mini theme 2315 - love child (game over)

[Afrayed Knott]

So hello everyone, is it too late for an RVS vote?

VOTE: Alianna Alphabetical after me...

Wow eight pages already..... meh

And so much colour, is that going to be

a

thing

in

this

game?

anyway, so seems many of you know each other and have game time, well I don't. brief game with Andante, Titus and Hu Tao, before being lim'd D1 but that's about it. In fact I think Titus joined the game after I was lim'd.

So.. what next?

oh yes my TZ is GMT +4, so probably will not be chatting live to many of you....

annnnd can I get one of those D1 passes too?


UNVOTE:

[Afrayed Knott]

*honks angrily at five pages and demands cheese instead*

a lot of cheese in this game.. I have several types if you are interested. Soft and hard

[Afrayed Knott]

we got the first 1 hour and 56 minutes out of the way, time really flies huh.

you all having fun?

I’m enjoying this game like fruit flies with a banana

I like bananas, dose that make me a fruit fly?

@Skygazer. I will let you know if I am having fun in about eight days.

[Afrayed Knott]

no one liking broccoli right now? why do we think there are masons in the game? I thought that was all a joke?

[Afrayed Knott]

there is way too much thought behind this entrance post, and of all people to rvs vote, interesting pick.. made a thing of it only to unvote as well??

I liked it too. thanks...

[Afrayed Knott]

Pretty sure alianna is town here

well you have one over on me... why?

[Afrayed Knott]

afrayed seems too lost/that entrance... was way too much effort for someone to instantly just drop off.

ok, don't get your thought process but fine, and yes I m lost, very much so.

FYI I tried to post that 4 times and kept getting an error message, so I screenshot the error message and sent it off to the Board Mod. Then it started to work. So yes I did have time to refine it. And I had actually read the preceding 8 pages and picked up on some of the nuances that are present. And I thought you liked it but ok if you don't then I'm ok with that too, I still like it. Shows I'm getting to grips with the post mechanics.

[Afrayed Knott]

Pretty sure alianna is town here

well you have one over on me... why?

would be great if you could stop working and answer this...

[Afrayed Knott]

no one liking broccoli right now? why do we think there are masons in the game? I thought that was all a joke?

this was at you too Andante.. don't make the same mistake you made before though...

[Afrayed Knott]

It was a joke because Skyg said time flies

Okay.... I still like bananas though, might try giving one to the geese.

[Afrayed Knott]

This is perhaps the liveliest this one's seen a game be this early on with the amount of scumreads already going around.

I have none, is that an issue?

I still have cheese... here ducky ducky ducky

[Afrayed Knott]

I still feel like a bystander at a television shop window watching a panel discussion on several TV sets with the sound turned down.... I have no idea who is what and why....

[Afrayed Knott]

but why, its a dead wagon...It's metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!!

its dead

[Afrayed Knott]

but why, its a dead wagon...It's metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!!

its dead

Says you, maybe
Also lmfao “metabolic processes” you got that from a video game didn’t you?

It's the parrot sketch ... Monty Python... look it up

[Afrayed Knott]

is Ircher E-1?

[Afrayed Knott]

it's a part of faking it till you make it

story of my life.... ducky ducky ducky

[Afrayed Knott]

VOTE: Ircher

oops... I let some cheese slip

[Afrayed Knott]

UNVOTE:

[Afrayed Knott]

oooooh sorry Plant thing

[Afrayed Knott]

VOTE: Broccoli

[Afrayed Knott]

ok... I need a viable education to understand that?

by the way there are not only geese and ducks we should consider...

[Afrayed Knott]

VOTE: Ircher

duck poop, I just realised I'm on the wrong Battery Farm

[Afrayed Knott]

E-2

[Afrayed Knott]

oops no E -1

[Afrayed Knott]

wtf were these posts by AKnot?

Can someone explain them to me?

@Aureal I agree that Ircher's playstyle tends to be generally scumread but I feel if he's town his play here is terrible, and I'm fully expecting town!him to give some better content whenever next he's here.

I don't mind going back to Alianna though.

well I can't so you are chicken feed chum

[Afrayed Knott]

i

what is that with afrayed

i mean i am not sure it is alignment indicative but still

I know. its so disconcerting, Qwwwak

[Afrayed Knott]

Hey Furtive welcome to the game. Sorry I’ve been busy at work. Shall have a read in a few hours and get down to it.

