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Post Post #2350  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:24 am

VOTE: aella
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Post Post #2351  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:24 am

In post 2345, Leonshade wrote:Scumpool still the same. RS looks like he's just playing up his VI antics now.

VOTE: RagingSpammers


There are a bunch of roles with a modifier/2 parts. I'm not moving my vote. Bring us into mylo if we must but rs will be my mylo pick anyways

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Post Post #2352  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:56 am

In post 2287, Leonshade wrote:Credit: Snake.

Alive
lane0168 - Town Innocent Child
Not_Mafia - Neighbor 1-Shot Role Cop (Greta)
RagingSpammers (Cloudkicker + Alisae) - Day 2 Double Voter (Bentley)
Leonshade - Conditional Modified Global Voyeur (Sparx)
Flubbernugget - Two-Shot Watcher
massive - Doc-Giver
Infinity 324 - Even-Night Roleblocker (Sgt. Byrd)
Ælla Was Spine (Lycanfire + Vifam) - One-Shot commuter (Sheila)

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TheRealGin-N-Tonic - Town Neighbor 1-Shot Role Cop (Handel)
SirCakez - Evil Amnesiac Tracker and Night 3 Strongman (The Sorceress)
MagnaofIllusion - Town Even-Night Roleblocker (Agent 9)
RadiantCowbells - Anon Messenger (Zoe)
eagerSnake - Town One-Shot Strongman Vigilante (Spyro)

Who WAS the investigate? If Flubber used a doc instead.

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Post Post #2353  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:58 am

I don't fucking know. It could be anyone. It could be flubber. He only claimed watching people we already knew. I'm coming around on the strongman theory I think

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Post Post #2354  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:01 pm

Rs is playing some weird ass defense mechanism playing that we will think scum would never act like a complete fucking idiot. But why would town? Why would town be a total fuck bag and not contribute anything today? She doesn't know who to push with so many pretty much confirmed town

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Post Post #2355  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:17 pm

I would like to hear everyone give their read on RS, they seem to be mostly getting ignored by everyone except lane and me.
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Post Post #2356  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:19 pm

Well, and N_M.

RC wanted him vigged, too. Snake claimed that this was his town game D1, but I'm not sure if his read changed. I can't remember what Magna thought of the slot.
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Post Post #2357  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:26 pm

And Cakez townread me for some reason, LOL
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Post Post #2358  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:18 pm

In post 2356, Leonshade wrote:Well, and N_M.

RC wanted him vigged, too. Snake claimed that this was his town game D1, but I'm not sure if his read changed. I can't remember what Magna thought of the slot.


Magna was on infinity and cakez for the most part

RC was on infinity and rs at the end.

I have reasons to vote too many people right now

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Post Post #2359  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:23 pm

VOTE: aella

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Post Post #2360  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:47 pm

Wouldn't hate a votecount. I'm not sold on not-Flubber today but I could possibly move to Spammers.
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Post Post #2361  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:49 pm

Massive what do you think of Aella?
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Post Post #2362  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:53 pm

And then I get the feeling that scum would have a rolecop... And spammers has been a pretty much consistent scum read for several people the whole game

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Post Post #2363  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:54 pm

All town people so far

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Post Post #2364  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:54 pm

But I could go infinity or flubber too

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Post Post #2365  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:55 pm

Unless town rs is actively trying to throw the game, they're scum

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Post Post #2366  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:21 pm

So my interest in this game has been pretty much gone since the quickhammer in day 2.

Even looking at this game is making me sick-it's like Steven Universe 2 all over again, except this time I pulled Vifam into the suit instead of being pulled in. So it's worse.

Our hydra pt is pretty much dead and our slot is lynchbait. Pretend I haven't read the last 20 pages outside of a skim to see if we were lynched. What do you want right now?

