Mafia 2301: Angels and Demons (Game Over)

[Phir]

Demona is good.

VOTE: Greeting

Hello!

So many words. All this talking. All it does is make Demona look good. No one else has impressed me in any way. I have played before with Demona before, I now believe. See n o reason for these votes.

Doctor Drew feel way too aggressive too me. Maybe the type of aggression scum would fake. Grandstanding while pushing on minutae to keep a wagon perpetually viable.

we shall see.

[Phir]

Doctor Drew feel way too aggressive too me. Maybe the type of aggression scum would fake. Grandstanding while pushing on minutae to keep a wagon perpetually viable.

Is this a meta read?

Never.

[Phir]

Biancospino, do you wish to claim?

[Phir]

VOTE: GrandpaMo

For sake of bigger wagons. No strong inclination on Greeting.

[Phir]

???

Is Greeting scummy?

[Phir]

isn't that hammer?

Lol I almost typed that im fluey and a bit mellowigh and like though I was voting spino for a sec.

Nah thats like me and greeting sharing a grandpa

I made the same worry dw

[Phir]

Nah it's cool as I said I had that exact same suspicion while I was voting, had to check make myself see. It is the O.

[Phir]

???

Is Greeting scummy?

also while i do not think greeting is scummy i guess i do not see why grandpamo is scummy either

but wagons etc

Mo can be town. But. The urge to hammer, then s wantsme want biancoto claim for theyre in range.

I might vote between imaginality and wheme for now. Grreeting total null, can swing both ways.

VOTE: Whemestar

Are you on board with a biancospino hammer?

[Phir]

The one thing I wonder about imaginality is about the cat scrathc vote just when bianco was put at-e1
There's just that fade away. Along with cat scratch being okay with it. Neither urges wheme or drew and unvote.


Imag who votes cat is ok with bianco being put at hammer range with cat there?
Mo then urges the hammer? Scum in wheme/cat/imag/mo/drew if bianco green?

[Phir]

Wtf is this

can we hammer bianco

they are either negative utility 3rd party or scum

like im certain

Lol, towlocked.

And @Meuh, yes, it's basically the same thing Grandpa did in chatGPT.

Always bring a towel

[Phir]

VOTE: Imaginality [\vote]

[Phir]

These poems are sus

[Phir]

GrandpaMo the clown and Cat Scratch the deputy?

[Phir]

Biancospino, do you wish to claim?

VOTE: GrandpaMo

For sake of bigger wagons. No strong inclination on Greeting.

???

Is Greeting scummy?

also while i do not think greeting is scummy i guess i do not see why grandpamo is scummy either

but wagons etc

Mo can be town. But. The urge to hammer, then s wantsme want biancoto claim for theyre in range.

I might vote between imaginality and wheme for now. Grreeting total null, can swing both ways.

VOTE: Whemestar

Are you on board with a biancospino hammer?

hell no hell no hell no . these series of quotes look so bad for u @ phir. going from questioning biancospinos claim at e1e2 votes, the person to who i initiated the wagon on and then proceed to vote me ??? then proceed to say I could be town for the urge to hammer but you were questioning their claim on the wagon I STARTED??!?!

VOTE: Phir

Ths is nonsenscial and frnakly reads like fake outrage.

Im happy with towncore.

Meh on bianco tbh. Imag might be town. Guess we need to hear from wheme. Need to lookit mo.

[Phir]

Deputy town maybe

Honk honk

[Phir]

VOTE: GrandpaMo

Actually let me just speedrun it if ur happy with a bianco hammer and ur reasons for pushongme this fetidly poor I mean with what u already claimed I doubt ur role has inherent value

[Phir]

Cat Scratch im still scrathcin mah head on wagon shopping. Should town apply pressure with votes? Sure frame it how u want but bit of a knee jerk after mo's knee jerk.

Im trying to place it.

[Phir]

Why did Mo's earlier psosts also feel ober the top theatrical to me? Like watching a dimensionally disjointed broahway show like I feel these are crafted emotions sort of but like can it be from jolly town?

Prickly town?

Idek

[Phir]

Im happy with towncore.

so i assume from your posts that the towncore is, uh, me and you? but who are the others you are happy with?

For now I'd say you and meuh. Mutual reads on one another and on me. Don't see the need to distrust you or you so far so yes.


Am I happy? I mean we'll see. Greeting and Cat can be town but I know something they do might trigger my mistrust.

[Phir]

Biancospino, do you wish to claim?

VOTE: GrandpaMo

For sake of bigger wagons. No strong inclination on Greeting.

???

Is Greeting scummy?

also while i do not think greeting is scummy i guess i do not see why grandpamo is scummy either

but wagons etc

Mo can be town. But. The urge to hammer, then s wantsme want biancoto claim for theyre in range.

I might vote between imaginality and wheme for now. Grreeting total null, can swing both ways.

VOTE: Whemestar

Are you on board with a biancospino hammer?

hell no hell no hell no . these series of quotes look so bad for u @ phir. going from questioning biancospinos claim at e1e2 votes, the person to who i initiated the wagon on and then proceed to vote me ??? then proceed to say I could be town for the urge to hammer but you were questioning their claim on the wagon I STARTED??!?!

VOTE: Phir

Ths is nonsenscial and frnakly reads like fake outrage.

Im happy with towncore.

Meh on bianco tbh. Imag might be town. Guess we need to hear from wheme. Need to lookit mo.

we are never voting me here btw. if you think bianco is more townier than me u
thats just comical.

what I said was sensical and ur just mad I exposed u!!

Telling me this makes me want the challenge. Am I capable of pushing Grandppamo ober? Can I achieve that? Maybe I should. You do invite me. And yourgote on me s getting pess and less coherent as u try and.... catch me?

I'm still sire if you're town we won'tbesad to lo lose your role.

Mo votes me, then says mevoting em means im thinking bianco more green?

