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Post #59 (isolation #7) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:56 am
Postby Gypyx »
what can i say, your friendly vibes got me convinced you are town
In post 43, Ausuka wrote:
I don't know if this game feels dead or I just need to adjust my expectations. Well that might be kind of my fault anyway if true? I'm not used to having to put in actual legwork in rvs, but the whole 'sitting back' thing obviously doesn't work if everyone does it.
My snow vote was for the "helpless townie" thing. I think scum are somewhat more likely to write that line, probably not out of any conscious strategy but because their mental focus is on Acting Like a Town Would and it leads them to say stuff like that that puts emphasis on themselves being town.
@Deus - I don't mind the gimmick, but could you try to word it so it's a bit more clear what point you are trying to make? I'm struggling to parse your posts.
Klick in a world where gypyx is town do you think scum is unlikely to vote/push them on page 1? or do you think the way cakez and clout did it was specifically towny in some way
this post is also what made me say it, mostly in the "why do i have to do all the effort" and "Deus please make readable posts"
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Post #76 (isolation #8) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:37 pm
Postby Gypyx »
In post 61, Ausuka wrote:
can you explain the deus please make readable posts bit
like, this is very focused on understeanding what deus is trying to say, while even if scum could've made this point (less likely imo) they probably would've acted more annoyed about it or something
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Post #77 (isolation #9) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:38 pm
Postby Gypyx »
In post 65, SirCakez wrote:
Gypyx still looks like the scummiest player to me, it feels like she's trying too hard to play to some kind of town style rn
Klick and Ausuka feel town
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Post #89 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:29 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 82, Snow2697 wrote:
Gypyx claims that she has solved the game.
Klick is about to do the same.
Is it too early for town player? If yes, everyone will solve it too.
In post 82, Snow2697 wrote:
Gypyx claims that she has solved the game.
Klick is about to do the same.
Is it too early for town player? If yes, everyone will solve it too.
I have 2 scumreads
these 2 scumreads make sense in a team together
A town would usually hesitate and cannot be confident about status of the player. Especially on D1.
Game solved means that there is confidence and no hesitation.
And yes, scumread does not mean scum.
Well what can i say, i'm telling you i'm that confident in my reads
not excluding that i am wrong, but so far i feel like that's a gameview that has very decent odds of being right
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Post #100 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:51 am
Postby Gypyx »
i'll answer that around page 15 snow, i'm not seeing many reasons to doubt myself but i recognize reading people when i have less than 100 posts to read is complicated
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Post #103 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:11 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 101, Deus Deceptor wrote:
To provide some more clarity on the state of the 'game', as according to the principles I have provided:
- Ausuka is representing predominantly selfless intrinsic motivations, from a set of predominantly personalised explanations: this has the underlying implications of the intention to pursue cooperation, which is necessary in order to uncover potential vectors of intentional deceit.
- Political Clout is representing awareness of the potential for selfish intrinsic motivations of Klick, and has called them in to question in #55.
- They have also represented awareness of the potential for selfless intrinsic motivations of Ausuka, and suggested that it trends towards being alignment indicative in #50.
- This representation appears to be informed by an understanding that town-sided players should be more motivated to cooperate than mafia-sided players.
- Snow2697 is making a conscious attempt to Neutralise the represented perspectives of the opposing parties he responds to; including me.
- Naerys has provided no content worth commenting on whatsoever, other than nonsense accusations.
Gypyx, Klick and Naerys are, in actuality, the players who are not playing mafia whatsoever. They are simply attempting to engage in a shouting match in the hopes that everyone else will cave to their unreasonable selfishness. In actuality, because this is a 'game' that trends them as being town-sided... Because the sheer lack of self-awareness to genuinely believe that could EVER result in a good game of mafia, would be an act of pure bad faith if they were
actually
members of the mafia.
Where do you say we should be looking for scum then? I'm kinda struggling to see where this is all going
In post 127, Naerys wrote:
at this point i dont read deceptor´s posts at all, they are complete bs
sorry, but i find you completely unplayable with
That is indeed the point. The frustration you are feeling is the proof that your 'ego' is undergoing a state of change, because of its inherent fragility. Precisely because you are not reading what I am saying, and not trying to understand whether there is verisimilitude contained within the confines of my verbiage, you are falling for my ploy.
You will never escape the causality of your consciousness. Instead, you will soon be possessed by the demons of your nightmares... Because it was always my consciousness to begin with.