One of my scumtells on Cakez (beyond shading Eager) was that he was making fakeposts like

- gin has a really shaky vote on eager over him being lynchbait. i thought this was behaviorally consistent because gin was talking about helping people improve through good play w/alisae earlier. but the unvote and the "i don't believe [spyro claim]" looks shitty. only because it's over the top in proportion to his read (not liking the "i'm lynchbait" thing)

- if cakez is scum, gin is town imo. it looks like cakez is trying hard to find a town response here and chose very poorly in echoing gin.

- post that would spawn a millions memes

- it felt like cakez was doing the same "what would a townie post be" and mimicked RS.


Which is why I said a "Cakez lynch would help sort Gin [who is freaking me out] but I want Leon blah blah" in an earlier post. Vifam had been driving the votes outside of the one I made on Leon and we were both happy with them given what we knew. I have other notes about RS (that quick CC was way too fast to be a calculated effort to get townpoints, for instance) but I had in my notes preflip that these two weren't teammates, and the flip made me more comfortable in that. Still pissed about the quickhammer, but since I didn't read RC as RC I should probably read Alisae as Alisae.

I feel like lane|nm|RS are suretown. Before I commit to a vote I have a question.

If lane didn't die, and eager did, AND flubber AND massive collaborate their story via docgive AND flubber is telling the truth regarding watch [that Cakez tracked lane]... How did the scumteam get that information before Cakez died?


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Post Post #2367  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:25 pm

Also it's important to note that I felt this way about Cakez' scumplay because wait for it... Steven Universe 2

i'm going to be sick


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Post Post #2368  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:27 pm

wtf is this "read Alisae as Alisae" shit?
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Post Post #2369  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:29 pm

I think you're so bad at mafia that you would actually second guess yourself before you did something that stupid if you rolled scum.


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Post Post #2370  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:36 pm

In post 2361, RagingSpammers wrote:Massive what do you think of Aella?
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I had vifam-town but that was a long time ago and I don't know if there are enough data points to feel 100% about that.
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Post Post #2371  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:05 pm

In post 2142, Leonshade wrote:
Spoiler: Response to Lycan's case
In post 1658, Ælla Was Spine wrote:I have TRs on eager, RS, NM, flubber


Where does the TR on NM come from? Would also like to hear about the RS TR.

My main scumread is Leon

-disliked cakez and leon's rolefishing of eager (why are you voting him if you're a vig?)


I thought the vig claim was fake, there was dissonance between the vote and the claim.

-781 was a flat post. "worthy of pressure" is probably the most bland, least proactive way to give consent to a wagon. it felt like more of an observation than an attempt to further the game. really dislike continued shade of RS. like why even bring up the lurker slot if gun to your head RS is scum. just say let's talk about RS.


The RS wagon was winding down at that point and I was starting to doubt the read. ProHawk was a lurker who had just replaced out, I thought that Gin's case on him warranted more pressure, but with the pending replacement pressuring them was impossible. What kind of strong reaction would you expect me to have to a lurker?

And how is it shading RS when my vote was on him at the time, and he was my top SR?

-819 is a weak shade post, it was so bad that i left a snarky comment in hydra pt over it.


I don't see how I'm throwing shade at anyone in this post?

[spoiler=Leon's 819]
In post 819, Leonshade wrote:
In post 737, RagingSpammers wrote:That's a new one.
In that case go ahead and talk to me about people. Here, I'll give you something to work with.

{Snakey, Lane}
{Leon, E&A}
{Flubber}
{MoI, Cakez, NM}
{ProHawk, Massive}
{Gin, Aella}


Explain your TR on me here. Especially in the context of this vote:

In post 784, RagingSpammers wrote:
In post 781, Leonshade wrote:I'll catch up later today, I also need to re-read RS's ISO with an open mind.
You want to know what would really make this seem genuine?
An unvote.
You want to know why?
Becuase if it was genuine, you would have unvoted so that you could read my ISO with an open mind without having to worried about me getting hammered, because I'm currently at L-2. And then once having re-read, put your vote back on if you so desired.
VOTE: Leonshade
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It's better for me to have my vote out there than unvote just to possibly vote you again. You getting quickhammered at L-2 is unlikely, and it would reflect poorly on the hammerer. And honestly, you getting hammered is not something I would spend time "worrying" about, between the associative tells from the wagon and not having to figure you out it would make the game easier in a way.


