Mini 2292: Anything uPick - Game Over!

[Ircher]

I'm a universal miller.
VOTE: Alisae

[Ircher]

I'm a universal miller.
VOTE: Alisae

By universal do you mean that you would come up looking bad regardless of the type of invest? So, a tracker always sees you going to the night kill?

Yes.

[Ircher]

Do you know why your name is blue in the votecount?

Well I believe that this was already pretty obvious in the first few pages. This post could be filler.

VOTE: Pink

Was it? I didn't see the reason.

I'm not that easy to pocket, you have to try harder.

Do you

want

to be pocketed? 'Cause I can do that if you want...

I would like to be pocketed.

[Ircher]

I don't really have too many thoughts on the game so far. I think Wavelength is being a bit nosy, but that's not necessarily scum indicative.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Amici

[Ircher]

has RH9 posted or said anything about this game @other hydra

~STDnabrae

Not really, other than the emoji stuff on page 1. We have talked some in the hydra PT, yes

~b

That's a scum claim.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Wavelength

[Ircher]

VOTE: Wavelength

y

Because they were being nosy earlier...

[Ircher]

Why are you interrogating me on this vote?

[Ircher]

Not claiming ascetic, if that's what you're asking. Not sure why people's actions targeting me failed. Whatever it is, it's not me.

I am trying to think of a world where you are targeted with a rolestop if you are town, and struggling to come up with one.

Like, a town rolestop is should be used like a doctor, and I don't think that it makes sense for a doctor to target you. And I am not sure why a scum rolestop would be on you if you are town either.

This doesn't make sense. With as short as Day 1 was, your night action target might as well be random.

I just stared at a list of roles on Mafia scum, and I guess I can see a couple roles that *could* make sense as having used you as a target.

Not gonna list them all, but I think that if there is a town bus driver that targeted you, they should probably out, since that would mean their other target is likely an unclaimed ascetic.

The others that I saw would either should not claim even if they targeted you, or would be the result of a scum action, so doesn't matter.

This doesn't make sense either. Wouldn't a bus driver action fail on an Ascetic under NAR?

In what world do I spend the night thinking who could be “easy pickings” and I decide “ah yes, kuribo”

Maybe this game? Seems like going after kuribo would be pretty random risk. I don't see this as a good argument against the possibility.

Amici voted for me when they were already destined to be eliminated. It was a survivalistic vote.

this is ridiculous

so Amici voting for you is survivalistic but you quickhammering Amici is what?

I agree with Stephen here.

In context it looked like the day was going to end fast because of LLD's impetu

Nah. If people wanted to drag it out (and they often do), they would have.

do you have an example of a game where you quick hammered someone on d1 barely out of RVS as town

I don't know man I haven't played for 2 years straight I'm trying to settle in again.

Also "quick hammer" is a joke in this case, they already claimed and stated their intentions by voting me.

I agree with this. Let's not spin this as a quickhammer as due process was followed. It was simply done under escalated timelines.

Yeah, if that was a dayvig it was just bad, now there will just even less info to be gained from our slot's green flip

i dunno tho this post does feel forced

like, you know good and well that's not a dayvig so why pretend

Shade

Fine.
We are a JoaT with three abilities.

• a watcher shot
  
• a FlavorCop shot. We can chooce a target an discover their Flavor
  
• a shot of some sort of investigative that discover whether or not the target is "wicked". The PM uses that word, and doesn't clarify further.

~b

But what ARE you?

What's your flavor here?

Chance of taking a stance n°1 after a claim.

We are Gnome Ann.

I want your reads.

Chance of taking a stance n°2 after answering your question (you could've asked for a readlist before, no?)

Either way kuribo that's my stance towards you in a game were I was involved in a 1v1 during D1, please don't make me feel bad for scumreading you.

Uh...................

VOTE: Wavelength

y

Because they were being nosy earlier...

What changed between earlier when you said that you did not know if being nosy was scum indicative?

Nothing. I just feel you should be spending your time on more important things.

@Ircher

Gonna be nosy again.

You said you are a "Universal" Miller. We have a flipped Flavor Cop.

How would a Universal Miller interact with a Flavor Cop Invest?

Zzz... Let me ask again: what is the purpose of this question specifically? The flavor cop is dead now. Do you expect there to be a second one? I don't.

But if you must know, I investigate as "mafia-aligned" to cop-type roles and as visiting all players who died to tracking investigatives. So for a flavor cop, I'd presumably investigate as my flavor. Flavor is likely null anyway; I'm sure SirCakez randomized alignments before developing roles.

I'm not really interested in letting you coast by a miller claim, if you want your miller claim to be treated as an IC you're going to have to work for it

I fully expect to get eliminated before the end of the game. That's just how millers work.

There has not (at least at the time I made that post) been a lot of substance to work with, so yes, my posts have been underwhelming so far. They will likely remain so for the rest of this day phase at least.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Marashu

[Ircher]

I thought you were town reading me earlier Alisae? What changed?

[Ircher]

So you agree that you're scum?