(Previously Deus. English is my second language so my brain cannot handle some of their posts, but from some of their posts that I could decode, I felt that they're actually trying to solve the game instead of hiding behind RP. I'm aware someone already mentioned it, but I want to mention it again because I'm about to lock this slot as town.)
Psyche
(Previously Klick, and based purely on Klick. Most of Psyche's posts were counciling Deus, which is helpful but unfortunately not alignment-indicative. Klick's posts felt kinda stiff in general, but it is probably a playstyle thing. I liked this post in particular.)
[ B I G ☆ G A P ]
Ausuka
(I think posts are okay in general. But that's all I got on her. Tentative townread, but if I was a cop I'd scan her N1.)
(I'd like to think, at this point, that any attempts to decode Deus' posts are +town. 70 and 82 are consistent but it doesn't really mean much. Overall null, but slightly leaning town.)
SirCakez
(Gives me mixed feelings. His attack on Deus feel like it's like 80% hate-the-long-post. I'll probably get a better grasp on him when he simmers down and come back later.)
Robert2424
(?)
[ Special category because my inner sadist tells me that purposefully not stating a read on her would agonize her ]
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Post #209 (isolation #25) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:53 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 208, Layla wrote:
Silly of you both to think that mental reset is going to happen, when you're going to read the same posts that got you like that in the first place.
i think catching the train while it's running is better than me trying to keep up with stuff
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Post #269 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:13 am
Postby Gypyx »
Planned to catch back up about now but i'm completely out of spoons so i'll just declare that i agree with the general consensus that Layla is extremely towny
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Post #306 (isolation #31) » Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:44 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 295, Ausuka wrote:
i feel like i should be trying to turn up the temperature somehow
i don't think there's much of anything to work with?? a lot of town players aren't giving reads and stuff so there's a lot of room for scum to hide, and that kind of perpetuates itself because it's hard for town players to get reads.
I will give a reads list in some attempt to rectify this.
Psyche
t3
layla
robert
snow
Clout
Gypyx
Sircakez
The gypyx take is probably the only fresh one? Her confidence just suddenly plummeted in a way I wasn't a massive fan of. Like idk in a vacuum I understand being like 'whatever I'm giving up my reads' and then not feeling super able to generate new ones, but she was so confident in solving the game super early and then that all evaporates after the deus drama? Idk I don't like it and it feels like she saw the game losing energy and just went along with it but went about it awkwardly
I needed some time to refuel my spirit energy but actually this game has me hyped to think about people again
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Post #414 (isolation #41) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:23 pm
Postby Gypyx »
mod you forgot to update how many votes are needed to lim ya nerd
Psyche could you elaborate on why you've decided robert is town? I maybe can understeand thinking his newbiness makes him seem scummy but town is a pretty tough thing to sell
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Post #419 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:42 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 415, Psyche wrote:
oh in retrospect its only a little better than a null read
i liked his soliloquy about voting cakez enough to not want to lim him that day
still wonder if there's anything to anyone's votes on him
i don't think i ever saw anything really articulated
I kinda like how psyche corrects himself in answer to me asking for more, as if he really didn't think about how to present this read (which is a step that scum kinda has to go through)
the reaction to the wagon also looks very much content focus? like, i'm not saying effort = town but i feel like he cares more about the votes being hard to extract content from
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Post #435 (isolation #45) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:52 pm
Postby Gypyx »
Snow is obviously struggling but i kinda like where his head's at in a general sense, there's also a few smaller towntells here and there
actually it's PC who i'm getting my eye on right now (as well as robert but this read is getting a bit stale)
PC seems very complaceant and happy to keep the game in it's state of semi-stagnation, the insistance on Psyche and the cakez post for instance really feels like willingly going down a dead end
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Post #440 (isolation #46) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:45 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 438, Psyche wrote:
think i have enough to reject that pc is paired w either snow or robert, especially robert
would maybe have rejected the gypx relation too if she had voted in that last post
still, probably one of the stronger townreads i have surprisingly
trying to gather interest for reads and stuff, voting could do that but i feel like it would also be needlessly antagonistic
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Post #450 (isolation #49) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:56 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 82, Snow2697 wrote:
Gypyx claims that she has solved the game.
Klick is about to do the same.