Cheesy vote btw

[Afrayed Knott]

INCOMING FLOCK POST!!

[Afrayed Knott]

Still think Titus is scummy

I kind of think we need a flip at this point? Under the impression that night actions will be meaningful

Is this gut or a genuine thought based on game play?

[Afrayed Knott]

Also where is everyone?

Yeah sorry. Been busy IRL..
Quick Question are you an Alt, Yes I think I might have seen you post on this but I am truly too far in page wise to go look.

[Afrayed Knott]

This one can definitely see an argument for scum!Titus at this point, but more to the point of replying to YOU: Are you sure a flip THIS early is the way to go? The day is still comically young and we're not even 15 pages into the game, and it just seems a little premature to meeee?

Bahhhhh yeah had the same thought. I see Docs comment on it too. But I also see that we are in page 22/3… so ummmm

[Afrayed Knott]

i have been intending to try and compare ircher to previous games i have had with him and just uh

have not had the time to do so

but also we are 13 pages in i was not expecting to have to do that sort of engagement this early on

What were you expecting?

[Afrayed Knott]

Part of this one wants to call that post from Meuh alignment indicative but it isn't sure to which alignment its indicative. Just a WEIRD one overall.

Ok, I find this weird tbf. if you could expand on each that would help? But ok there is this and your response to it

but even so, indulge me please

Pre Edit: Meuh making that post makes me think town may be on the wrong path, and they want to end the day before we get on the right path

[Afrayed Knott]

I think titus is scum, idk if it's for similar reasons to others, interesting to see people moving there though

I really need to understand this. Is this because you know their gameplay, or are you just following the flock?

[Afrayed Knott]

yoooo afrayed... I think is scum

Nah like I said, don't make the same mistake twice. Unless you know you are, then stop. Do you know?

[Afrayed Knott]

You vote a lot too….

all that work for the entrance.. where did he go?

RL work... XD

[Afrayed Knott]

the fact this wagon is composed of 2 of my higher level scum reads... really makes me have a hard time believing ircher flips town

get that tunnel going... QWAK QWAK

[Afrayed Knott]

Voting for me is bad btw, I happen to be town

That’s sweet… I will bear it in mind.

[Afrayed Knott]

especially with the beetlejuice

what is that?... serious question



I like 356 to 359 … Andante can sit on the lower Town perch for now.

[Afrayed Knott]

I can see the scum me angle but Andante is one of the only people solving here and said solving looks townie to me

I would disagree, I would say more actively voting and throwing around questions. And yes this has been slow to gain any momentum but looks like the game is speeding up a little

[Afrayed Knott]

I’m not touching Drew with a 15-foot pole here

why not?

[Afrayed Knott]

Actually going to join you on this Andante because Titus to me is the lesser of two evils? Genuine blunder on my part to forget to mention Afrayed when asked about my reads but yeah Afrayed feels more like Legit scum than Titus who seems like she might be apathetic town or otherwise just not really trying rn, but we'll have to see. For now definitely most comfortable with Afrayed.

I'm not. seems I became LHF.. look elsewhere please that’s a good duck…

[Afrayed Knott]

am choosing to believe you are using the solve juice that I am opting not to use this game
Because ftr I am Not Really Trying this game

sooooo what is that and why not?

[Afrayed Knott]

Titus is annoyed, OK I know that I have been lined up as a possible scumbuddy to her, but she is starting to sound like a fucked off Town Duck. Interesting though how Hu Toa and Gamma are as absent as I and yet Andante misses that….

Right now looks like theta is just trying to jump from one wagon to the next

Andante is just jumping votes as is Broccoli. is that a good or bad thing?

[Afrayed Knott]

Was thinking yesterday that there's scum in Alianna/Hu Tao like 92% of the time when just looking at the PL, found Hu Tao's ISO yawn inducing and now Alianna's gotten replaced and I kinda wanna let Furtive settle in before starting anything (though I find Alianna's ISO bad tbh)

But Hu hasn't been in the game, so where did the read come from?

[Afrayed Knott]

Okay yeah this one does kinda see now what Drew meant with the Andante/Meuh stuff but either way this one thinks Afrayed is the way to go here.

