Mini 2295 | Star Trek uPick - Fin!

[Rogue]

VOTE: black

Hello my fellow humans.
I’m one half of this hydra.
Also known as Rogue. I’m the pretty one not to be confused with Gambit who’s the handsome devil.

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WHO LET THE DAWGS OUT

WOOOFWOOOFWOOF

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HNNNNNNNNG maf silver

@hebi iirc I saw somewhere you mentioned a townread on LLD. Why?

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Pretty sure it was established I'm a starship infesting snake.

Hello Hebichan. Do you remember me?

Oh no

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I dig.
I like hebi last post
It pings town

~R

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Hebi
What’s your preferred pronouns.

~R

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Got it. So notty was right in text and he corrected me.

I’ll remember that for the future

~R

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Lmao

Ofc you put the purrfect pun knowing it was Mala posting that vs notty.

Nothing, it’s you were a hard player to read in DN. Your early game to this is similar, but because of the emjo.

So I have to actually put effort into sorting you.

~R

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@porkens- unlikely, but not 0%

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WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER

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Don’t be so quick to townread Koki. I was back and forth with Koki on DN mafia and then when Koki flipped scum I was kinda amazed. Although in looking back a reaction made sense coming from scum in a certain play I did.

-R

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I’ve only watched the new ones tbh

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What do you townread from Black on pages one and two?

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I should mention, I've never watched star trek or know anything about it.

I joined because of the playerlist and ffery

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Yeah sorry only been on the site 10 years my b

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Uhhhhh

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Sorry

LLD

Girl

I love you tho

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Our post in 21 was an RSV post.

However, there’s a reason why we haven’t moved our vote because we really haven’t found someone who we are solidly scum reading to the point to move it to a serious vote.

I have at least two players I’m townreading, but I’m keeping them close to my chest right now.

Right now for the most part everyone’s in a null pile and currently being sorted.

~R

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you did it didn't you

you picked Archer's Dog that pissed on the tree didn't you

Ahahahahah

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the new guy here

I agree with the scumreads on black. Her posts have been pinging me too, and is why I asked about LLD’s read there in the first place.

I like frogs calling it out.

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I agree with the scumreads on black. Her posts have been pinging me too

Why?

Tone feels off. When I compared your call out of kokichi to porkens yours doesn’t feel organic.

It’s a collection of different times you’ve posted and I just did a head tilt and went “huh?”

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I don’t like any of your posts on page six, for instance.

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It felt more leading and boxing him in whereas porkens was more open and trying to divine alignment, as well as your vote as an afterthought left a bad taste in my mouth.

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I think the end of the alphabet is town.

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That’s an interesting take on our slot.

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I don’t think LLD was speaking about post count as much as post content in 253

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Who’s scum, end of the alphabet?

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Yeah, I kinda want the longhand on black being town too because FMPOV the sync was that one post that squicked me

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Can you point to a couple for me? Just numbers is fine

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Who’s scum cakeboy

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Thanks, porkens. I’ll review and get back to you. I see some of my problem posts in there but I’ll look through your lens

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I don’t think Black and Porkens are ever scum together, but every other alignment pairing for the two of them is still on the table

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So we have two claimed people from a separate faction who can win solo?

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Does borg mean cyborg

And what the fuck does this mean for us exactly

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Also I fucking hate multiball

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Does borg mean cyborg

And what the fuck does this mean for us exactly

Borg as in the race in Star Trek.

they're a hive mind android race that can take over others. think cybermen

I’m here for the ffery upick I’m not the most fluent in flavor. Thanks for translating!

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So this is a help-us-kill-group scum or die situation, no?

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I’m curious if the multiball introduction shakes peoples read on black at all

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Also I fucking hate multiball

me too I didn't sign up to play multiball

I trust ffery to make a fun game so I’m gonna play it out /shrug

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Spoiler:

VOTE: Rogue

Who let the dogs out?

protown willingness to pressure

actually awful posts

Elaborate

fair question, evenly asked.

Hebi already in too deep. Maybe you should have kicked off your reunion tour with a Newbie

Clearly stating scumread.

Does she actually have a scumread on you or was she fishing for reactions in RVS? It's hard for me to tell

Investigative.

Who had the worst opening and why?

You for asking this and not giving your own answer

Exactly what I wanted to say.