[Ircher]

Well Alisae's solve is clearly You+Marashu+Me. Penguin is in the pool for "what if I'm wromg?" but not really in Alisae's solve, so to me, your post was your guilty conscience speaking.

[Ircher]

Conceding would be disappointing wouldn't it?

[Ircher]

Honestly think Marashu will flip town here. The game state is heavily in favor of such.

[Ircher]

Can we eliminate Wavelength instead?

[Ircher]

Honestly think Marashu will flip town here. The game state is heavily in favor of such.

based off of what???????

The same circumstances as the Amici elimination.

[Ircher]

It's not the suspectee's behavior that concerns me here. It's everyone else. But I forgot momentarily about the role claims, so I'll retract my comment that Marashu flips town here.

We should eliminate Wavelength tomorrow though.

[Ircher]

He spent too much time drawing a full claim from me when he could have let it rest as I'll be eliminated eventually anyway. That was mere busy work.

[Ircher]

Wavelength is obvscum

FTFY.

[Ircher]

You'll waste your shot.

[Ircher]

He spent too much time drawing a full claim from me when he could have let it rest as I'll be eliminated eventually anyway. That was mere busy work.

No sorry you need to give more than just this

This is plenty. We elimmed Amici on way less evidence.

[Ircher]

You'll waste your shot.

no

also Ircher you're not being eliminated.
I'm shooting you tonight

Can a rolestopper rolestop themselves?

probs not

No, I'm serious. You'll waste your shot if you shoot me. Feel free to campaign for my elimination tomorrow.

[Ircher]

Like if you're solve is {Pink Ball, Marashu, Me}, then your optimal play is eliminating Marashu today, killing Pink Ball tonight, and eliminating me tomorrow.

[Ircher]

You'll waste your shot.

no

also Ircher you're not being eliminated.
I'm shooting you tonight

Can a rolestopper rolestop themselves?

probs not

No, I'm serious. You'll waste your shot if you shoot me. Feel free to campaign for my elimination tomorrow.

why

Why? I already told you!

[Ircher]

I'm not a rolestopper.

[Ircher]

You can shoot me tonight then. Just don't complain tomorrow when things don't go how you wanted.

[Ircher]

I'm not being cryptic. I'm being blatantly obvious here.

[Ircher]

Take your shot then.

I like Wavelength + Marashu + Alisae for a solve.

[Ircher]

What happened with gUIltY CoNSCIenCe SpeaKInG

I find your engagement here town indicative. You could instead just stay quiet.

[Ircher]

Why did we let scum get away with this?

[Ircher]

We were just starting to get some interesting discussion in!

[Ircher]

ok go

[Ircher]

No.

[Ircher]

That's almost certainly a third party role.

[Ircher]

What are you

It will literally give you no information for the game whatsoever and make me have way less fun

How would it make it less fun?

[Ircher]

Anyway, my flavor is quality. I basically claimed already but to recap:

I have two abilities. The first is that I'm a miller who shows up as mafia to cops and as visiting players who die each night to tracking investigatives. This is due to being made of questionable materials.

The other ability is that I am a one-shot bulletproof. Despite being questionably sourced, the materials themselves are strong and durable.

[Ircher]

what good does softing bulletproof even do

It was pretty clear that he was trying to get you to aim at PB instead of at him

I should probably rephrase
what good does softing bp do to make him look better

I was trying to help you not waste your shot. It was never about me in the first place. (Also, with a miller claim, I knew for a fact scum weren't ever going to attempt to kill me.)

[Ircher]

what good does softing bulletproof even do

It was pretty clear that he was trying to get you to aim at PB instead of at him

I should probably rephrase
what good does softing bp do to make him look better

I was trying to help you not waste your shot. It was never about me in the first place. (Also, with a miller claim, I knew for a fact scum weren't ever going to attempt to kill me.)

is there a specific reason why you couldn't just say so?

No. I just didn't want to say it outright.

[Ircher]

How do they count for win conditions purposes? Do they wake up in LimLo?

[Ircher]

9-3-1 would make sense for a role madness game.

[Ircher]

I investigate as "mafia-aligned" to

I'm a miller who shows up as mafia to cops and as visiting players who die each night to tracking investigatives.

cop-type roles and as visiting all players who died to tracking investigatives.

It is weird that his miller claim specifies both cop invests and tracking invests if we exist in a game without a cop invest.

Like why would he not be just a tracking invest miller?

I was waiting for all claims to see if we had one hiding anywhere, but no one claimed.

I don't see how that's weird. A miller doesn't necessarily mean the corresponding role is in play.

[Ircher]

I want Kuribo to come back and post more
I want Ircher to post actual thoughts
I want to hear what SAS thinks about other slots that aren't PB

I did. Pink Ball is clearly third party and there's likely two other scum. Maybe you're one of them. That claim is kind of eh.

[Ircher]

I'm still kinda thinking over Wave's claim from a mechanics standpoint, but I'm leaning towards it's a town one.

[Ircher]

Honestly though, y'all should just kill me here. It's the correct move given my claim, and it will help keep y'all focused on finding the actual scum.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Pink Ball

[Ircher]

Congrats town! Thanks for modding Cakez!