I usually can doom it pretty well myself, so this is nothing new heh.In post 404, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Hi Drew! Congrats on the doomed slot!
Will catch up in the next few hours or so
VOTE: unvote
I usually can doom it pretty well myself, so this is nothing new heh.In post 404, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Hi Drew! Congrats on the doomed slot!
You know full well I am Cult Leader.In post 408, Meuh wrote:Drew are you scum? You would never be scum, right?In post 405, Doctor Drew wrote:I usually can doom it pretty well myself, so this is nothing new heh.In post 404, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Hi Drew! Congrats on the doomed slot!
Will catch up in the next few hours or so
VOTE: unvote
What do you make of Aureal's defense of Ice?In post 429, jjh927 wrote:Was a bit of a gut feeling I was starting to get with the way they were promising content later when tbh there's not even really that much to discuss in detail yetIn post 416, Taly wrote:jjh, what was attractive about flippingdragon? you mentioned they looked like a scum slot
I think scum are more likely to feel self conscious about when they're not doing stuff and basically my immediate thought when I voted was that Dragon might just be a player who struggles to play scum
Well I was confused about how it happened so quickly, I know you had some issues with Ice, but was it about Ice repping out as well?In post 439, Taly wrote:you have no commentary on your flashwagon? and potential flash-elimination?In post 428, Doctor Drew wrote: I have skimmed backwards to about page 8 or nine.
What is this game Sky? Lol
I was gonna ask who Wesley is as well, but seems like it is a mystery to all.
Also, Aureal will hopefully get a chuckle out of hard defending mybslot without even knowing it lol.
(Though I do find it odd that she was so greatly defending Ice, but I don't think I could scum doing that unless they really really want the town cred......plus seems kinda par for the course on how she acts when fired up town).
So far that is my only real read, but still at work so will catch up more later on.
I don't think Meuh and I have ever read each correctly lol, so I am no help there.In post 448, Taly wrote: this game is pretty easy if{aureal, jjh, theta}are all town
i dont have a good track record at readingmeuhso if anyone has insight there, feel free to share
I actually am starting to like this Wesley person.
Also I have seen townAureal get exacerbated like she was in defending Ice, it did actually seem genuine.In post 460, Meuh wrote:I don’t think the confidence is uncharacteristic of Aureal and her perception of Ice Dragon seems accurate? Not particularly tempted to say it’s TMIIn post 411, Taly wrote:meuhdo you thinkaurealis TMIingdrewtown? if not, what is your perception of them voicing their rebuke of the elimination?
I think it added a nice dramatic pause.In post 459, Meuh wrote: I misplaced the comma… embarassing…
In post 325, Taly wrote:i mean, i felt that a lot of their emotion posting was insincere but that mightve been just new-player postingIn post 323, jjh927 wrote:We could do itIn post 322, Taly wrote: instinct makes me want to flipdragonsbefore replacement but that probably wont happen before one enters
VOTE: Icedragon
It looks a lot like a scum slot
VOTE: IceDragon
youre one of my 4 townreads so, here ya go
Taly, this is sticking out to me as well. You seemed really hyped to lim Dragon once they were being replaced.In post 331, Taly wrote: actually,Dragonis at E1
Wheme please fulfill your purpose in mafia and lolhammer
In post 334, Taly wrote:dragonsprogressions were inconsistent and the emotion in their posts read as false, they also didnt have any detailed opinions on the game and i felt like their questions would be ones id fake as scum to keep below radar
Ok, I guess I should have just read a few more posts haha.
In post 307, biancospino wrote: VOTE: Dragon
In post 284, IceDragon70 wrote: The probelm I have is with Taly not answering it at all and also not really responding to what bianco said.Didn't you already find something scummyIn post 306, IceDragon70 wrote: Alright I will do some ISO job to see if I find anything scummy
Lol, I can actually see why Bianco voted Dragon here.In post 310, IceDragon70 wrote:I honestly kinda forgot about thatIn post 307, biancospino wrote: VOTE: Dragon
In post 284, IceDragon70 wrote: The probelm I have is with Taly not answering it at all and also not really responding to what bianco said.Didn't you already find something scummyIn post 306, IceDragon70 wrote: Alright I will do some ISO job to see if I find anything scummy
But yeah I should probably pressure that
Oh look I'm already voting Taly
I actually was hoping for a response from JJh here, so a little signal boost doesn't hurt.In post 431, Doctor Drew wrote:What do you make of Aureal's defense of Ice?In post 429, jjh927 wrote:Was a bit of a gut feeling I was starting to get with the way they were promising content later when tbh there's not even really that much to discuss in detail yetIn post 416, Taly wrote:jjh, what was attractive about flippingdragon? you mentioned they looked like a scum slot
I think scum are more likely to feel self conscious about when they're not doing stuff and basically my immediate thought when I voted was that Dragon might just be a player who struggles to play scum
In post 332, HighPrincessErinys wrote:Yeah sorry this one hasn't been paying the most attention to the game. Other than my complaints about the Wheme/Theta thing earlier... fuckin' uhh...In post 324, Taly wrote:highprincessemprysive looked at your ISO and couldnt really tell where you stand on anything, mind sharing any pressing thoughts?