Nah...

[Afrayed Knott]

Is this post towny...I'm saddened to disagree.
I'm gonna pull on this loose thread.

why is it not towny, I'm town and I like to feed ducks?

[Afrayed Knott]

Agree with this, Ircher has always seemed scummy to me regardless of alignment. Not really sure what the right approach is.

LOLZ

I know how they feel...

[Afrayed Knott]

Putting Afrayed Knott last because I feel confident in this read and I want to underline it to get more votes on him.

179 isn't just wack, it's really scummy. The 'random' vote is ostentatiously explained, comments about pages and colour are robotically dry, mention of being mislimmed D1 in a previous game is subtle ATE, ends with a plea for a D1 pass just unashamed survivalism.

I'll townbloc with whoever votes AK tho

not liking you right now.

[Afrayed Knott]

After reading through I just don't know where to look. I know that in itself is not s good thing to say, But what is there to say. I obviously cant get away from the fact that Furtive is targeting me for what I see as a crappy read on my open post and then my lack of input. But not much I can do about that so meh.

Outside of that I don't feel comfortable with the following Gamma, Meuh and Theta. And then there is Andante's serious lack of noticing that I am not the only LHF. Even so I am currently comfortable with her interaction. I acknowledge the feelings towards Titus from some, but again don't see I, thus my question above in 554

But of those I have highlighted

VOTE: Meuh

[Afrayed Knott]

She has more than a year of veterancy over me and this one thinks she should know that a longer day is almost INTRINSICALLY better for town!! AND THUS IT DRIVES ME UP THE WALL!!!!!!!

so mainly Meta is driving you to think they are scum?

[Afrayed Knott]

The classic game of Town Blunder or Scum Maneuver

but you think maneuverer?

[Afrayed Knott]

'm wondering whether Ircher was just told by someone while at E-1 "hey can you start hard pushing Titus?". Just a theory, but I'd like to maybe get some comment from Ircher on this - was your initial vote's logic the same as given by Meuh (not solving)? Was there more at the time?

how hard a theory, or just a fancy?

[Afrayed Knott]

Btw I feel decent about furrtive rn

why?

[Afrayed Knott]

I just think it’s odd you want someone else to start a fresh wagon rather than doing it yourself.

wasn't that wagon already there, and I do recall Broc being on it, in fact he actually started it

[Afrayed Knott]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Afrayed Knott]

It's reacting to your own name being mentioned, especially soon afterwards. Comes from a character who appears when you say his name I think.

thank you, got it from the film...

[Afrayed Knott]

It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).

nice, did your pals tell you that just now?

[Afrayed Knott]

great. I don't have a predecessor? or am I misunderstanding you?

or is this a weak try at sarcasm?

[Afrayed Knott]

Did you even read the post you are replying to?

Yes 583.

sorry I'm totally confused....

skygazer note: changed vote tag to post tag

[Afrayed Knott]

that should be Post not Vote

@mod any chance of a fix please

[Afrayed Knott]

Hi, All VLA as it’s the weekend, I see this has picked up. Had a quick skim and seen my wagon has grown. So will read it tomorrow night and get my thoughts down let me at least answer before you grow it any further if you do. Which will be wrong but hey. Sheep will follow as will lemmings. Back to watching rugby and drinking special beverages…. Cheers all

[Afrayed Knott]

“Flock” as in a large group of posts.

A joke.

generally I group post in a game because of TZs.

FFS really. Some of you need to get an imagination

[Afrayed Knott]

I have a few questions for you btw and an observation or two. So tomorrow if you let me I will ask them. And maybe you can actually answer them and not be a flippant as you have already to my questions

[Afrayed Knott]

Btw I feel decent about furrtive rn

why?

I have very little faith that you actually care about genuine questioning, but I feel like the places he’s going feel logical for town!him

So here was my question around this. I asked why, perfectly simple question, why do you feel decent about Furtive rn? But your response is rather flippant tbh. How are you suppose to ask a question, how does the word “why” not seem genuine? Here is what I think. - You couldn’t care less about your read and when asked you distract the question by throwing mud at the person asking it. Also your response is pretty lame. You could expound on why you feel or know that what we are seeing is town Furtive. Bottom line is you aren’t helping town with this. Are you?