Althis after mo comes inwith what reads to me like a seizure vote on me.

Honestly if mo is town, this level of non involvement, surface level hunting, 'you'll never get me limmed nyaaah' and'e eryone is scummy cos if I call em scummy end of story'isnt town equitable rn.

Mo u want me to start pushing hard or u wanna start xplaining yourself?

I'll decide my strat re :u later.

[Phir]

How tf am I even scum

Really

Wheme vannilla town world?

[Phir]

Okay I haven’t gave this game time sure but that doesn’t make me scum over people who have gave this game time and are scum

Imag? U might be convince me, the sooner the better. Who else? Why?

[Phir]

Why does there have to be others

Uhhhhhhhh cos it's spicier?

[Phir]

Sure love just bring on the spice

[Phir]

How tf am I even scum

Really

Wheme vannilla town world?

Can you expand on this?

Well, what do you think about it?

[Phir]

Biancospino, do you wish to claim?

VOTE: GrandpaMo

For sake of bigger wagons. No strong inclination on Greeting.

???

Is Greeting scummy?

also while i do not think greeting is scummy i guess i do not see why grandpamo is scummy either

but wagons etc

Mo can be town. But. The urge to hammer, then s wantsme want biancoto claim for theyre in range.

I might vote between imaginality and wheme for now. Grreeting total null, can swing both ways.

VOTE: Whemestar

Are you on board with a biancospino hammer?

hell no hell no hell no . these series of quotes look so bad for u @ phir. going from questioning biancospinos claim at e1e2 votes, the person to who i initiated the wagon on and then proceed to vote me ??? then proceed to say I could be town for the urge to hammer but you were questioning their claim on the wagon I STARTED??!?!

VOTE: Phir

Ths is nonsenscial and frnakly reads like fake outrage.

Im happy with towncore.

Meh on bianco tbh. Imag might be town. Guess we need to hear from wheme. Need to lookit mo.

we are never voting me here btw. if you think bianco is more townier than me u
thats just comical.

what I said was sensical and ur just mad I exposed u!!

Telling me this makes me want the challenge. Am I capable of pushing Grandppamo ober? Can I achieve that? Maybe I should. You do invite me. And yourgote on me s getting pess and less coherent as u try and.... catch me?

I'm still sire if you're town we won'tbesad to lo lose your role.

Mo votes me, then says mevoting em means im thinking bianco more green?

Althis after mo comes inwith what reads to me like a seizure vote on me.

Honestly if mo is town, this level of non involvement, surface level hunting, 'you'll never get me limmed nyaaah' and'e eryone is scummy cos if I call em scummy end of story'isnt town equitable rn.

Mo u want me to start pushing hard or u wanna start xplaining yourself?

I'll decide my strat re :u later.

phir im sorry to say this but ur playing like confident scum -- thinking everyone is gonna agree with you because no one has pressured u except for me and you think u can just silence me. but u won't silence me anytime soon bud ...

also I don't feel like wasting my posts on u anymore because I already have explained myself to u multiple times. im sure others understand so ask them , therr was someone else that saw the same thing i pointed out I believe eit was imsginilty question them because I don't feel like repeating myself on a PHONE. trust me im very capable u should see my games but um im on a phone rn and shit has been difficult anyways wait till I get back or just ask someone else

Nah basically 'phir voted me must be scum'

Like. Acting like post restriction claim makes u a seer. I'll try to.silence you cos I think this push you think u got me pegged on is based on me n ing very forthwright with my voting reasons. And you had cat scratch sheep you on that.

So basically you assume we should.all find bianco.scummy? But you're voting me for poor reasons? Using appeal to authority?

I'll waste as many of your purported limited posts I like if you're voting me. Vote bianco, try to.sell me why we have to.hammer there, sure. But vote me cos 'trust me i'm s good' and 'wow you are actually like voting so uh yeh u gotta.be aggressive scum'

I'll clutter this thread quoting u cos right now your reasons for.voting me are bs and u dont wanna admit it.

Anyway.

Ill hear from.wheme then decide how I wanna vote

[Phir]

Cos

[Phir]

Mo i'm sorry u saod ur dealing with sum stuff but rn someone saying basically 'wow you're voting a lot u scummy' and then doubling down by saying 'im good so yeah' is like useless fmpov, in advancing anything.

If you're town ur wasting ur time by ever having voted me. If ur scum I just dont understand how u ever though to pull off this push. Guess ur town lol, maybe.

[Phir]

Mo bothers me telling demona to use pt and saying they too much but wasting 'restricted posts' to spout general bs. This whole case one me feels like mo wanting something to not do while looking busy.classic scum. Anyway.

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

[Phir]

So I got little to add here. I'll sheep meuh on cat it's like an okay vote. I might also vote wheme, bianco or enchant I guess. Maybe Drew as a distant fifth.

Don't really have someone pegged as scum but goin off vibes guess thats where im at.

N0t much to say bout Mo. Prob inno behavior for now. Still doubt role has any aditional value. Like i wont ask anything cos meh pretty bored tbh but things to know might be if rolecap permanent, whether questions respawn, or if role evolves once question phase completed. Rn i dont see demons killing mo to keep them as a sort of lame duck wild card. Other things might be if mo is informed, or has knowledge or access to past, current or future pts. Also role modifiers or evolutions or whatever. Run of the mill stuff. Like im not gonna ask anything cos rn meh

But like if loud town voices want mo to reveal how good of a nk target they might be yeah. And if mo is like a hidden demon or whatever i think it'll sort itself out along the line

Anyway

Like

That's it

[Phir]

And btw Mo like 6 posts away from 4666

[Phir]

Don't know if I should be paranoid bout that

[Phir]

A giant f'rce is striking me hard. I needeth thy holp.


We needeth to defeat the demons.


We needeth to defeat Phir, the biggest goodyear.