Dragon's replace-out is annoying but kind of whatever, not sure why we're immediately jumping to killing him now.
Big fan of you and jjh being proactive but also pretty sure you two are the alleged super cool townplayers so that's par for the course (but still appreciated).
My gut tells me there's something fucked up and evil about wesley.
And this one doesn't like the vibes of bianco in 300 going "please!! please everyone be voting please i beg!! vote me even just VOTE !! PLEASE !!!!". Maybe something to do with her role?
HPE, what changed in these 12 minutes to say you don't think Dragon should be limmed to their ISO stinking?In post 338, HighPrincessErinys wrote:We're about to solve that cause yeah this ISO does rather stink.
VOTE: IceDragon70
Well those same wolves could be your buddyIn post 487, HighPrincessErinys wrote:throwin me to the wolves here...In post 486, Doctor Drew wrote: Ok fair enough, Hpe....I don't feel like redoing this post on my phone though haha, so my reads will stand
I don't wanna do Bianco, but I definitely could do Hpe
In post 496, Taly wrote: iM nOT oPenWoLFiNg i PrOmISe
Based it off of the votes on the Dragon flash wagon.In post 504, Aureal wrote:Why?
Excuse me??In post 508, HighPrincessErinys wrote:bitch said fair enough and then scumcases for me it...In post 506, Doctor Drew wrote:Based it off of the votes on the Dragon flash wagon.In post 504, Aureal wrote:Why?
I will say I feel more strongly of Bianco as town than Hpe as scum.
I assume referring to me as bitch was the grievous misspelling?In post 520, HighPrincessErinys wrote:oh yeah thats some grievous mispelling.In post 512, Doctor Drew wrote:Excuse me??In post 508, HighPrincessErinys wrote:bitch said fair enough and then scumcases for me it...In post 506, Doctor Drew wrote:Based it off of the votes on the Dragon flash wagon.In post 504, Aureal wrote:Why?
I will say I feel more strongly of Bianco as town than Hpe as scum.
"and then scumcases me for it..."
Nothing you can get from the flash wagon on Dragon, how I have been since repping in, or how people have moved around my slot?In post 523, WhemeStar wrote: Like usually I can feel like ppl are obv town and I was thinking princess was earlier when I was doing my hurting theta thing but idk everyoen is meh
Now I do think it was funny, initially I was like wtf did I doIn post 524, HighPrincessErinys wrote:In post 521, Doctor Drew wrote: I assume referring to me as bitch was the grievous misspelling?
In post 528, Aureal wrote:I am so lost.In post 526, Doctor Drew wrote:Now I do think it was funny, initially I was like wtf did I doIn post 524, HighPrincessErinys wrote:In post 521, Doctor Drew wrote: I assume referring to me as bitch was the grievous misspelling?
A poorly placed typo by HPEIn post 508, HighPrincessErinys wrote:bitch said fair enough and then scumcases for me it...In post 506, Doctor Drew wrote:Based it off of the votes on the Dragon flash wagon.In post 504, Aureal wrote:Why?
I will say I feel more strongly of Bianco as town than Hpe as scum.
Oh I glossed over this, don't think I skimmed far enough back to see that it was When who hurt Theta.In post 527, Aureal wrote:So you were just doing that as a reaction test?In post 523, WhemeStar wrote: Like usually I can feel like ppl are obv town and I was thinking princess was earlier when I was doing my hurting theta thing but idk everyoen is meh
Oh, I didn't know that Hpe tried to stop him.In post 533, Aureal wrote:Pretty sure that refers to him thinking HPE was obvtown for trying to stop him.In post 531, Doctor Drew wrote:Oh I glossed over this, don't think I skimmed far enough back to see that it was When who hurt Theta.In post 527, Aureal wrote:So you were just doing that as a reaction test?In post 523, WhemeStar wrote: Like usually I can feel like ppl are obv town and I was thinking princess was earlier when I was doing my hurting theta thing but idk everyoen is meh
Why would you hurt her, if you thought she was obv town?