-but it's worth noting that lane did the exact same thing with post 826.


Is everyone who scumreads someone just "throwing shade"? Or just if it's about someone you TR?[/spoiler]

First half of Lycan's case, I never got around to finishing it.

In post 2144, Leonshade wrote:
-859 shade making a leon post


I don't see who I'm shading in this post, I'm commenting on how massive's play doesn't differ from his town game:

Spoiler: Leon's 859
In post 859, Leonshade wrote:
In post 824, massive wrote:
In post 821, Leonshade wrote:Who's scum?

I don't know. Still OK with my vote on Spammers. Maybe Not_Mafia. I think Magna is town, and AElla (this looks similar to vifam-town). Probably need a bit to get a handle on Cakez and Flubber. And I need to not forget that you tricked me in the last game we played together. I can't decide whether FA wants me to townread her because she's treating me like shit, but that play lost us Villains U-Pick, so YMMV.


Explain your townread on Magna. You had to ask what scum!Magna looks like, so what makes you think this isn't scum!Magna?

In post 829, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 824, massive wrote:
In post 821, Leonshade wrote:Who's scum?

I don't know. Still OK with my vote on Spammers. Maybe Not_Mafia. I think Magna is town, and AElla (this looks similar to vifam-town). Probably need a bit to get a handle on Cakez and Flubber. And I need to not forget that you tricked me in the last game we played together. I can't decide whether FA wants me to townread her because she's treating me like shit, but that play lost us Villains U-Pick, so YMMV.


Scumposting.

10 town points to whoever explains why without me having to


The reads look non-committal. I'm not sure that's a scumtell for massive, though, never known him to have strong opinions early on.


-869 i feel like i scumslipped, so i'm going to double down on it! ~leon. literally didn't think he was scumslipping there because of how dumb it would be, so acknowledging a mistake here looks awful on leon.


Even lane didn't think I was scumslipping. It seems like you're latching onto lane's case with weaker reasoning.

-between posts 890 and 931 he made another shade post i don't care enough to find it because i'm too busy laughing


Discrediting and throwing shade at an undefined post. I had two posts between 890 and 931, I don't see the shade here:

Spoiler: Leon's posts
In post 899, Leonshade wrote:
In post 889, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 869, Leonshade wrote:Gin is the first townread I had, without checking I'm pretty sure I expressed it within my first few posts. Where have I claimed that I'm backing off because of Snake's meta? I started having doubts because I'm not sure the weird CC-gambit, more specifically bringing attention to it when no one noticed, doesn't make much sense for scum.


So you are saying you identified Gin pretty much immediately and haven’t had any reason at all to even think about that read?

Here is you said on the RS matter …


Yes. Do you find that hard to believe?

I assume you meant to add a quote here? P-edit: You did.

In post 889, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 869, Leonshade wrote:"Quite possibly" scum? I'm quite possibly scum every game, do you think my claim increases the chances of me being scum? No one has claimed that my claim makes me town (well, Vifam did, but that was about my decision to claim, not the thing I'm claiming), so it's not like you're refuting some false notion.


Of course I think it increases the chances you are scum. I would not have brought it up if I didn’t. Given TTH’s Mod history the way you claimed said knowledge slots to a similar style role. Is it damning? By no means. You aren’t my top scum read currently which is why I am not voting you. But that claim alone put you on my radar and made me look more closely at your posting in my re-read.


Hmm, okay then.

In post 889, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 869, Leonshade wrote:I didn't even realize town faction was called "loyal to Spyro" until you mentioned it.


So let me be clear on this – you read you Role PM closely enough to know that Spyro was confirmed to be in the game to you but not closely enough to notice the Town wincon which specificly states that Town is “Loyal to Spyro”? And likewise missed completely?


One is part of my role, the other is part of the wincon which is usually generic. I forgot because it's not important information, I'm sure I'm not the only one. Same with post 2.