Prithee holp me to recov'r the und'rw'rld from the h'rr'r and disast'r from demons

I mean i keep having the image of you calling me a car tire here. Like i sorta blanked on ur latest posts not regarding answers so it's good i saw this, need to know when ppl push me and stuff.

Anyway i'm pretty sure u didnt wanna call me a tire. Something to do with dawn? Or like complete context error regarding that word. No idea.

Anyway tldr u wanna hunt demons u need a sharper vote yo

[Phir]

Ah shit i wanted to subtly insert the word holp in my diatriabe but i completely forgot. Anyway gl with that giant force i mean like all we can do today is vote right? The above propaganda simply does not achieve this.

[Phir]

and yes, could be lying about anything, could be a distraction, but just ignoring it doesn't really seem like it sorts any of that out?

We could just assume that

GrandpaMo

is town for the time being and look elsewhere? I don't know.

Yes. Perhaps just spoiler questions to mo or whatever before asking them so it's like a group thing, maybe decide whether to drain questions or whatever. But on the whole ultra focus on mo makes thread a bog slog rn. So.

I kinda appreciate your mentality here ngl mega sus a bit on u before so for now I'll just assume ur town and move on.

Basically I also had the urge to say that placing the game in a molock just means the scum get to coast and maybe position for eventual flash wagons. Anyway. I'm not sure how I feel about biancospino?

[Phir]

Mo you're boring me ngl

[Phir]

I'm impressed with all the effort you went through here lol but now that you outright reveal you're not mechanically anything it's all a fart in the wind in the end if your conclusion is that Phir is scum. You have wasted town time on two follies at this point, so besides the fact that your un-angel Phir case is, let me say, shit, and bores me, I'm starting to think you're just a vanilla town. I think bianco might have had the ultimate debunk regarding your sue of green. Hmmm.

Anyway, I'm unchanged. Feel my vote is with town at least.

[Phir]

My feeling is mo locked the narrative but at least sort of cleansed the pallatte. Just a waste of time in the end tho ngl. Fuck sake if u want to lim me mo shoulda claimed like a day cop guradian angel lol with a guilty on me. All u have now are 'wow Phir artifiicial' 'Phir changes votes' (gods forbid a town plauer being considerate and looking for scum oh no!mo just wants narrative control and probably opinion and gut validation, simply repeating 'bianco maybe scummy but let's get Phir yo.'

If Mo is a measly vannilla town then this a great way to get scum to start lurking it out right here. I'm not engaging with u mo cos u wrong on me striaght up.

I won't say good luck cos like I know where I think scum is. U do u.

[Phir]

Post 125 (votes me),

492

(says that greeting was sus to them but now is town but wasnt they in their towncore in the beginning of the game??? look at post 220)

492 is indeed troubling as I've pointed out earlier; but 220 does not actually put Greeting in the towncore, it sais 'can be town but'. I'd be interested in seeing what Phir has to say on the topic because I actually have strong opinions on what state of mind town!Phir should've had in order to make that post

I have fuck all to say on anything if u facilitating grandpamo yo. I think cat scrathc might be scum. You sound fake(lol after mo called me artificial) anyway your tone is weird af and if ur scum with csf like interesting.whatever.

I'm notdefending myself here cos frankly im kinfpda looking at mo as sort of a stale joke in regards to thread health and aiding town at this point.

And u might feel like a narrative setter, semi lurk scum bianco. Idk.

Who else tho? Enchant meh for now. Wheme like........... idk.

Mo ithink is just whacky. U feel sus.

[Phir]

okay what did you learn about others who asked questions and interacted with eachother about the questions? like you can just omit me from your response here but am interested in the others beyond phir,

still interested in this but i will comb through phir iso in the meantime

This statement is also interesting and I guess I feel.sorta combative so lemme tackle it. After mo obvs fakes a role and messes around with town and then reveals they aint special probably, u just taking 'em at face value by going oh yeah ill go thru phir iso. Maybe u think mo town nand maybe im not and thats why but rn I feel town can aid from pressure on csf, bianco maybe like enchant and whatever.

But actually i shoulda let you cook and never made this post. Let's see what your conclusion is....

[Phir]

Oh also I had the weird paranoia that demona/mo/biancospino were all in a hood but that would just be silly

[Phir]

BRO U CONTINUE TO SAY IM SCUM AND SHIT BUT U DONT VOTE.ME

VOTE ME RN WHY R U SO SCARED?

I'm pretty used to shitpushes on this site and I believe my tactics against them are refined, from my personal sense of values.

I'll make this very clear: Don't talk to me. If you wanna hunt me as scum, fine, go ahead. But please leave me alone. My position on you is you're probably vt, why must I repeat this. Please, if you want to shoit and be aggro, leave me alone. I'm ignoring you for a while besides so.

Thank you.

[Phir]

I mean my languagehas been crass these past few posts I admit but overall I think simply put im not in the headscpace for drama rn. Sorry mo I was rude but right now ignoring you is my best path forward.

[Phir]

BRO U CONTINUE TO SAY IM SCUM AND SHIT BUT U DONT VOTE.ME

VOTE ME RN WHY R U SO SCARED?

I'm pretty used to shitpushes on this site and I believe my tactics against them are refined, from my personal sense of values.

I'll make this very clear: Don't talk to me. If you wanna hunt me as scum, fine, go ahead. But please leave me alone. My position on you is you're probably vt, why must I repeat this. Please, if you want to shoit and be aggro, leave me alone. I'm ignoring you for a while besides so.

Thank you.

this is just anti town if youre town lol

pls explain my scumcase on u then? you still havent explained anything nor any of the contradictions you made nor what bianco has pointed out. ur just going into adhomiem and putting ur feelings out there first instead of looking at the objective perspectives on u

Nah. Peace.

