Spoiler:

   Furthermore, you must tell it the true identities of both masqueraders in the pair that you want to target in order to successfully wrangle off their masks.

   
   
3. If a masquerader loses their mask, they must leave the masquerade.
   Spoiler:

   Mask - You own a mask, protecting your identity. If you lose it, you'll have to exit the masquerade.

   
   
4. This effectively allows Intruders to eliminate Invitees outside of the standard method during Sessions should they be able to correctly identify both of the players behind the masque in a pair.

Unfortunate. I had hoped there was something more.

Why did you ignore Olive's participation in that exchange?

I don't really have a cut-and-dry feel for Olive's actions so I haven't really spoken on them yet

Alright. Would you speak of their actions now, specifically with regard to that exchange?

Blue, I liked their questions and takes so far on the game. What is your issue with Cyan?

which of these posts do you think is town indicative and why?

[Masquerader Teal]

Teal dropping out looks like intruder who was pushed from the beginning of the game and lost morale over time. It could also be an invitee who lost morale or became sick and ran out of energy, though I consider this alternative explanation less likely. It hasn't escaped my attention that despite their claims to be slow in forming reads, here as the eleventh hour approaches they are even more absent than they were at the beginning. I think teal avoided outting reads and when they did out reads they sounded suspicious. I prefer that teal be left without a partner just to be rid of them.

I was literally sick you turkey slimeball muffin

[Masquerader Cyan]

Why should Purple care if Red trusts Olive at that point? Purple had stated they were unclear on the alignment of everyone except for Blue and Olive at the time that post was made. One could posit that by saying “you” in that statement, Purple presumes Red town that needs to not trust Purple’s “scum read.”

because this is a dance game and the way you eliminate your scumreads in this phase of the game is to convince nobody to pair with them so that they get flipped.

like it literally does not matter what red's alignment or any other player's alignment is.

if purple scumreads olive

then purple is trying to eliminate olive

and the way purple eliminates olive is to convince every other player in the game to not pair with olive.

whether the other players are town or scum is irrelevant to purple's goal of eliminating olive.

saying that purple needs to townread red before convincing red to not pair with olive is just wrong and shows you haven't really thought about how to eliminate players.

With respect, I was explaining how the phrasing could have come across as a perspective slip to someone at the time.

[Datisi]

Music

Reception Count V

Masquerader Green - Masquerader Teal
Masquerader Magenta - Masquerader Teal

Not In A Pair

- Masquerader Green, Masquerader Magenta, Masquerader Teal

formed pairs

Masquerader Purple - Masquerader Olive
Masquerader Yellow - Masquerader Cyan
Masquerader Red - Masquerader Blue

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• As long as both players reciprocate the pairing, the pair will be formed.

The

Reception

concludes in (expired on 2022-10-01 01:00:00).

[Masquerader Teal]

I like the new blue

[Masquerader Blue]

Teal I think you're better off reading Green/Magenta's isos and deciding which one is more townie rather than offering to both.

if there is one mafia among the two of them, you are kind of giving that person a ticket out of this place for free.

[Masquerader Teal]

I don't like green anymore

Rescind offer to dance with green

I think their posts are little empty. I think finding me suspicious after page 1 after blue did as well seems like piggybacking onto something that doesn't actually have substance.

I like Magenta though I am liking their thought process on a couple of things.

If they want to pair that's fine I guess but I think green is more likely of the two to be scum so I'd rather pair with Magenta.

[Masquerader Teal]

Yeah I realized that, my bad

[Masquerader Red]

Indeed. I think their catchup posting so far is, well... fine in form, alarming in content (in particular, the three people they like on page 3 being precisely my current scumpool/sort of the consensus scumpool/the three currently-unpaired individuals, which is unnerving).

well if I'm wrong about my reads it would become obvious when the flips occur no?