Oh that would be hilarious, but would it be Wesley or Taly lol.
Definitely feels like Wheme is playing dumb hereIn post 665, Aureal wrote:Dragon hit five votes. It didn't end the day. You hit five votes. Why do you expect day to end now?In post 662, WhemeStar wrote:In post 660, Aureal wrote: Why would the weirdness apply when IceDragon70 got to five votes but not you?
Idk what this means
You didn't notice what went down with Dragon?In post 668, WhemeStar wrote: Idk didn’t realize that
Just seemed like he was too ok with his lim, like I could see a buddy in that situation telling him to just act like you have no idea what is going on and don't fight.In post 678, Aureal wrote: Hmmm
So Drew, tell me more about why you thought Wheme was being coached to lurk and not fight his elimination?
Was Dragon ever on the board?In post 686, Theta Alpine wrote: well
i mean
i have a theory as to that actually
i have a suspicion that anyone not on the board requires an extra vote to eliminate
Oh I misread this lol.In post 686, Theta Alpine wrote: well
i mean
i have a theory as to that actually
i have a suspicion that anyone not on the board requires an extra vote to eliminate
I thought you said people on the board take more votes, thought I saw Wheme on there recently as well.In post 691, Theta Alpine wrote: which
is actually why i thought wheme might actually be eliminated at five when dragons did not
Wheme was on there for the final VC though.In post 694, Theta Alpine wrote:ohIn post 692, Doctor Drew wrote:I thought you said people on the board take more votes, thought I saw Wheme on there recently as well.In post 691, Theta Alpine wrote: which
is actually why i thought wheme might actually be eliminated at five when dragons did not
yeah no i said not somewhere in there
God dammit, my reading comprehension is shit right now lol.In post 696, Theta Alpine wrote: yes
wheme was on the board
and if my theory is right then that means they did not need an extra vote to eliminate
The reason I asked him anything is because he seemed way too passive about not having any reads, which seemed so weird to me considering what had happened before I repped in.In post 698, Aureal wrote:What parts seemed coached, and what questioning are you talking about? From what I can see, you asked him one thing, and he didn't even reply to it. And what made you think he was okay with being the lim when almost all the votes came on him at once, without him posting in between? Wheme was at one vote then didn't post again until he was at four.In post 684, Doctor Drew wrote:Just seemed like he was too ok with his lim, like I could see a buddy in that situation telling him to just act like you have no idea what is going on and don't fight.In post 678, Aureal wrote: Hmmm
So Drew, tell me more about why you thought Wheme was being coached to lurk and not fight his elimination?
But honestly, started to feel like he was being coached as I questioned him a bit about not having any reads at all despite what has transpired.
I don't get why if not even talking mech, Taly wants Bianco gonzo.In post 734, Aureal wrote:Why? I know you've said you're not really into mech but Theta and I both seem to think bianco's power is pretty pro-town. Doesn't feel like something likely to be given to a scum role.
I have played with Wheme more than just Weird Dreams, and I have seem him much more engaged as town then here(admittedly I don't remember much of Weird Dreams outside of me saving Python and killing scumTitus at the same time lol). It wasn't until this moment that I remember him as the D1 lim there until you brought it up.In post 736, Aureal wrote:I think DrewIn post 713, Taly wrote:this feels too specific a reason to come from scum at the velocity of the wagonIn post 684, Doctor Drew wrote:Just seemed like he was too ok with his lim, like I could see a buddy in that situation telling him to just act like you have no idea what is going on and don't fight.In post 678, Aureal wrote: Hmmm
So Drew, tell me more about why you thought Wheme was being coached to lurk and not fight his elimination?
But honestly, started to feel like he was being coached as I questioned him a bit about not having any reads at all despite what has transpired.
I might have been projecting how I would have handled things though heh.
Pre Edit: Theta, do you think this is something we legit should pay attention to? I have been kinda ignoring it so farneedsto pull out 'specific reason' here to have any chance of not throwing giant red flags all over the place here. So no, I don't agree with you there. This very much reads like an excuse to me because Drew has good reason to think I'm going to suspect him for this. Drew and I have played with Wheme before, in Weird Dreams which I referenced earlier. Guess who got voted out day one after doing very little and even saying a lim on him wouldn't be bad? Guess who fought tooth and nail against the limbait-Wheme wagon? I'm finding it hard to reconcile Drew's readiness to yeet Wheme here with his contempt for such things elsewhere. What was so different about Wheme here, Drew?