[Phir]

BRO U CONTINUE TO SAY IM SCUM AND SHIT BUT U DONT VOTE.ME

VOTE ME RN WHY R U SO SCARED?

No, I think Demona's right, at least currently Phir is saying you're probably just clown town. Thou it is indeed curious how I "feel sus", but instead Phir is voting CSF which is not even in their scum shortlist as of 537

Anyway, VOTE: Phir

[Phir]

Oh my post got ate up.


Basically, bianco you're reasons are weak, I don't like the hesitance on readforming on CSF, might be aligned there. Csf going off u onto wheme might be pertinent. Also, your behavior merits study, esp when u were in hammer range.

That was the gist of my old post, I then said I dont think I need to say more and dont wanna cos

[Phir]

Spoiler: nest

Post 125 (votes me),

492

(says that greeting was sus to them but now is town but wasnt they in their towncore in the beginning of the game??? look at post 220)

492 is indeed troubling as I've pointed out earlier; but 220 does not actually put Greeting in the towncore, it sais 'can be town but'. I'd be interested in seeing what Phir has to say on the topic because I actually have strong opinions on what state of mind town!Phir should've had in order to make that post

just gonna skip ahead a bit momentarily (don't worry still working) and say that i think there's a good chance 492 is related to 442 and such regardless of phir's alignment

like phir either townreads meuh or is pretending to and phir as town weighs the inputs of others, which is pretty consistent and evident, or is very good at faking this aspect of their townplay

It's the mega sus part that's shiny. The quote is of Greeting, so I'm assuming

you

means Greeting

could you reword this for me, i am having trouble following

I don't see Phir ever having been "mega sus" of Greeting, so that's a weird thing to have to "move on" from

Ok this reads pretty terrible in tone also ngl.

Guess im happy with csf vote for now, can vote bianco also. Need to study wheme and enchant.

Thats about it

[Phir]

Honestly, and I should be ignrping u, f-off. I've been clear where I think scum are rn, I have reasons to feel town on people on where I want to, im apin agreement with gretting that u grandpamo are a collosla waste of town time. Like. Troll levels rn. So rick ng push me continue ur theatre bullshit whatever I dont care. And bianco also feels so fake as fuck hopping after everything u say like a shiny monkey.

See?

It's best if I ignore shitpushes esp after aksing ppl to leave me alone so.

This is why I didn't want to drama post today : )

An I shouldnt. Sorta over it, and ldr im not scum, no hard feelings etc. See ya when I see ya

[Phir]

I honestly feel right now, you pushing me, along with your fakery arlier, that whether u were voting me or not I ascribe no value to you as a player, that is to say, by your actions and current stances I see no further need to engage with you in this game.

Hopefully you can change.

[Phir]

Whemestar, do you have a current feel on Cat Scratch Fever and biancospino?

Enchant I guess you can share also if you want ; )

[Phir]

BRO U CONTINUE TO SAY IM SCUM AND SHIT BUT U DONT VOTE.ME

VOTE ME RN WHY R U SO SCARED?

No, I think Demona's right, at least currently Phir is saying you're probably just clown town. Thou it is indeed curious how I "feel sus", but instead Phir is voting CSF which is not even in their scum shortlist as of 537

Anyway, VOTE: Phir

Btw I already said I'm sheeping meuh so. Next trap card please.

(Brief pause for pleasantries, meuh, greeting and demona are sorta my towncore rn)

[Phir]

SHOOT: Phir

If you actually do have a weapon I suggest you holster next time cowboy

[Phir]

Demona I think I need I need to be drunk to read all that sorry gimme like 20 mins.

Hopefully mo actually shot me tho and my soul is free of this pointless realm. It's like ennui either way so meh.

[Phir]

Can u stab me also? I find that to be a more personal, frankly classy way to go.

[Phir]

For the like of you? Nah. Town would be better of killing you lol.

[Phir]

I mean a gentleman would've stabbed me. Town is cursed with your boorish ways of gunning down the innocent I guess.

[Phir]

But.

[Phir]

CURSE: GrandpaMo

[Phir]

I guess town is free of you after all : p

I guess you can say

[Phir]

I'm the ghost hero

[Phir]

Anyway Mo ur still boring af an imma go drink something so. If im not dead I ll try and see what timewaste things u had demona say bout ur timewaste cases tho lol. Anyway, if u were serious then I was and were both ded. If not u just made me reveal lol. As if I care if its a misfire ill get somebody, probably just you. I'm vindictive like.

[Phir]

im responding to 320 because im on phone but its a red flag because he calls me scum and votes someone else but he has been sum shading me all game?

demona, you literally told me they have been calling me town. now you are saying they are not putting in me any alignment just pushing me. and now you don't see the scum move? are you also going to ignore the vote he made on me? you're also getting confused. I don't understand why you're defending him this much lol

yes but one can have more than one thought about the game, like why does that only come from scum to you, like 'this is scummy to me but i'd like to explore this as well'? like maybe the amount of conviction with the read with regards to you there is odd to me but i feel that way very often i feel that way right now about how sure you seemingly are about phir right now

yes, those were at different points in the game? like i don't really see why you would expect a town to have a concrete static read of you, like mostly it feels like you are saying that town!phir would believe that you were a scums here and would vote for you and never reconsider and would push for solely you as hard as they could? which is like ????????? to me, like why would that be your expectation of town!phir?

i am constantly confused yes that's why i try to be as methodical as i can be with regards to alot of things but i am not 'defending' phir, this is simply how i am viewing phir's posts, like i went through all of the posts because you asked me to, so the 'why i am defending them this much' would simply be because you asked me to look and that's how i feel,

demona he does this with many people.

u give me right now 2-3 strong scumrszds he has and 2-3 strong townresds he has. it has been late in day 1, he should have it by now.

but u can't... because he switches up every second. he is inconsistent and keeps doubting himself or not sticking to one thing that he believes.

