Mystic Mafia [Endgame]

[pirate mollie]

i was prime mislynch bait and got myself nightkilled instead.

lying worked

.

a good lesson for children.

Its okay to post from your alt

[drealmerz7]

again, it's a conceptual thing about the unforseen concequences of deceit actually not serving in the long run even though you see immediate payoff and justify it for those immediate payoffs

[Nahdia]

my deceit had nothing to do with the fact that mollie didn't see the guilty, dude.

[Nahdia]

something you should understand because you didn't see the guilty either.

[pirate mollie]

Fate's point: the roleswap which got me to be NK'd while being mislynch bait caused a player who failed to notice something in particular to live longer than one who noticed one of the mafia members was confirmed.

Your point: Town shouldn't lie, there are non-lying ways to achieve being NK'd as mislynch bait. which has nothing to do with anything about what Fate said.

I am sorry I missed desp's guilty

[drealmerz7]

uhg

I'm not talking about that specifically

the point is a conceptual thing, what is so hard to understand about that?

[drealmerz7]

actually I think I saw it and immediatley disregarded it because it didn't make any sense and it made me reconsider you as possible scum

[pirate mollie]

i was prime mislynch bait and got myself nightkilled instead.

lying worked

.

a good lesson for children.

Its okay to post from your alt

[Nahdia]

if there's a point to be made against what I did, it's "don't sacrifice yourself for another slot you're sure is town; if you want a job done right you have to do it yourself."

has nothing to do with the manner in which i sacrificed myself. you yourself said there were better ways to achieve exactly what i did achieve, which would have had the same negative result, independent of my lie. the two aren't related at all.

actually I think I saw it and immediatley disregarded it because it didn't make any sense and it made me reconsider you as possible scum

I WAS DEAD.

Fate's point: the roleswap which got me to be NK'd while being mislynch bait caused a player who failed to notice something in particular to live longer than one who noticed one of the mafia members was confirmed.

Your point: Town shouldn't lie, there are non-lying ways to achieve being NK'd as mislynch bait. which has nothing to do with anything about what Fate said.

I am sorry I missed desp's guilty

shit happens.

[Nahdia]

IT WAS A COP GUILTY. WITH A DEAD TOWN COP. AND A DEAD TOWN WHO VOUCHED FOR THE GUILTY.

[Nahdia]

dude are u high or something

[drealmerz7]

then I am confused what you are talking about but that doesn't matter to my point at all which is what I keep tring to say

I don't know how what I'm trying to say is not getting through other than you being focused on that aspect of things because you're excited about what it did

I'm talking about something CONCEPTUAL

I don't know how many times to say it

[Nahdia]

conceptual meaningless trash, maybe. you don't actually have a point ur just super desperate to be right when it's crystal clear you're actually clueless as fuck.

[Firebringer]

Is mollie implying Drealmerz is my alt?

[drealmerz7]

it has nothing to do with me being right, that is what you are doing!!!!!! I am trying to have a discussion about how I think something can be done better, and you refuse to accept the possibility!

[Firebringer]

Frankly both of you are wrong.
I am right.

[pirate mollie]

Nahdia, You are right. You are much better than me.

I am sorry I went along with it.

I think you cld have pulled out a win.

[drealmerz7]

but you're failing to understand what I'm getting at in the first place and I don't know why

it's simple:

things could have gone BETTER if you didn't do what you did, how you can you not see that possibility?

[Nahdia]

Nahdia, You are right. You are much better than me.

I am sorry I went along with it.

I think you cld have pulled out a win.

nononono, i could have made the same mistake you did, honestly. i still think the call i made was right, since you were conftown as soon as you claimed. i was just explaining the one potential counterarguing i see as valid to what i did.

[Fate]

but what she's saying is that it was objectively good play to maximize town's win chance

or at least that's how I seee it

you're looking at things in retrospect dreamer, which I did in one post to give her sass but you're harping on it.

Things could've gone better if a LOT of players didnt DO WHAT THEY DID

[camn]

I'm not against town lying in general.
I was against Kats lying in this case.

And Nahdia- we were a real protective role.
I thought about cc-ing you... But your flavor didn't actually contradict ours. That's why I had so many questions. It did get me thinking about many different kill flavors though...Since we defended against 2, and you against another. Luckily Fate sucks at flavor consistency
And mollie - that's why we weren't claiming. Claiming Doc without pressure? I can't do it, generally.

But for real... In LYLO with 2 townies who missed/ignored hard guilties? I shouldn't have let it come to that. That was our biggest mistake. drealz should have been policy lynched instead of Staeg. And I should have supported a Kagami/Mollie throwdown to sort the slots. Kagami really had me fooled though, and Mollie was obvtown.

[pirate mollie]

but you're failing to understand what I'm getting at in the first place and I don't know why

it's simple:

things could have gone BETTER if you didn't do what you did, how you can you not see that possibility?

Things cld have been better if you didn't block the cop.

Leave nahdia alone

Eta: where are all of the guilties that fate did not delete

[Nahdia]

my reads are frequently absolute trash, just look at defcon 4.0. i think getting myself killed in favor of putting a conftownie in lylo was def better than taking a gamble on my reads.

@camn well i literally just claimed mollie's role exactly as it is. so it's not like my claim was ever gonna be "unrealistic" for the town to have.

[camn]

And yeah, drealz...You have no grounds to advise anyone on this.
You were town, but you made some really bad choices, all excuses aside. We did TOO, don't get me wrong.
But, like..
You blocked us, right? That led to both Despo and Nahdia dying.

@nahdia- I guess that's why it made sense!

[Nahdia]

well, actually no i didnt. i claimed unlimited doctor rather than 2-shot doctor. so yeah i guess maybe it could have been framed as too powerful if you outted.