Yes, I just wonder how you feel about going so against the grain; your reads list is so starkly against consensus that it feels contrarian, and it makes me curious whether that contrariness is coincidental or intentional (presumably as scum). The read on Green being (presumably, as Yellow implied, though you haven't stated it outright) at least partially meta based is interesting. And I do like the line of posting toward Cyan, there are some good points (the long formal mech post does feel like a scum cliché).

I have mixed feelings on Cyan's responses to Blue on the whole. 211 feels townish to me, it feels earnest and the right amount of defensive. I think it is hard to glean Cyan's internal thought process because they aren't providing a whole lot of justification for where they're coming from most of the time (the main instance of this that I can see is when they agreed with me on the first Blue's "wafflyness" while disagreeing with me on their opening being towny). Cyan's posting reads to me as someone who wants to actively engage with people and to reason with them, and my reading of that right now is that they are an invitee who is trying to work with people, but I wouldn't fault a reading that emphasizes their aiming for agreeability and reasonability as emblematic of valuing appearances over substance.

This is all to say, I think it would be helpful if Cyan could justify some of their reads in more depth, in their own words.

I don't have a strong preference for who gets left out. I don't want whatever pair forms last reaching endgame, essentially irrespective of the left-out masquerader's alignment, and I intend to vote for them first.

[Masquerader Olive]

Why should Purple care if Red trusts Olive at that point? Purple had stated they were unclear on the alignment of everyone except for Blue and Olive at the time that post was made. One could posit that by saying “you” in that statement, Purple presumes Red town that needs to not trust Purple’s “scum read.”

because this is a dance game and the way you eliminate your scumreads in this phase of the game is to convince nobody to pair with them so that they get flipped.

like it literally does not matter what red's alignment or any other player's alignment is.

if purple scumreads olive

then purple is trying to eliminate olive

and the way purple eliminates olive is to convince every other player in the game to not pair with olive.

whether the other players are town or scum is irrelevant to purple's goal of eliminating olive.

saying that purple needs to townread red before convincing red to not pair with olive is just wrong and shows you haven't really thought about how to eliminate players.

Offer Hand to Masquerader Red
Offer Hand to Masquerader Green
Offer Hand to Masquerader Blue
Offer Hand to Masquerader Yellow
Offer Hand to Masquerader Cyan
Offer Hand to Masquerader Magenta
Offer Hand to Masquerader Olive
Offer Hand to Masquerader Purple
Offer Hand to Masquerader Teal

Will try to catch up now but I don't know who's still unpaired. If anyone finds me worth pairing I'd love to continue playing but I understand if I'm the one left out.

Do either of you realize I’m already paired with purple? Cyan and yellow are also paired as is now red and blue?

Only unpaired players are teal, magenta and green.

[Masquerader Olive]

Music

Reception Count V

Masquerader Green - Masquerader Teal
Masquerader Magenta - Masquerader Teal

Not In A Pair

- Masquerader Green, Masquerader Magenta, Masquerader Teal

formed pairs

Masquerader Purple - Masquerader Olive
Masquerader Yellow - Masquerader Cyan
Masquerader Red - Masquerader Blue

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• As long as both players reciprocate the pairing, the pair will be formed.

The

Reception

concludes in (expired on 2022-10-01 01:00:00).

[Masquerader Olive]

Unfortunate. I had hoped there was something more.

Why did you ignore Olive's participation in that exchange?

I don't have veru strong reads at all and have very clearly not understood the automaton thing - can someone explain like I'm five?

1. Intruders, per the sample role PM, have an ability called "Automaton."
   Spoiler:

   Automaton

   
   
2. This ability states that if they can correctly identitfy the true identity behind
   both
   of the masqueraders in a pair, the automaton ability will remove their masks.
   Spoiler:

   Furthermore, you must tell it the true identities of both masqueraders in the pair that you want to target in order to successfully wrangle off their masks.

   
   
3. If a masquerader loses their mask, they must leave the masquerade.
   Spoiler:

   Mask - You own a mask, protecting your identity. If you lose it, you'll have to exit the masquerade.

   
   
4. This effectively allows Intruders to eliminate Invitees outside of the standard method during Sessions should they be able to correctly identify both of the players behind the masque in a pair.