Shit yeh I need a drink blah blah blah blah blah. You wheme, enchant, like both yall may be town so waiting to hear a bit more boit csf and bianco. Thats all I think I have to say thats productive rn.

[Phir]

i will just assume all bold text is fake until proven otherwise

lol mine was real

im a 1 shot dayvig

And I'm a vengeful ghost warrior so you're fucked love : )

[Phir]

im responding to 320 because im on phone but its a red flag because he calls me scum and votes someone else but he has been sum shading me all game?

demona, you literally told me they have been calling me town. now you are saying they are not putting in me any alignment just pushing me. and now you don't see the scum move? are you also going to ignore the vote he made on me? you're also getting confused. I don't understand why you're defending him this much lol

yes but one can have more than one thought about the game, like why does that only come from scum to you, like 'this is scummy to me but i'd like to explore this as well'? like maybe the amount of conviction with the read with regards to you there is odd to me but i feel that way very often i feel that way right now about how sure you seemingly are about phir right now

yes, those were at different points in the game? like i don't really see why you would expect a town to have a concrete static read of you, like mostly it feels like you are saying that town!phir would believe that you were a scums here and would vote for you and never reconsider and would push for solely you as hard as they could? which is like ????????? to me, like why would that be your expectation of town!phir?

i am constantly confused yes that's why i try to be as methodical as i can be with regards to alot of things but i am not 'defending' phir, this is simply how i am viewing phir's posts, like i went through all of the posts because you asked me to, so the 'why i am defending them this much' would simply be because you asked me to look and that's how i feel,

demona he does this with many people.

u give me right now 2-3 strong scumrszds he has and 2-3 strong townresds he has. it has been late in day 1, he should have it by now.

but u can't... because he switches up every second. he is inconsistent and keeps doubting himself or not sticking to one thing that he believes.

Shit yeh I need a drink blah blah blah blah blah. You wheme, enchant, like both yall may be town so waiting to hear a bit more boit csf and bianco. Thats all I think I have to say thats productive rn.

@DEMONA PLS TELL ME HOW THIS QUOTE MAKES ANY SENSE

Demona please tell Mo to stop bullshitiing everybody and leave me alone so I can have a drink (lol sorry demona ignore me)

[Phir]

i will just assume all bold text is fake until proven otherwise

lol mine was real

im a 1 shot dayvig

And I'm a vengeful ghost warrior so you're fucked love : )

vengeful ghost warrior my ass. only ghosts are scum

Ok ghost

[Phir]

you all unfunny

Yes. Serious serious bunnies.

[Phir]

I think demona solid town. Meuh still town. Greeting I guess. That's about it. I have nothing else to say.

Maybe enchnant u can be funny bye

[Phir]

Who cares maybe somene funny I hope

[Phir]

I think demona solid town. Meuh still town. Greeting I guess. That's about it. I have nothing else to say.

Maybe enchnant u can be funny bye

lolol continues to ignore me and ignore their read on me

Totally worth it.

[Phir]

Ok.

[Phir]

One word.

[Phir]

Read.

[Phir]

mega sus a bit on u before

The wording here is pretty intriguing though, I hadn't noticed the word "mega" there
@Phir can you clarify a bit on the read on Greeting prior to this? The wording is odd

Don't remember all that much re early greeting so i'm probably telling tne truth here. Ithink subcon I thas a lot to do with my first greeting game where they were a cop and I fully believed they were scum. So. I earlier said imma be sus on em and I guess I meant personality, now thats just not there.

Not that it matters at all to me, I get mo is saying I cant share thoughts and u said earlier u sorta agree my read progression isnt linear or whatever butsorta shit doesnt mattert to me, get the scum and move on is what I care about. So honestly iguess there was a point where I did t trust greeting, mega or giga or ultra whatever, it was previous bs cos of greetings tone, now is not such a time.

Ithink thecurrent puzzle is niamco absinthe town? Feels like a little bit bitey and wolfy to me, and I think itwas indeed drunk posting, so meh.

Binaco can stillbe evil.
Mo I think ive said all on and basically uncganged
Cat wow ok sorry ithinkin actions and tone ursorta lookingbad ngl? Like knowing u need to hang back a bit to not look as sussy my current feel. E mona eh still town. Enchant.... im giving ecnhant space.I can put wheme town for anit.not sure boit drew.

Covers most of my reads I think.

Little else to say.

[Phir]

Oh also imaginality keeps slipping under my radar which should make me sus I guess.

Full null for now, ithink I agreed with someones voteon em for sus post? So yeh imag is a read im less sire on I guess, throw em in with enchant for now.

[Phir]

Actually mega sus might have been an overstatement but I did say a bit so meh. Like this is mostly semantics, basically there was def a point where I couldnt trust greeting but I think I knew I wasnt gonna push greeting maybe?

Idk I just flow here and some people might find flow town scummy. I'm more efficient as flow town tho, even if that means I dont pay much attention to what I used to think. Thats my main feel regarding some folk.

So rn I guess im looking at csf voting enchant, bianco voting me, then wanna hear from imaginality maybe? Sorta feel that if csf is scum they might have townspewed wheme by targeting enchant... maybe even enchant lole. So. Let's say im making wheme sorta green just cos, I guess them tring me has an influence. Enchant idk. Hard read for now. Imag? Hmmm. So going of the ppl that feel town for now I'm sorta looking at csf, imag, biancospino and enchant. Drew? Well idk. So like idk where else ya'll wanna push but I feel sorta comfortable rn.

Cat Scratch it's as if you push where you need to instead of where townmight have to idk. Just something's scummy abt u and u seem very calm about it almost.....

So not a solid gotcha scum on I guess but well

[Phir]

Whatever

[Phir]

No longer wasting my time with you mo. Good luck charging windmills.