@hebi can you explain what LLD's early wolf game is like in comparison?

Investigative.

I dig.
I like hebi last post
It pings town

~R

I do not agree. Hebi seems a little stiff and overly concerned about LLD's scumread

Consistent, and I agreed.

I'm emotionally hurt about it. I'm her partner too.

If she does it every few games...does it always bother you?

Investigative.

H-How could you call me out like this. A-After all we've been through.

It feels a little scummy to ask everyone what they think about the entrances but not give any thoughts on them yourself

Fair and right.

VOTE: Kokichi

Also known as Rogue. I’m the pretty one not to be confused with Gambit who’s the handsome devil.

I like this a lot

it's this post, to be clear.

Also, wow it's 2 posts not 5, lmfao. That's actually incredible I was so high last night.

Anyway, the read is still the case. This is a town post.

How is "I like this a lot" a town post?

Good question, good suspicion, honestly self-deprecating / opposite of LAMIST. Also another question I wanted to ask.

Okay, so why bring LLD and Grey up when I asked without referring to your own read?

Because my read is very weak and the two of them have a personal relationship with hebi so idk, it just feels like their reads are probably more solidified than mine

Reasonable explanation.

Spoiler: These are all of the posts that Black made that I feel like are a wolf engaging with the thread

Clearly I need people I can banter with too. *scans player list* Black! Kawaii! Wavelength! I demand that you engage in banter with me using our incredible history of playing in one game with me so we can confuse the others!

I do not remember you being this demanding in our game and the Aureal I know and love would give the milk his birthday present. Did you roll wolf this game?

The milk is already profusely crying the least we can do is give him his hebi wagon

I cannot help of course because team animals but you understand

Hebi already in too deep. Maybe you should have kicked off your reunion tour with a Newbie

Does she actually have a scumread on you or was she fishing for reactions in RVS? It's hard for me to tell

Who had the worst opening and why?

You for asking this and not giving your own answer

I dig.
I like hebi last post
It pings town

~R

I do not agree. Hebi seems a little stiff and overly concerned about LLD's scumread

I'm emotionally hurt about it. I'm her partner too.

If she does it every few games...does it always bother you?

H-How could you call me out like this. A-After all we've been through.

It feels a little scummy to ask everyone what they think about the entrances but not give any thoughts on them yourself

VOTE: Kokichi

Backing up words with action, initiative - not waiting for others to move first.

Also known as Rogue. I’m the pretty one not to be confused with Gambit who’s the handsome devil.

I like this a lot

it's this post, to be clear.

Also, wow it's 2 posts not 5, lmfao. That's actually incredible I was so high last night.

Anyway, the read is still the case. This is a town post.

How is "I like this a lot" a town post?

Okay, so why bring LLD and Grey up when I asked without referring to your own read?

Because my read is very weak and the two of them have a personal relationship with hebi so idk, it just feels like their reads are probably more solidified than mine

I usually skip RVS stuff since I don't like it, so i get other's opinions from them

Why do you not like RVS stuff?

Cringe posts pretending to be funny

Do you think RVS can be used to find scum?

Also kawaii is in this game? How did I miss that

Sure. I am always down to pressure kawaii

VOTE: Kawaii

That is like...half my posts XD

@LLD I know you said you do not really elaborate on TRs but I was wondering what you found townie about my "I like this a lot" post? Is it just a vibe or what because I think I can make that post as wolf or town tbh

The correct defense from a town mindset i think.

Tone feels off. When I compared your call out of kokichi to porkens yours doesn’t feel organic.

Ok. Why does my call out feel inorganic compared to Porkens?

Page 6 I was mostly trying to figure out what was going on in hebi's mind so idk what there is not to like there

Good reasonable response.

I think I am wary of Kokichi due to a game we just played together but I can see how that can be interpreted as me boxing him in

Pointed yet reasonable.

But I don't think I will be voting for Cakez day 1 this game.

Why not? It seems weird to ignore your strongest scum ping because you do not want to vote for the other half of the hydra

Good question. Scumhunting.

VOTE: Frogs

Wavelength may be afraid to vote for cakez but I am not. I like the meta case

Good vote on frogs IMO.

For instance, this seems like a lot of “they are trying to solve and hunt” but scum would also know they have to solve and hunt. Typically multiball means reduced groupscum size.

spoiler tag fixed ~f

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Other people can correct if I’m wrong but typically multiball means smaller groups? So it would be an easy assumption to make.