[Afrayed Knott]

So hello everyone, is it too late for an RVS vote?

VOTE: Alianna Alphabetical after me...

Wow eight pages already..... meh

And so much colour, is that going to be

a

thing

in

this

game?

anyway, so seems many of you know each other and have game time, well I don't. brief game with Andante, Titus and Hu Tao, before being lim'd D1 but that's about it. In fact I think Titus joined the game after I was lim'd.

So.. what next?

oh yes my TZ is GMT +4, so probably will not be chatting live to many of you....

annnnd can I get one of those D1 passes too?


UNVOTE:

Is this post towny...I'm saddened to disagree.
I'm gonna pull on this loose thread.

VOTE: Afrayed Knott

Let’s look at this. I could ask a few others this question, but as it forms the basis of your pushed to lim me, how about you let me know exactly what about my opening post is scummy? Because I see nothing in it that says scummy to me. If I had seen it coming from anyone else I don’t think I would have picked up on it. So just humour me, why do you disagree that its towny, pull it apart and let us discuss you rather weak reasoning.

[Afrayed Knott]

great. I don't have a predecessor? or am I misunderstanding you?

or is this a weak try at sarcasm?

I understand this now, maybe use quote marks next time to show you are quoting your buddies

[Afrayed Knott]

I think titus is scum, idk if it's for similar reasons to others, interesting to see people moving there though

I really need to understand this. Is this because you know their gameplay, or are you just following the flock?

This seems to imply that flock is used in a similar way to how we use 'sheep'.

Sorry if you don't want me to talk about this before he answers btw, I just legit have nothing better to do.

You could be right, but then Flock is also a descriptive for a group of birds… which is what was meant. Or did you miss the theme of this game.

[Afrayed Knott]

Your previous questions didn’t feel genuine and I think one of your responses to someone else’s answers justified my opinion

I’ve responded to this already, but let us explore it more shall we. If you could point at what seems not genuine about my questions to you then fair enough lim me. I get the feeling you are just riding along on a wave in the pond right now?

[Afrayed Knott]

The classic game of Town Blunder or Scum Maneuver

but you think maneuverer?

ig so if we have to put round thoughts into square holes

what u mean?

This one feels like Afrayed keeps trying to make the read go from 1 to 100 wrt if Meuh is scum for wanting an early end to day and like yeah this one leans scum a bit on her for that its really fucking weird for town to do but

someone

is poking and prodding me like "hey so meuhs scum to you right? yeah you think shes scum huh? yeah? uh-huh?" and it feels like an attempt at escalation? And that unnerves me a little, to be honest.

Doctor Drew - I actually liked my reasoning for scum!drew yesterday, my gut read is that drew is scum here

"I liked my own reasoning on them" is a bit odd here don't you think?

How is this?

It's just an odd statement to make on your own reads list to me. Would have much preferred if she mentioned what that reasoning she liked was in place of that.

It’s me trying to understand your thought process. Because it could be useful later in the game. Plus understanding exactly what you mean will help me read you.

[Afrayed Knott]

The problem is your questions don’t feel very thoughtful, you seem to ask a lot of “why” questions that sometimes have answers already in-thread. That’s the first thing that bothered me, and then seeing you try to flip furtive’s response against him told me all I felt I needed to know.

What do you mean by trying to flip Furtive, why shouldn’t I try to ask questions. This is ridiculous. Because I ask why it’s not genuine?


Why are you even considering that as a scum tell is beyond me. Your whole reason to vote me rests on that alone?

[Afrayed Knott]

I got PEdited so hard I ended up causing a sonic boom with how hard I clapped back!

Sorry what? Honestly explain this PEdited?

[Afrayed Knott]

You may have noticed I have changed to using the word What, as apparently asking why is a scum tell

[Afrayed Knott]

I think my vote is good. You sound very wish washer right now

[Afrayed Knott]

Again, you hang on to a weak reason to vote. And yes I am asking you why I can’t ask questions. You really need to re evaluate your whole approach if that is all your voting is based on, weak accusations that someone is not being genuine.

Again I ask you show me where what I ask is not genuine, or where I am not genuinely engaged in the game. So don’t just point a finger and get all flustered because you can’t actually give an answer to a reasonable question.