[Phir]

777

[Phir]

mega sus a bit on u before

The wording here is pretty intriguing though, I hadn't noticed the word "mega" there
@Phir can you clarify a bit on the read on Greeting prior to this? The wording is odd

Don't remember all that much re early greeting so i'm probably telling tne truth here. Ithink subcon I thas a lot to do with my first greeting game where they were a cop and I fully believed they were scum. So. I earlier said imma be sus on em and I guess I meant personality, now thats just not there.

Actually mega sus might have been an overstatement but I did say a bit so meh. Like this is mostly semantics, basically there was def a point where I couldnt trust greeting but I think I knew I wasnt gonna push greeting maybe?

Idk I just flow here and some people might find flow town scummy. I'm more efficient as flow town tho, even if that means I dont pay much attention to what I used to think. Thats my main feel regarding some folk.

This is sounding genuine to me, altough not taking into consideration oneselves' though progression is an alien concept to me.

It would have helped if you made such statement when the matter first came out instead of all this gnashing of teeth; like there must be a reason why you opted to answer Meuh on this but not me.
I understand you're keeping Meuh on a much greater townstanding, but it's still the same question

Nah thing is fmpov mo is a pointless distraction and ur piggybacking of that. If ur scum what ur doing is pretty dumb as mo isnt in a place of power and you sheeping them is a weird strat. One of the reasons im considering you with csf is u might be desperate at this point. Wheme deflated. So.

I only talked bout greeting cos meuh asked. No idea nor concern bout what u and mo say tbh. Mo's og case still bores me etc.

I'm over mo's distractions and overall your vibe to me remaims scummy. I think right now if csf somehow comes in swinging as town id consider voting u.

[Phir]

But thanks for saying i sound geniune after i said ur fake i guess. I dont feel u as town but in the dimension where you like are i might owe u that at least

[Phir]

Cat Scratch it's as if you push where you need to instead of where townmight have to idk.

What on earth does this mean lol

Idk you're acting like scum keeping things safe? Like you position yourself insteada really hunting scum? Has been one vibe. At least you're starting to question me.

[Phir]

UNVOTE:

still considering a bianco csf team

[Phir]

UNVOTE:

still considering a bianco csf team

if u vote csf I will hammer btw

lol whatever at this point i dont know nor care bout your agenda. mine is finding scum.

[Phir]

UNVOTE:

still considering a bianco csf team

if u vote csf I will hammer btw

lol whatever at this point i dont know nor care bout your agenda. mine is finding scum.

im on ur side dipshit

Yeah I'm done with you.

[Phir]

VOTE: CSF

If you are a vt I might understand why u want out lol. If you're town sorry for pushing you. But we'll see..

Hello Enchant!

[Phir]

VOTE: No Elimination

[Phir]

VOTE: Greeting

Why?

[Phir]

GrandpaMo the clown and Cat Scratch the deputy?

Deputy town maybe

Honk honk

These posts have given me nightmares but also please me in a framkly macabre manner.

[Phir]

VOTE: Greeting

Why?

Because i don't believe in watchers with ungated doctors anyway.

Single shot watcher in a bastard game? Greeting a vt or what?

And why are you all so eager to dismiss this as a mime play? Scum shut up and target town today, not claim a check that was gifted and put themselves on the lim train.

So.

Just curious is all : )

[Phir]

Don't tell me you ain't allowing for a single gifted watcher shot in a bastard game enchant. I know you're smart enough to know that a full doc and one sot abilities are a murky thing. I mean Greeting did claim one shot I believe?

[Phir]

Someone gave me a one shot Watcher power. I was watching

demona

overnight and she was visited by

Meuh

.

VOTE: Meuh

Yes.

So...

Why can't a one shot watch ever be in a full doc game enchant? The vibe feels off when you said that eh. Well.

[Phir]

Oh also, unlike demona, I was too uncultured to recognize the poems.

I do at least know that in a Faustian game where the doc dies on the first night, this is basically a demon win. So.

Have fun.

[Phir]

I wondered bout the good doctor,mechanicaI stuff.think demona was nightkilled. I think there are scum. That's it for now, we'll find them. I have my hunches.

Enchant if you're telling me how a one shot watch affects balance in this particular game i'd be somewhat curious, but not receptive. It's possible, in my mind, if it isn't in yours, well...

I'll leave it at that.

What's the point to battle for one's soul if one is already dead? Perhaps allusions to a rebirth.

[Phir]

VOTE: Greeting

Why?

Because i don't believe in watchers with ungated doctors anyway.

Single shot watcher in a bastard game? Greeting a vt or what?

And why are you all so eager to dismiss this as a mime play? Scum shut up and target town today, not claim a check that was gifted and put themselves on the lim train.

So.

Just curious is all : )

If i believed Greeting is mime i would't vote here.

Claiming guilty after realisation of mime game is what i do as mafia like 9 out of 10 and then just coast in hopes people will think i am mime and won't vote me.

Yes. But I do factor in greeting is not you. CSF was good at beingin that maybe vt range but I should have followed some suspcions earlier, the mistake I made was first assuming her indifference could be town related rather than from a first party.

Youwant to gamble on greeting being a smart mime, and obvious scum as you paint them, or theycould just straight up have a guilty or a mock guilty.

You feel way too certain way too fast but imma leave it for now

[Phir]

Not if we hit a mime.

[Phir]

If you're informed that greeting is town you have nothing to fear.

[Phir]

So let me get to it enchant:
*trust meuh
*'watcher' doesn't work with doc
*greeting scum totally does this
*no way greeting is mime(confident)

These are your reasons for this vote. You do not consider that there, in fact, exists a role that gifts one-shot abilities.

Thanks.

[Phir]

Claiming guilty after realisation of mime game is what i do as mafia like 9 out of 10 and then just coast in hopes people will think i am mime and won't vote me.

And a mime that, as you, rekons that a scum would do that, would do the same in a bid to let us conclude they must be scum by this very token.