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Other people can correct if I’m wrong but typically multiball means smaller groups? So it would be an easy assumption to make.

yeah but hebi has claimed 3 people in this faction of hers.

She also claimed no kill which is a pretty big nerf

Do you really think the setup is 3 with a kill, 3 with no kill, 7 town?

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It’s also really hard to get them in a game with ffery

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Other people can correct if I’m wrong but typically multiball means smaller groups? So it would be an easy assumption to make.

yeah but hebi has claimed 3 people in this faction of hers.

She also claimed no kill which is a pretty big nerf

Do you really think the setup is 3 with a kill, 3 with no kill, 7 town?

I feel like this fucks town harder for misplaying than a demon shard wincon with no town way to remove shards

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I feel like I’m being v town this game too ;-;

But yeah pick someone and we’ll kill them before you die tia

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also I'm getting fuckin' turbo shot this game btw

so if anyone picked fucking Bones and wants to save my ass tonight I'd love that

For finding a 3p faction based on your personal history with them?

C'mon, we've got 10 days left before deadline, why are we trying to determine who is protect-worthy already, or at all?

This is an LLD day one shot lol

I’m townreading her

That is a very rare thing

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What if she's mafia who thought there was a 3P and that's why she went all-out on hebi? Wouldn't mafia want to figure out the 3P, maybe even moreso than town who's just clueless to its existence?

If she doesn’t kill groupscum by like day three we can revisit

But she’s town lmao

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CHESSKID

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What if she's mafia who thought there was a 3P and that's why she went all-out on hebi? Wouldn't mafia want to figure out the 3P, maybe even moreso than town who's just clueless to its existence?

If she doesn’t kill groupscum by like day three we can revisit

But she’s town lmao

btw how do I know which one of you is posting?

No punctuation or super formal is notsci

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I’m still townreading the end of the alphabet.

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Okay that last post was notty too

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Aureal have you played recent games? Iirc you said you’ve been on site for a while

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I’m just mulling over culture shock as a potential issue

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A

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TOP

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I wonder if it’s just a “only hebi leaves the game” situation

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I kinda wanna dig into that part of his claim myself bc I feel like last tarot everyone had fucking nuts roles

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I don’t think I’ve had this flavor of Mountain Dew before

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Just lemme know when you need our vote

Don’t tell Mala tho

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I'm ok with eliminating Hebi for a couple reasons.

1) I feel like the words being used by Hebi to both GreyICE & LLD are very manipulative. It feels more survivialistic than anything. I also dislike the "I want out", but then the "don't kill me before my birthday as it will upset me". One it's confusing, but at the same time it feels like frustrated scum in a corner.

2) Hebi's flip will definitely give information especially to other's possible alignment.

3) eventually hebi is going to be sorted and delaying her death is antitown at best esp if she is infact scum we just gave them more information.

~R

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Koki -- Don't be a brat this game. I'm not even caught up. I'm reading the thread backwards. I don't want to end the game without being fully caught up because if I have questions or concerns I want to address them now.

Why are you manipulating me to end the day early?

Did you roll scum again? Do you want me to eliminate your scum partner and cut off discussion so you can't be caught again.

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..........

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Koki -- Don't be a brat this game. I'm not even caught up. I'm reading the thread backwards.

I don't want to end the game without being fully caught up because if I have questions or concerns I want to address them now.

Why are you manipulating me to end the day early?

Did you roll scum again? Do you want me to eliminate your scum partner and cut off discussion so you can't be caught again.

I'll just say it louder for the class.

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VOTE: Koki

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pagetop is mine

pikapika!

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I say hebi outs her partners or we eliminate her. If they “win with town” what’s the downside?

If she's scum and fakeclaiming youre basically getting into ban territory
thats just a dick move

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right

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Other head-

It’s a weird territory that there was a ban last year for from a player outing their partners intentionally which can be viewed as playing against wincon if said wincon revolves around the survival of that person.