Who, Bianco or JJH?In post 740, Aureal wrote:Pokemon huh? OK taking a look...In post 738, Doctor Drew wrote:I have played with Wheme more than just Weird Dreams, and I have seem him much more engaged as town then here(admittedly I don't remember much of Weird Dreams outside of me saving Python and killing scumTitus at the same time lol). It wasn't until this moment that I remember him as the D1 lim there until you brought it up.In post 736, Aureal wrote:I think DrewIn post 713, Taly wrote:this feels too specific a reason to come from scum at the velocity of the wagonIn post 684, Doctor Drew wrote:Just seemed like he was too ok with his lim, like I could see a buddy in that situation telling him to just act like you have no idea what is going on and don't fight.In post 678, Aureal wrote: Hmmm
So Drew, tell me more about why you thought Wheme was being coached to lurk and not fight his elimination?
But honestly, started to feel like he was being coached as I questioned him a bit about not having any reads at all despite what has transpired.
I might have been projecting how I would have handled things though heh.
Pre Edit: Theta, do you think this is something we legit should pay attention to? I have been kinda ignoring it so farneedsto pull out 'specific reason' here to have any chance of not throwing giant red flags all over the place here. So no, I don't agree with you there. This very much reads like an excuse to me because Drew has good reason to think I'm going to suspect him for this. Drew and I have played with Wheme before, in Weird Dreams which I referenced earlier. Guess who got voted out day one after doing very little and even saying a lim on him wouldn't be bad? Guess who fought tooth and nail against the limbait-Wheme wagon? I'm finding it hard to reconcile Drew's readiness to yeet Wheme here with his contempt for such things elsewhere. What was so different about Wheme here, Drew?
If memory serves me correctly, I have seen Wheme be very blase as scum in Pokemon? I could be misremembering that, but the point being, Weird Dreams had no factor in my read of Wheme here.
I already explained in detail why I thought they were scum here, if you don't like the reasoning behind, so be it......you do you. It was few hours until deadline and someone I had already voiced concern with was the leading wagon(wheme) and I didn't want one of my top town reads(Bianco) limmed, and to a lesser extent jjh or Taly limmed(over wheme least). Maybe I talked myself into it a bit too much, if I am gonna be self critical......maybe I justified it in my head, but he seemed to fit the pieces of a good scum lim for D1.
Gosh, he was so much more engaged there. Just looking at the first 24 hours of his posting there, I feel he was doing way more in that time than he did all game here. Or maybe even here plus Weird Dreams, though he did start getting involved while being wagoned right at the end in that one.
I'm still not getting how this makes you come down on the side of voting a lurker day one when the other wagon was also someone you'd expressed suspicion towards.
You expect me to remember any examples off the top of my head? I feel like this is a loaded question since I am usually adamant about limming lurkers on D1, and maybe you know this about me. Wheme wasn't afk, or a slot that was prodded or about to be replaced, they posted infrequently and when they did claimed to not have reads, even when I pressed them on their lack of reads. And when end of day came and they had at least a little heat(HPE's vote on him), they made one post about HPE being town and that's it. Maybe you don't like my explanation, but this is why I felt better about limming Wheme, especially as I said given the deadline.....ahem, lurking.In post 742, Aureal wrote: Wheme and jjh were both at 3 when you popped in with a vote though?
Do you have any examples of town games where you voted a lurker at deadline?
I was at work the day of deadline, I could kinda follow along but didn't really have the time to make a post or anything(I suppose I could have voted).In post 745, Aureal wrote: OK, I guess I wasn't paying that much attention to where the other votes were, I'll grant you that.
But really, when have I ever tunneled you?
Also, why did you not vote for so long? It's kinda weirding me out how several people expressed suspicion of HPE but I was the only one who actually voted there.
I am sure you said it, but what was your Wesley theory?In post 752, Aureal wrote: Support for my wesley theory continues to grow.
Sorry for whoever got eaten by toucans, lol.
I hard claim sock puppet.In post 755, Aureal wrote: "all targets who have fruit" in their PMs should be everyone who has a town (apple) or Mafia (orange) PM. So, y'know, no need to even say as much, if that's everyone in the game. But then there's wesley too. Who might not even have a PM at all. What do you even write for a sock puppet?
Well, it's Skygazer, so probably something silly anyway.