VOTE: Phir
I suspect voting no lim is a panic move to try to stop us from limming Greeting -- because Phir knows it will hit a Mime; which scum would if it's the case.

And yes, I see the hypocrisy

I suspect I don't much care what you do or say. Rather, it's the truth. This is a joke and I'll treat it as such.

Greeting, how do you feel bout that Enchant vote?

[Phir]

Yup I figured.

[Phir]

So you believe Mo is mime then

[Phir]

So you believe Mo is mime then

Like 99%

And the scumteam is greeting/bianco?

[Phir]

And you assume scum/sk are not informed about the mimes(question for everybody).

[Phir]

So you believe Mo is mime then

Like 99%

And the scumteam is greeting/bianco?

Maybe greeting/Phir who knows

Or meuh/enchant.

Who knows indeed.

[Phir]

And you assume scum/sk are not informed about the mimes(question for everybody).

I am assuming nothing

More dumb questions please?

Do you like pizza?

What's your favorite ice cream flavor?

I think that's it for now

[Phir]

I suspect I don't much care what you do or say. Rather, it's the truth. This is a joke and I'll treat it as such.

Jokes are supposed to be funny, mine wasn't.

It's e-2 now, so if someone piles on another vote then mime!Greeting wins.

But I don't see players on wagon to get off, and I'm pretty confident someone will vote him at some point, so we may as well take the leap of faith now and be done with it. But I have a bad feeling about this.

VOTE: Greeting, e-1

Recklessnes. How quaint.

[Phir]

And you assume scum/sk are not informed about the mimes(question for everybody).

I am assuming nothing

More dumb questions please?

Plz unvote this doesnt feel natural from bianco could be meuh/bianco. I hope you're town lol.

[Phir]

I did earlier wonder bout an enchant scum sending greeting a false positive btw. Maybe it extends to bianco as well. But if greeting scum bianco greeting might fit here lol. Enchant can be town at least.

We need to figure if scum is informed bout mimes tho, or sk.

[Phir]

And I have to check imaginality also with the greeting vote.

The fact that enchant hasnt unvoted can be AI.

If I hammer I might not have to deal with all this shite anymore tho so. Maybe if Mo is mime scum banking on the mo hammer, bianco defs scummy not mimey maybe.

[Phir]

UNVOTE:

Ok cool maybe ignore what I said above. Im stepping away from thread too invested rn

[Phir]

And you assume scum/sk are not informed about the mimes(question for everybody).

I am assuming nothing

More dumb questions please?

Plz unvote this doesnt feel natural from bianco could be meuh/bianco. I hope you're town lol.

I see, you are really panicking eh. You really don't want Greeting to get the axe, why's that? If it's me/meuth, he flips town and then the game is basically solved, so nothing to fear no?

I'm not informed. There are mimes. Your calm tones suggest and an agenda. As did your tone when voting phir.

If scum are informed about mimes bianco/mo scum would be pretty funny ngl. With a false vision mechanic or something.

If you're town and u aint informed bout mime panic is sort of a natural go to. If youre scum with a pretty good idea of where mimes at maybe ur bianco calm.

And maybe simply it is greeting bianco team and u in fact are panicking way more than me with this late wagon shade. But I see little value in u turning on a buddy like that. Maybe u want to distance a bianco/meuh team by saying im in blind panic when im actually just sorta chillin, but always wary.

Whatever. U sound informed so eh.

Im back like later so have fun

[Phir]

Well that game of chicken got cut off too early but I rest my case.
VOTE: Phir

Well ok interesting. Is greeting scum then? Eh, as I said, have fun : )

[Phir]

what you mean above

You are pagetop

U need to think in four dimensions

[Phir]

what you mean above

You are pagetop

U need to think in four dimensions

Who you think are mimes

I think I need to think how I want to answer this to be honest. Actually I need to read a bit.

[Phir]

Greeting, how do you feel bout that Enchant vote?

I don't really care. I've played with

Enchant

numerous times and he's always hunting me for whatever reason so his vote on me is probably NAI. He has never been very useful in game-solving either. Kinda like a slightly more talkative Not_Mafia.

I have been in situations where both enchant and not mafia's reads as town have been exactly right, uncannily so, but that's meta so whateber to each their own. A lot has happened so love to jear more but im out for now.

[Phir]

Claiming guilty after realisation of mime game is what i do as mafia like 9 out of 10 and then just coast in hopes people will think i am mime and won't vote me.

And a mime that, as you, rekons that a scum would do that, would do the same in a bid to let us conclude they must be scum by this very token.

VOTE: Phir
I suspect voting no lim is a panic move to try to stop us from limming Greeting -- because Phir knows it will hit a Mime; which scum would if it's the case.

And yes, I see the hypocrisy

Hmm this is interesting
I think the way Bianco’s sticking to this mentality here is +town
You think it’s mime!Greeting and scum!Phir?
Not sure that fully clicks with me but I do agree that scum in a mime!Greeting world would be trying get votes elsewhere
Though why would scum not just push for me rather than trying to sell a nolim? I think that’s much simpler

Bianco is very much not town.

[Phir]

Any sort of want to clarify on his supposed watcher check gets pushed back on, all he wants is me dead and nothing more

I have not been interacting with your posts, because, unfortunately, based on the result that I have, you are 100% scum.

You are correct in that all I want today is you dead. And I do not want whomever gave me this ability to claim.

I have a red check on you which leaves no doubts, you are the only person who targeted

demona

last night. And she dropped dead.

The only possible reasons that this might be wrong is either the ability itself gives a wrong check or that my result was somehow falsified. None of which really make any sense. If we look at the ability that gives out wrong checks without considering which faction has this ability, it is very clear that it is far more likely to disproportionately harm town than mafia, which would make the game very unbalanced. If the result was somehow falsified, someone who did this must have known that I would be due to receive it or that someone would be giving it out. Which, overall, sounds very unlikely, especially if we are talking about Day 1.

