Chuck Season 1 - GAME OVER

[mikeburnfire]

A random vote that is certifiably random is not really helpful.

[Mastermind of Sin]

That's why it's a random vote...they aren't supposed to be helpful, or they wouldn't be random.

[ReaperCharlie]

Okay, RC, I'll play along on the condition that I may backstab you when it tickles my fancy.

You may. That is the point of an Alliance, isn't it? To backstab each other?


MoS, can you please read the thread and give us some reads? Your posts have been generally contentless thus far.


Ant's #302 was cool and pro-town. You are invited to the Alliance. Please confirm or deny your membership in your next post.

[ReaperCharlie]

Alliance Status:

Current members:

ReaperCharlie
MarchHare

Current rules:

No voting any other Alliance members
Vote how the Alliance tells you to vote

[Energetic Penguin]

Mastermind, you're wrong. The RVS is where people generally prod one another and a random wagon comes up. then we may get some reads and some serious discussion is born out of it. Your vote is actually random whereas during the RVS they may be dumb reasons or mostly nonexistant but only semi random. If you let us know its random it diminishes its point even further. Given you did this after people had said noteworthy things is quite scummy. You have also so far managed to post no game related content. Why do you not want to comment on anything that's happened?

@Dana: MoS is definitely an active lurker. Any reason you're not concerned with him?

[Energetic Penguin]

HEY RC, any way I can join this alliance?

[Thor665]

If there is one thing that is a pet peeve of mine, it's people reading something into a random vote as if it was anything but a random vote. Don't make me hate you forever.

I am your pet peeve personified - hate away.
My pet peeve is people suggesting any votes in this game somehow aren't evidence. Also - lack of votes is evidence.

@RC - The Town Alliance looks like one scum, and one questionable. I'm out.

@MBF - Fluff accusations after MoS managed to (continue) to slide by for claiming 'lol, fluff'? Meh. How about you vote dana or MarchHare - or do you have townreads there?

[danakillsu]

Mastermind, you're wrong. The RVS is where people generally prod one another and a random wagon comes up. then we may get some reads and some serious discussion is born out of it. Your vote is actually random whereas during the RVS they may be dumb reasons or mostly nonexistant but only semi random. If you let us know its random it diminishes its point even further. Given you did this after people had said noteworthy things is quite scummy. You have also so far managed to post no game related content. Why do you not want to comment on anything that's happened?

@Dana: MoS is definitely an active lurker. Any reason you're not concerned with him?

Not concerned with him? I haven't attacked him or anything, but I certainly haven't said I'm not concerned with him at all. Active lurking is fairly common on this site, so you can't necessarily attack all the active lurkers in the game at the same time. It's not easy to really put pressure on a bunch of people at once, so I've really been concentrating on the scummier active lurker MarchHare.

[Energetic Penguin]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

[Mastermind of Sin]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

I didn't say anything about fluff...

[Mastermind of Sin]

Mastermind, you're wrong. The RVS is where people generally prod one another and a random wagon comes up. then we may get some reads and some serious discussion is born out of it. Your vote is actually random whereas during the RVS they may be dumb reasons or mostly nonexistant but only semi random. If you let us know its random it diminishes its point even further. Given you did this after people had said noteworthy things is quite scummy. You have also so far managed to post no game related content. Why do you not want to comment on anything that's happened?

@Dana: MoS is definitely an active lurker. Any reason you're not concerned with him?

I don't generally bother to read the thread before making a random vote. What would be the point in that?

[Energetic Penguin]

but even after your random vote you have nothing relevant to say. This is pretty close,

Perhaps if you guys didn't spam up the topic so much, it would be worth MoS's time.

This.

[danakillsu]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

Pfffff. I like how you didn't bother to respond to what I actually said and just drew the conclusions I knew you were going for anyway. You have nothing there but a presupposition.
I disagree that MarchHare is really looking for scum. He is not trying any more than MoS, he's just better at making it look good. Even after I said that his one-line posts were not helping anything, he continued to make them. How can you call that pro-town? March is scummier for reasons I have already stated. He actually has enough content in his posts to peg him as likely scum, whereas MoS just looks like someone that does that sort of thing all the time.

[ReaperCharlie]

@RC - The Town Alliance looks like one scum, and one questionable. I'm out.

That's the entire point. There are supposed to be players of mixed levels of perceived town-ness, so that everyone keeps a healthy level of suspicion.

Also, more members = stronger town, in every single game I've played. Last game I ran an alliance in (usurped, actually, after I showed the leader to be scum and he was daykilled by a third-party) was a large, and we got a 9-1 endgame in which I correctly pegged the final scum out of 10 players, for the glorious win.

If you are town, join. You won't regret it. If you are scum, you should still join, because it increases my chances of winning!