Unfortunate. I had hoped there was something more.

Why did you ignore Olive's participation in that exchange?

I don't really have a cut-and-dry feel for Olive's actions so I haven't really spoken on them yet

Alright. Would you speak of their actions now, specifically with regard to that exchange?

Blue, I liked their questions and takes so far on the game. What is your issue with Cyan?

which of these posts do you think is town indicative and why?

I liked that Cyan was asking Green about their not commenting on my participation and I also liked his explaining why they didn’t think purple slipped. My strongest invitee reads right now are red and purple, which I’ve been pretty consistent on recently. I also don’t understand what your issue is with Cyan?

[Masquerader Olive]

I don't like green anymore

Rescind offer to dance with green

I think their posts are little empty. I think finding me suspicious after page 1 after blue did as well seems like piggybacking onto something that doesn't actually have substance.

I like Magenta though I am liking their thought process on a couple of things.

If they want to pair that's fine I guess but I think green is more likely of the two to be scum so I'd rather pair with Magenta.

You currently have approximately 17 hours to pair with them.

[Masquerader Blue]

Do either of you realize I’m already paired with purple? Cyan and yellow are also paired as is now red and blue?

we are talking about that point in time which is on page two.

[Masquerader Blue]

I liked that Cyan was asking Green about their not commenting on my participation and I also liked his explaining why they didn’t think purple slipped. My strongest invitee reads right now are red and purple, which I’ve been pretty consistent on recently. I also don’t understand what your issue is with Cyan?

I don't understand how either of these points towards town ?

I have made it pretty clear what my issue with Cyan is.

[Masquerader Blue]

Yes, I just wonder how you feel about going so against the grain; your reads list is so starkly against consensus that it feels contrarian, and it makes me curious whether that contrariness is coincidental or intentional (presumably as scum). The read on Green being (presumably, as Yellow implied, though you haven't stated it outright) at least partially meta based is interesting. And I do like the line of posting toward Cyan, there are some good points (the long formal mech post does feel like a scum cliché).

I was not aware of any consensus before I posted my thoughts on player alignments.

Even now that I am fully caught up I don't really think the consensus is very strong in terms of reasoning.

[Masquerader Magenta]

accept teal

It's been a weird few days, I'll read later. I really liked what blue was saying about purples read on others influencing people though, it's really nuanced and thought out.

[Masquerader Green]

whatever
it's plain as day no one actually likes hearing what I have to say
thanks for validating all my worst paranoia, this sucks but I think playing this game was a good choice in the end

also Red sus as fuck for forcing the pairing with Blue despite disagreeing with their reads so much

[Masquerader Teal]

Do either of you realize I’m already paired with purple? Cyan and yellow are also paired as is now red and blue?

Only unpaired players are teal, magenta and green.

Not to be snarky but I think it's pretty obvious from my post I had no idea who was paired up by the way I implied that

[Masquerader Red]

whatever
it's plain as day no one actually likes hearing what I have to say
thanks for validating all my worst paranoia, this sucks but I think playing this game was a good choice in the end

also Red sus as fuck for forcing the pairing with Blue despite disagreeing with their reads so much

I know you're on death's door but heavens, this is slanderous.

I offered to dance with Blue and pointed out that Blue hadn't been prodded.

Blue then got replaced.

Then

Blue espoused reads that I disagreed with, and I returned to the thread to find that the new Blue had accepted my invitation. If you were criticizing me for offering to dance with an afk slot, then sure, but your criticism here is factually inaccurate.

Besides that, I would have offered to Blue even after seeing their reads that were very different from mine because they were by a good margin my strongest townread among those still unpaired at that point, and that matters much more than having agreeable reads.

[Masquerader Green]

I highly encourage accepting red's invitation to pair.

okay no it was purple

[Masquerader Green]

yeah purple, you can go fuck yourself.

[Datisi]

Resolving the phase in a little bit. Reminder that personal attacks (like the above) are not allowed.