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I think it’s on the partner to out, not on hebi to out

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The last two posts and this post are all notty

Although I fear this is kinda devolving into a difference in playstyle debate

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There’s too many question marks around their wincon that actually seeing it when we flip them should help clear up what to do with the other partner

Basically I’m just saying kill hebi here

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If the wincon is “keep team alive until everyone is recruited” then it kinda needs hebi alive from my understanding

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Random note

I could maybe see hebi as like a third party who’s entire job is to unite the scumteam and then get out

Which sounds weird but non likely given how readily kawaii claimed both

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I think it's Hebi's partner choice to save imo.
trying to get her to out her partner feels wrong

thats my two cents

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Mala said bc he pissed her off and is doing something he did in death note

And LLD hasn’t told me she’s done with the day yet for me to override the vote

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Just lemme know when you need our vote

Don’t tell Mala tho

I have vocally expressed a townread on LLD and that I’m fine with her leading the day. I’m still reading and analyzing, but I’m letting her do her thing. I do better not in the shuffle like that anyways

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I’m okay with me getting the page top bc that means ffery and PP can’t

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If they have a secret wincon it will be grayed out in the flip. But I highly doubt it.

Also Mala gets front seat for a bit, I’m having a bad time over here.

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Something something and my axe

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Put down your shovel, the hole is already gaping

Go read the flips and stop digging yourself deeper

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I’m confused why you think miller would trip a motion detector?

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Wait I thought miller was exclusively cop results and the others had corresponding names (gravedigger)

Is this a new thing?

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That part isn’t great, but I can kinda see the logic?

Self revival isn’t concerning as it’s probably gated and would be revealed upon death if I had to guess. Or maybe a dreaming god somewhere.

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For reference, Pooky is as a lover who created a posthumous neighborhood with me and bulge for a day

So like, it’s not totally o t of the realm of possibilities

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Update wasn’t it made incredibly clear our flavor meant fuckall wrt alignment

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But both flipped town have a section in their PM like that lol

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“There may be parts of your role you don’t know yet”

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If anything wouldn’t Hebis buddy have like, actual things and abilities to use based off the flip? It looked like hebi was almost a backup

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LLD, that is absolutely not the referenced power in hebis role pm and it’s pinging the fuck out of me you just said that

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Go reread it

It’s our ability to vote

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Okay so maybe I’m confused by the open quotation without the secondary?

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Why wouldn’t she have just made it [redacted] then instead of leave one open quote

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I’m Getting into sketchy area so I’m gonna ask a dif question

Do you not read hebis role pm as a backup for her hidden partner? If it’s greyice why wouldn’t he have used any of the aforementioned abilities

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The truncation slipped me up, I knew what our role pm was just didn’t pay attention to the orientation and figured the open quote was intentional. And thus, you saying it pointed to a different power was suspicious.

But I see that I’m wrong, clearly, but how the fuck is this not obvious

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And again, I thought it was referencing the vote line and didn’t check

That’s laziness, not scum.

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It references unused powers though lol

Like multiple

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And again, I thought it was referencing the vote line and didn’t check

That’s laziness, not scum.

You're defending yourself in a way I never accused you of.

I've been getting frustrated with you, not suspicious of you.

Why are you suddenly getting defensive?

You don’t get to push at me for what is clearly is a misunderstanding that I am working through in thread and complain I’m getting defensive.

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Greyice is not a miller. We need to figure out why he said he was because his interpretation of the role he claims to have doesn’t jive with open setup knowledge

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Which was before I clarified the misunderstanding.

Ninja-

No lld I figured it out now and am trying to put it simply for end of alphabet

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Oh that was greyice sorry

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LLD- essentially, I thought she didn’t truncate because I didn’t see [redacted] and assumed that was full role PM. You saying that’s definitively what it said pinged me as something maybe someone in an informed minority would had. But I realized it was truncated and thus no ping.

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Second to last line from Hebi?

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LLD does your flavor have any tie in to hebis favor

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Tbh I think wavelength is scun

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VOTE: Wavelength

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Sorry friends, I just found out the other day my car is totaled so I’m scrambling around atm

I’ll bug Mala and see if she can lend some sooons

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I passed out giving blood

-R

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Kokichi contributed a lot as scum in DN so Idk what's happening

Bro scum was basically unaligned in that game.

I’m looking for pings regarding Kochi that I would normally read him as scum there but didn’t push bc I was so tunneled

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Their posts are scummy and I'm aware they're dealing with some personal issues but positionally on wagons, posting wise when they WERE around and generally just how Hebi interacted with the game makes me think this has high odds of not being town.