[Energetic Penguin]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

Pfffff. I like how you didn't bother to respond to what I actually said and just drew the conclusions I knew you were going for anyway. You have nothing there but a presupposition.
I disagree that MarchHare is really looking for scum. He is not trying any more than MoS, he's just better at making it look good. Even after I said that his one-line posts were not helping anything, he continued to make them. How can you call that pro-town? March is scummier for reasons I have already stated. He actually has enough content in his posts to peg him as likely scum, whereas MoS just looks like someone that does that sort of thing all the time.

You're attacking him for playstyle reasons. There's nothing inherently scummy about one line posts. Just because you tell him its scummy does not make it so. March siad the MBF wagon was terribad. So other than him derailing a wagon and making 1-line posts (which isn't scummy) what is this content that incriminates him?

@RC: you didnt answer me. Can I join the alliance?

[Mastermind of Sin]

but even after your random vote you have nothing relevant to say. This is pretty close,

Perhaps if you guys didn't spam up the topic so much, it would be worth MoS's time.

This.

When I see something worth commenting on I will.

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh, MoS...


@EP: No. Whoever asks to join the Alliance is auto-denied. But why do you want to join the Alliance?
Please wax eloquent on this, I will not accept an answer like: "*shrug* I thought it would be cool"

[danakillsu]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

Pfffff. I like how you didn't bother to respond to what I actually said and just drew the conclusions I knew you were going for anyway. You have nothing there but a presupposition.
I disagree that MarchHare is really looking for scum. He is not trying any more than MoS, he's just better at making it look good. Even after I said that his one-line posts were not helping anything, he continued to make them. How can you call that pro-town? March is scummier for reasons I have already stated. He actually has enough content in his posts to peg him as likely scum, whereas MoS just looks like someone that does that sort of thing all the time.

You're attacking him for playstyle reasons. There's nothing inherently scummy about one line posts. Just because you tell him its scummy does not make it so. March siad the MBF wagon was terribad. So other than him derailing a wagon and making 1-line posts (which isn't scummy) what is this content that incriminates him?

@RC: you didnt answer me. Can I join the alliance?

I can't even describe how bad this post is. On the other hand, despite the fact that you can go back and read what I have posted about MarchHare, thinking about it more has changed my mind. There probably are better people to vote for right now and not having to defend my arguments against misrep would have helped me realize that sooner.

unvote

Time to shop for a different scum candidate, since this guy's response to pressure apparently convinced no one but me.

[Energetic Penguin]

I'm sorry but my answer looks something like "*shrug* I thought it would be cool"

I've never seen an alliance in a mafia game and I thought it would be fun.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm sorry but my answer looks something like "*shrug* I thought it would be cool"

I've never seen an alliance in a mafia game and I thought it would be fun.

/facepalm

"Don't make me destrooooy you."



...

Also, was just ISOing dana because he's scummy as heck.

Tell me his ISO posts #4 and #5 aren't completely scummy and contradictory.

Thor is acting town now. Are we done with the random wagon on him yet?

Bad wagon.

Please wax eloquent to me on why you are pushing it.

How the hell is "Bad wagon" a dodgy answer?

He's not scummy.

It's a bad wagon because he's not scummy.

The objective is to lynch scum. Therefore, lynching players who are not scummy is bad.

This is not a hard concept.

There's no particularly good lynch at this point in time. We are five fucking pages into the game, two of which are almost exclusively one-on-one interactions.

He really is doing little other than attempting to derail weak wagons, despite admitting that all wagons will be weak at this stage in the game. I rest my case.

SEE WHAT HE DID THERE?? lol

And now *I* rest *MY* case.

Open and shut, fellas.

Unvote; Vote: danakillsu

[Energetic Penguin]

UNVOTE: MoS
VOTE: Danakillsu

[PeregrineV]

Since I am not yet assured of the intentions of RC, I can't fully agree with his case on Dana, although I might be interested in hearing more.

EP is sounding remarkably reasonable. And, another point of posting is to generate conversation, not wait until it is turned to you.

Unvote. Vote: Mastermind of Sin

[ReaperCharlie]

Since I am not yet assured of the intentions of RC, I can't fully agree with his case on Dana, although I might be interested in hearing more.

EP is sounding remarkably reasonable. And, another point of posting is to generate conversation, not wait until it is turned to you.

Unvote. Vote: Mastermind of Sin

My intentions are to lynch scum.

Also, you misspelled danakillsu.

[danakillsu]

UNVOTE: MoS
VOTE: Danakillsu

Ahahahaha. This is the most cowardly vote I've seen in any game of mafia. You apparently didn't think strongly enough that I was scum to vote until someone else agreed with you. Nice one.

@ ReaperCharlie
Yes, I said that Thor was town and asked if the random wagon was over. That's not an attempt to derail the wagon, it's a challenge to people to explain why it's not random or get off it. No one felt like doing the former.

[ChannelDelibird]

And, another point of posting is to generate conversation, not wait until it is turned to you.

Confirm Vote: PeregrineV