[Afrayed Knott]

The problem is your questions don’t feel very thoughtful, you seem to ask a lot of “why” questions that sometimes have answers already in-thread. That’s the first thing that bothered me, and then seeing you try to flip furtive’s response against him told me all I felt I needed to know.

What do you mean by trying to flip Furtive, why shouldn’t I try to ask questions. This is ridiculous. Because I ask why it’s not genuine?


Why are you even considering that as a scum tell is beyond me. Your whole reason to vote me rests on that alone?

You’re misreading, I am saying you took furtive’s answer to your question and tried to make him look bad with it. Why should I allow you to do that to me? I think it’s better to make you work for it if you want to miselim me.
You can ask questions; you just should ask better questions.
I don’t think I’m voting you, last I recall my vote was still on Ircher?

I tried to look him look bad? No I disagreed with his read as he is wrong. So yes I am going to call him out

[Afrayed Knott]

EBWOP

tired to make him look

[Afrayed Knott]

Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there

VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh

I don't see anything towny from GE prior to this post.

Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there

VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh

VOTE: Titus

lol glad im not the only one thinking this

I'm familiar with scum!Titus and she's usually tonally stiffer than this game.

*honks in confusion because she doesn't feel a strong differentiation between Ircher's meta dependent on his alignment and his terse play style tends to be read as scummy in general*

Agree with this, Ircher has always seemed scummy to me regardless of alignment. Not really sure what the right approach is.

maybe it's a little extra to have two vote counts on one page, but i'm going for it

nah it's great

I'm here

thoughts?

Still think Titus is scummy

I kind of think we need a flip at this point? Under the impression that night actions will be meaningful

This seems quite early in the day page-wise, +scum for me.

Setup: I'll probably just go on reads as usual rather than get too caught up in trying to outguess the mod/fall into setup spec pitfalls that are probably expected.

Broccoli Quest 2 - town.
HighPrincessErinys - town, agreed with a lot of posts here.
Doctor Drew - town by meta and direction of travel (i.e. agrees with my takes)
Hu Tao - town. Liked both streams of posts so far
Theta Alpine - town. A level of depth to posting about reads that I didn't see from scum!Rautherdir in Conception (hope talking about alt metas is ok)

Ircher - unsure. Scum by posts (as ever?) but town by VCA?
Andante - unsure. Not a priority vote at the moment but I am wary of what I saw as a scattergun approach to votes/scumreads.
Gamma Emerald - unsure. Wallflower act is meta typical but harder to read, hopefully GE gets into a more direct discussion at some point soon.
Titus - unsure. Tonally different from scumgame but voting is a little strange.
Aureal - unsure. Tonally seems town and just like past towngames but not packing enough of a punch to be a TR just yet.

Meuh - scum based on posting and voting. I don't get the TRs here at all.
Afrayed Knott - scum. Vote priority urgent.

these were the furtive posts I liked btw

Why did you like them? Is this based on play experience or just because he can put together a good argument. Which you do know is not alignment indicative

[Afrayed Knott]

'm wondering whether Ircher was just told by someone while at E-1 "hey can you start hard pushing Titus?". Just a theory, but I'd like to maybe get some comment from Ircher on this - was your initial vote's logic the same as given by Meuh (not solving)? Was there more at the time?

how hard a theory, or just a fancy?

especially with the beetlejuice

what is that?... serious question

It's reacting to your own name being mentioned, especially soon afterwards. Comes from a character who appears when you say his name I think.

'm wondering whether Ircher was just told by someone while at E-1 "hey can you start hard pushing Titus?". Just a theory, but I'd like to maybe get some comment from Ircher on this - was your initial vote's logic the same as given by Meuh (not solving)? Was there more at the time?

how hard a theory, or just a fancy?

It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).

It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).

nice, did your pals tell you that just now?

This whole interaction
You ask an innocuous-looking question, furrtive answers honestly, you go in and try to suggest furrtive got the response from his alleged scumbuddies

Do you not see how duplicitous you look here?

Nope, do you know how weak your argument against me looks?

[Afrayed Knott]

You do of course realise that was sarcasm sheesh.

[Afrayed Knott]

Anyway I am done talking with you. Come back when your argument is stronger