The above is why, in 1024, I said that if my result is wrong then the game setup is broken. Even for a bastard game, the game is supposed to be fair and winnable for all factions, and not present an inherent disadvantage to any faction.

Why watch demona?

[Phir]

Not sure what to make of Phir’s posting today; it’s odd but I’m not sure what alignment it actually shows

Hmm ok.

[Phir]

Broken clocks are right once per day.

Nah theres luck and there's skill, u and nm have skill.

[Phir]

Claiming guilty after realisation of mime game is what i do as mafia like 9 out of 10 and then just coast in hopes people will think i am mime and won't vote me.

And a mime that, as you, rekons that a scum would do that, would do the same in a bid to let us conclude they must be scum by this very token.

VOTE: Phir
I suspect voting no lim is a panic move to try to stop us from limming Greeting -- because Phir knows it will hit a Mime; which scum would if it's the case.

And yes, I see the hypocrisy

Hmm this is interesting
I think the way Bianco’s sticking to this mentality here is +town
You think it’s mime!Greeting and scum!Phir?
Not sure that fully clicks with me but I do agree that scum in a mime!Greeting world would be trying get votes elsewhere
Though why would scum not just push for me rather than trying to sell a nolim? I think that’s much simpler

Bianco is very much not town.

Why?

They ain't town.

[Phir]

Yes.

[Phir]

Alright so today is just going in circles.

Everyone just pick ether Greeting/Meuh to elim.

Or state a better fucking case for anyone else if you don't want to go between them.

This is getting painful to read.

You think meuh is lying here?

[Phir]

Greeting are you able to tell me who you think is town here?

[Phir]

Greeting are you able to tell me who you think is town here?

At this moment I am townreading only yourself. Maybe townleaning

Doctor Drew

as well.

I think

GrandpaMo

is the second mime, and we should avoid eliminating him for that reason. There is a slightly smaller chance that the second mime is

WhemeStar

, if it’s

GrandpaMo

then he’s probably town.

Enchant

is a null read.

imaginality

and

biancospino

are scummy.

I don’t know how many scums are there though. It’s possible that there are two, given that we have at least two mimes in the game as well, in which case the second scum is between the aforementioned two.

Last night while thinking I wondered anout: Meuh and Imaginality scum, biancospino

[Phir]

ngl phir im interested in ur no vote, I see a potential benefit. talk to me

The benefit is keeping safe. But I know it fails, even in this game, so I don't feel like pushing it. Maybe someday I'll get a no lim.

Right now at least I feel bianco isn't town. So.

I'm not going to vote Bianco I'm not a lemming.

Meuh I will vote however. Outside of how they have backtracked on me bei g town and other things, the clear drive today is towards a greeting or meuh lim.

Greeting: Could be town, scum, or capable mime
Meuh: Could be good scum or at this point lost town but not a mime
Biancospino: Scum or mime. Hard to decide which, both vibes are there.

If I want to vote today it's gonna be meuh, I'll hammer over greeting.

I've been getting dEfinite scum vibes from them today. I feel their positioning on bianco and imag is weird.

And for now it's my safest play oother than a no lim or a self vote.

Meuh..... almost voted just now but meh there's time.

[Phir]

Cat Scatch/Bianco as mimes and Imag/meuh as scum makes sense on an instinctual level to me since last night.

[Phir]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever E-2

If there was scum on WhemeStar it's probably this vote switch to Enchant because I don't think scum!Drew would switch to Mo (if Mo was a likely mislim that would've kicked off after the fake PR stuff).

And... eh I guess scum!bianco might see town!Phir as a possible mislim but CSF's vote on Enchant seems the most likely to be scum trying to get a different mislim going after the first one stalled.

The rolefishing seems bad (narrows down who might be doc, also the 'weird or normal roles' question could help scum with faking claims. Specifically I don't think we should say if there are thematic flavour elements in our PMs or not). But it does seem, particularly demona asking about doc, too blatant for scum to feel comfortable doing it.

This is a pretty weird game to try to read, it feels like listening to people talking underwater. I wouldn't be opposed to limming WhemeStar still (I think the flip would be more informative than waiting to get a read from their posts) but I was suspicious of CSF earlier and the switch to Enchant has pinged me again.

Okay yeah Imaginality can be town, love this post

Hmm.

What do you love about that post?

Ok I read back to try and see where greeting was when they were in hammer range, im sort of agreeing with enchant the poss. They a mime slimmer.

Instead I noticed this, and at the time I was also curious about imag's post which basically sheeped the demona/greeting/meuh/phir dynamic. I kept silent, and while meuh's ready acceptance of imag's post might have raised an eyebrow I think I still had meuh as solid town.

I forgot all aboit all that, but I did like greeting not seeming to like imag's post by questioning meuh.

So.

Going off what imag says here I'm starting to feel scum uninformed about mimes, meuh/imag scum bianco/cat mimes, I'm feeling it stronger.

[Phir]

VOTE: imaginality for now.

[Phir]

VOTE: imaginality for now.

why

Cos I'm basically waiting to vote meuh. Doubt people will vote outside meuh/greeting.

[Phir]

No.

[Phir]

lol like a gopher from a hole

[Phir]

gladly, after we slay some demons

[Phir]

Poeple are always so damn hasty *sigh* at least unvote so we might get a claim

[Phir]

Ok Imma leave it here then. idk whether the mime hammers this sorta not in their interest.

I'm still of the belief that scum are way probs meuh/imag but i guess I wanna be fair.

Anyway. imma play Alina

not gonna boredom hammer rn

[Phir]

Poeple are always so damn hasty *sigh* at least unvote so we might get a claim

This is laughable

Glad I made your day brighter

[Phir]

It was fun have a good time all