In post 788, Aureal wrote:Can you explain why you felt Taly was so towny? I didn't have any strong feelings on her one way or another so this confuses me.In post 763, Meuh wrote: Taly was getting obv townier and townier so I can’t say I’m relieved
Glad the role wasn’t anything super powerful though
Hold on, you have been giving me the business about why I voted Wheme and not JJh, and here you are, Aureal, trying to make the person pushing JJH(Meuh) look bad.....just as the JJH wagon is gaining steam.In post 789, Aureal wrote:"Why bother, it's not going to work because it's obvious wesley isn't town or scum, and I won't even necessarily have a way to confirm that it didn't work other than trying to grill wesley into admitting it" is probably what my train of thought would be there, given that ability.In post 768, Meuh wrote: Taly’s role just sounds like a 3p finder so not targeting Wesley with it is ??????
Why do you even care? Weird thing to kvetch about when Taly already flipped town.
Well that's the thing, I don't think she is blatantly protecting JJh(and no I don't think.they are partnered since she has been seemingly ready to vote him, since I repped in at least).In post 795, Meuh wrote:Aureal suddenly giving a shit about me when I push jjh is scummy, but imo more likely to be partnered than scum stepping in to defend a townie? Aureal gets herself into shit by pushing back on me considering there’s momentum against jjh, I don’t think scum Aureal really benefits from taking this stance with a town jjhIn post 793, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 788, Aureal wrote:Can you explain why you felt Taly was so towny? I didn't have any strong feelings on her one way or another so this confuses me.In post 763, Meuh wrote: Taly was getting obv townier and townier so I can’t say I’m relieved
Glad the role wasn’t anything super powerful thoughHold on, you have been giving me the business about why I voted Wheme and not JJh, and here you are, Aureal, trying to make the person pushing JJH(Meuh) look bad.....just as the JJH wagon is gaining steam.In post 789, Aureal wrote:"Why bother, it's not going to work because it's obvious wesley isn't town or scum, and I won't even necessarily have a way to confirm that it didn't work other than trying to grill wesley into admitting it" is probably what my train of thought would be there, given that ability.In post 768, Meuh wrote: Taly’s role just sounds like a 3p finder so not targeting Wesley with it is ??????
Why do you even care? Weird thing to kvetch about when Taly already flipped town.
I even looked backed to when you switched from voting JJh to Wheme, literally was right before I voted Wheme......you gave me shit for not voting him and choosing to vote Wheme, when you LEFT the JJh wagon to vote Wheme!
I think you are trying to play both sides here, trying to push JJh while also keeping others in the conversation for a mislim. I was looking at you like 'of course Aureal is town' but taking a step back I see I was probably wrong. Ironically you pushing me on why I voted Wheme caused me to take this step back, so thank you for that lol.
VOTE: Aureal
How so? I mean look at how you are looking at it, what I think she is doing doesn't really disrupt the JJh wagon while making others(you and I) look bad.In post 799, Meuh wrote: Like the biggest momentum since daystart has been Bianco and I pushing for jjh, and then earlier, Aureal’s had some back and forths with you and Wesley’s been calling jjh scum. If she’s scum and jjh is town, I feel like she gets herself into trouble for no reason by posting like she is currently.
The TMI was the extreme defense of Dragon after she thought he was limmed.In post 806, Meuh wrote:But making others look back comes at the cost of potential backlash against here (like, for example, your current reaction)In post 805, Doctor Drew wrote:How so? I mean look at how you are looking at it, what I think she is doing doesn't really disrupt the JJh wagon while making others(you and I) look bad.In post 799, Meuh wrote: Like the biggest momentum since daystart has been Bianco and I pushing for jjh, and then earlier, Aureal’s had some back and forths with you and Wesley’s been calling jjh scum. If she’s scum and jjh is town, I feel like she gets herself into trouble for no reason by posting like she is currently.
And coupled with her hypocrisy in regards to me, the TMI when she said she thought Dragons was hammered, and her positioning here.....like I said it doesn't add up to town play to me.
Pre Edit: Half my goal is to entertain you.....the other half is to point out the red flags
Perhaps this is a standpoint where I'm overestimating how precisely calculated scum games are, but if Aureal were to weigh the option of entering the thread the way she did as scum, I don't think she'd see it as particularly good if jjh is town
Also can you point me to the direction of the TMI?
Lol, I can't figure you outIn post 819, Aureal wrote: I think you know what I must do
VOTE: jjh927
LOOK GUYS IT'S DEFINITELY TWILIGHT
PANIC
Ya I thought that was the hammer?In post 822, Theta Alpine wrote: uh
if my theory about the votes thing is correct that may have been hammer
Is it worth seeing if this is something?In post 825, Theta Alpine wrote: i guess this will prove if someone is voteless or if it is something with the threat assessment board messing with votes required for elimination
I dunno, that threat assessment board makes me wanna vote you 7 times haha.