Is it too early for town player? If yes, everyone will solve it too.
to give out more than just me declaring my general vibes on snow, i feel like he rarely makes this first post as scum where my solve is on 2 townies (cakez flipped town and i've gotten around to view psyche as one of my stronger townreads)
this last one is also absolutely going to be asked in the scum PT rather than in the main thread in a world where snow is scum imo
In post 435, Gypyx wrote:
Snow is obviously struggling but i kinda like where his head's at in a general sense, there's also a few smaller towntells here and there
actually it's PC who i'm getting my eye on right now (as well as robert but this read is getting a bit stale)
PC seems very complaceant and happy to keep the game in it's state of semi-stagnation, the insistance on Psyche and the cakez post for instance really feels like willingly going down a dead end
Where exactly is Snow's head at to you
well that's exactly the thing, i think snow himself is kinda confused on where his head's at ? in a town way ofc
In post 357, Gypyx wrote:
Starting to think you're probably town but also what's done is done
i feel like we have done enough for today, maybe we could've made more but it was also a weird day 1
Gypyx can you explain where your head is at here
Like why did you think cakez was town at this point and why did you not try and go after Robert instead
Also like potentially nitpicky but would you stand by the idea that we did enough on day 1
The Reaction to being almost dead looked good to me, i could dive back to go into more details if that's what you want
and saying we did enough day 1 was more of a morale thing, like yeah, i could agree, but there's kinda no point and it's better to try to keep everyone's mood up
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Post #470 (isolation #53) » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:00 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 82, Snow2697 wrote:
Gypyx claims that she has solved the game.
Klick is about to do the same.
Is it too early for town player? If yes, everyone will solve it too.
as i've said before, scum is probably happy to let me on my wild goose chase
In post 82, Snow2697 wrote:
Gypyx claims that she has solved the game.
Klick is about to do the same.
Is it too early for town player? If yes, everyone will solve it too.
I have 2 scumreads
these 2 scumreads make sense in a team together
A town would usually hesitate and cannot be confident about status of the player. Especially on D1.
Game solved means that there is confidence and no hesitation.
And yes, scumread does not mean scum.
Well what can i say, i'm telling you i'm that confident in my reads
not excluding that i am wrong, but so far i feel like that's a gameview that has very decent odds of being right
Ok. If you are so confident, would you agree that if one of your chosen suspects is limmed and turns town, then you should and would be limmed next day?
i'll admit, this one is the most iffy post snow made, but still, there's an attempt to keep people accountable, i kinda like it
In post 402, Snow2697 wrote:
Cakez called Ausuka, Psyche and Layla as towns and Gypyx as scum. These four and Robert are ready to lim him.
So, on Cakez' own case he should be limmed. He should have a better excuse than to say that his role requires him not to be limmed for 2 full days.
I can also hammer if needed, but Psyche seems to want more information, so will wait for a while.
This is snow's biggest attempt at generating his own reads and like, i doubt scum!snow feels the need to make this post? Basically it's a bit too convoluted to be a fabrication by scum!snow when there was a lot of steps he could choose to go through before
In post 396, Snow2697 wrote:
Well. N2 watcher means that a player should leave for 2 full days and nights to report on D3 be helpful to the town, yes? When there are potentially 3 towns and 2 scums, so an ELo?
kinda mindmelded with that and like, i think scum!snow would be self conscious enough to *not* deliberately choose to copy what i've said previously
In the meantime, I think the only way we achieve confidence about aureal-town is through poe, or if she goes out of her way to lead a wagon that flips scum of course.
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Post #498 (isolation #56) » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:42 pm
Postby Gypyx »
Not like i'm opposed to the idea of taking a proper look at Ausuka (i've been coasting on my vibes for a while) but like, HPE's entrance isn't especially towny?
there's also this weird thing where it expresses a townread on Layla, when this slot is like, dead
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Post #511 (isolation #58) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:09 am
Postby Gypyx »
In post 507, Psyche wrote:
think scum gypx is capable of seeing the value in pushing a snowtown case at this step in the game though yeah it has town equity
I think my scumgame is still as the level where i'm basically stumbling around but maybe i'd be able to do that yeah, if only for seeing the value in pushing a towncase i'd read as realistic
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Post #515 (isolation #59) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:50 pm
Postby Gypyx »
In post 514, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Also Gypyx will get her own special creature feature. Going to try so so hard to actually live up to my ISO analysis promises this game.