Bullshit. Please explain how hebi interacted with us makes us scum.

Yeah I'm not in the greatest mindset for mafia due to RL stuff b/c apparently death is going around in circles of people who I either adored and/or friends with.

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ngl I just ISO'd Hebi.

There's a lot of posts by Hebi that makes ZERO sense as an aligned together.

As well - I already mentioned numerous times that I had a dislike for the manipulation that hebi was doing to try to peel LLD off her. That didn't feel like town motivation for that, but felt like scum interactions.


I can see pork being scum based off hebi post 337 . Mainly because she mentions that pork was her most confident scum read yet she was voting black. Which looks like a distancing post imo. Whereas she wasn't scum reading black she reported "your flip would make things more interesting".

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VOTE: pork

I'm going w/ gut.

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I'll laugh at the suprised pickachu face you make when you realize what a mistake you are making.

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lol

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It’s really just a matter of create the sketchiest fucking wagon you can without concern for who’s on it, huh LLD?

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I’ll gladly, I plan to quote every single post you promised you were right in as you once again fall victim to misreading me and bell

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If I was scum I would have been tilted and nonexistent from gamestart because multiball is the fucking worst

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We’re reboot ahura, we send someone a communications device twice a game and can send them messages throughout the next day and night cycle.

If they’re also from the reboots we get a neighborhood.

I wanted to target LLD and spend the day sending her WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER. Mala said she was going to die. We couldn’t agree on anyone else.

We thought maybe frogs would be from the reboots but we could t think of whoever else would be from them

But this all just a meticulously thought out fakeclaim so please kill me now that it’s out

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We holstered because we couldn’t agree.

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Something something weaponized hydra dissonance something

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I don’t think it is, I just don’t want there to come tomorrow where everyone’s bitching that we flipped town and I didn’t even show up

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Anyways I’m going back to car hunting, have fun gang.

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Because I still feel awkward about the game we just finished.

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VOTE: xyzzy

Consolidation and survivalism yada yada

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Reboot films

I just wanted to be Zoe Saldana she’s my favorite actress

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Yup, we’re a scum team of duo gated neighborizing survivors. You’ve got us. I can’t make my own fake claim, and would rather plagiarize my buddies.

You’ve got me.

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For reference, which you can argue isn’t a tell because I’m aware, but open defiance isn’t a look you typically see from scum-me

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VOTE: aureal

Flailing scum who’s clearly nailed to the wall here

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Second line was referencing obvscum rogue if it isn’t clear

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That’s a great wagon you’ve got their LLD. Lots of real obvtown winners.

Do you mind explaining how resistance proves we’re scum when likely multiball means I would have like, one fucking buddy provided I’m the killing scumteam

Or zero if I’m hebis

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So you’re staunchly following someone who’s trying to steer the game despite the fact you don’t think they are clearly town?

That’s an interesting strategy.

Great wagon y’all have there.

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Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m shading the entirety of the wagon that’s not LLD.

I’m not even saying I think she’s scum. I’m saying she’s wrong.

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LLD’s locked in her tunnel, there’s not any swaying her.

Only snark.

But that’s fine by me.

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Womp Womp

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Womp Womp no more leading wagon

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Is this not what you wanted when you voted aureal? Lol

Just assume my posts have an invisible /s

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If only there were recent games to compare my reaction to pressure to

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I for one think that’s interesting with the knowledge my snark is keeping me on the chopping block whereas aureal isn’t openly combative

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But LLD, I’m tilted scum from multiball

Can’t keep changing the goalposts if I was tilted I wouldn’t be able to keep the Chutzpah up

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Four hours to go. I’m in bed in two.

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Sigh

LLD doesn’t get to lead tomorrow.

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VOTE: Rogue

LLD doesn’t get to lead tomorrow.

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Nope, you’ll take it as a “LLD needs to stop tunneling and I’m not going to let this end in a no elim with no info”

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3 hours to deadline and not a soul in the game around, even if you moved over and wavelength moved back we were all that was viable.

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Whatever you have to say to save face my dude, you pushed through a miselim, figure out who’s scum if you’re town, or good job miseliming me if you’re scum!

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I literally give everyone snark.

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If Rogue is actually scum LLD can be town. But should still

behave herself

and not throw wild stoner celebratory parties for getting two scum in a row or something.

This is what you missed out on!