In post 902, Leonshade wrote:
In post 890, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 889, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Here is you said on the RS matter …


Apparently I lost a paragraph in my last post … anyway here is what was supposed to be right after the above text …

In post 781, Leonshade wrote:Yesterday jumbled my scumreads, so that's it for my reads list right now. Gun to my head RS is still scum, but if people with meta are saying this is their usual playstyle, I need to take a closer look at the slot.


So this is the “transitioning” I talked about – saying “RS is still a scum read but other players have meta so I need to re-read”. I don’t personally give two shakes of a dragon’s tail of players (specifically Eager) say “I’ve played with both these people as Town and this is it”. That’s complete half-assed meta and nto worth me even factoring into my own reads.


Side note: I enjoy your flavor-related colloquialisms.

Snake isn't the only one, Gin is conflicted on whether this is RS's town play too. And the "transitioning" occurred earlier, see . Realizing that RS's play might not make sense for scum is what got me to reconsider. I need to re-read to see if there's scum motivation or if I was just scumreading a lynchbaity playstyle.


So Lycan's case on me relies on a lot of buzzwords that at best vaguely connect to the posts they're accusing, especially since Lycan doesn't bother to explain how the posts are scummy in the ways he mentioned. It's not a case that comes from a town player.


Lycan, I'd like a response to some of the above.
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Post Post #2372  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:07 pm

In post 2366, Ælla Was Spine wrote:Before I commit to a vote I have a question.

If lane didn't die, and eager did, AND flubber AND massive collaborate their story via docgive AND flubber is telling the truth regarding watch [that Cakez tracked lane]... How did the scumteam get that information before Cakez died?

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What information? And why the rhetorical question instead of laying down a vote and accusing someone?
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Post Post #2373  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:09 pm

In post 2366, Ælla Was Spine wrote:So my interest in this game has been pretty much gone since the quickhammer in day 2.

Even looking at this game is making me sick-it's like Steven Universe 2 all over again, except this time I pulled Vifam into the suit instead of being pulled in. So it's worse.

Our hydra pt is pretty much dead and our slot is lynchbait. Pretend I haven't read the last 20 pages outside of a skim to see if we were lynched. What do you want right now?

One of my scumtells on Cakez (beyond shading Eager) was that he was making fakeposts like

- gin has a really shaky vote on eager over him being lynchbait. i thought this was behaviorally consistent because gin was talking about helping people improve through good play w/alisae earlier. but the unvote and the "i don't believe [spyro claim]" looks shitty. only because it's over the top in proportion to his read (not liking the "i'm lynchbait" thing)

- if cakez is scum, gin is town imo. it looks like cakez is trying hard to find a town response here and chose very poorly in echoing gin.

- post that would spawn a millions memes

- it felt like cakez was doing the same "what would a townie post be" and mimicked RS.


Which is why I said a "Cakez lynch would help sort Gin [who is freaking me out] but I want Leon blah blah" in an earlier post. Vifam had been driving the votes outside of the one I made on Leon and we were both happy with them given what we knew. I have other notes about RS (that quick CC was way too fast to be a calculated effort to get townpoints, for instance) but I had in my notes preflip that these two weren't teammates, and the flip made me more comfortable in that. Still pissed about the quickhammer, but since I didn't read RC as RC I should probably read Alisae as Alisae.

I feel like lane|nm|RS are suretown. Before I commit to a vote I have a question.

If lane didn't die, and eager did, AND flubber AND massive collaborate their story via docgive AND flubber is telling the truth regarding watch [that Cakez tracked lane]... How did the scumteam get that information before Cakez died?


-lycan


Cakez tracked massive, but what are you asking? What information?

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Post Post #2374  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:13 pm

In post 2265, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 2257, Leonshade wrote:Flubber, what's your role?

2-shot watcher

Cakez visited Lane n1

Not claiming my second visit yet


Cakez tracked massive... I just got the result... It's this what aella is taking about?

So I think this actually caught flubber in a lie?

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