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Post Post #1075  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:26 pm

VOTE: Dunnstral

What's with the quickhammer?

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Post Post #1076  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:27 pm

I can explain that actually

Though I don't know why zito didn't die

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Post Post #1077  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:28 pm

I'll start from the beginning, i have a lot to go over

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Post Post #1078  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:34 pm

I'll cut in, since I'm about to go to bed and this finally opened.

I used to have a piece of the orb, the north piece, which I gave away last nigh. Orb pieces can be transferred by being given as a night action, or to one's killer if the holder is killed, or to the hammerer if one is lynched.

The orb peeve came with no instructions, but I imagine we're not supposed to let scum collect them.

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Post Post #1079  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:35 pm

Just read my pms, btw. Interesting.

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Post Post #1080  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:36 pm

At the start of the game, I received a fragment of the true orb; the southern fragment of fire. This wasn't something related to my role, and I only got it once the game had officially begun

For reference, here is some flavor talk about the orb:
viewtopic.php?p=8665402#p8665402
viewtopic.php?p=8702809#p8702809

Now, being the southern fragment of fire, it's natural to assume that there are other fragments, which is almost certainly 4 total fragments.

I do not know anything about what these do, I just know how they're moved around. I assume something happens if all 4 are gathered.
If somebody is killed while holding a fragment, it goes to the killer, if they are lynched it goes to the person who placed the hammer vote. Additionally, they can send the fragment to somebody else during the night.
I should have maybe mentioned this yesterday, but you should probably treat l-2 as if it's l-1, and know who's going to be placing the hammer. It won't be easy taking fragments from scum.

Now, here is the weirdness about drealmerz: he pretty obviously softed to having a fragment around day start

Spoiler:
In post 68, drealmerz7 wrote:Image

we must combine our minds to see True


I don't think he'd do that as scum

Kagami wrote:I'll cut in, since I'm about to go to bed and this finally opened.

I used to have a piece of the orb, the north piece, which I gave away last nigh. Orb pieces can be transferred by being given as a night action, or to one's killer if the holder is killed, or to the hammerer if one is lynched.

The orb peeve came with no instructions, but I imagine we're not supposed to let scum collect them.


:facepalm:

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Post Post #1081  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:45 pm

It it compulsive to give them away?

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Post Post #1082  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:47 pm

Anyways, nacho is scum on his own rights but with the orb knowledge you'll see that he has more info than he's letting on.

Here's his reads:

In post 882, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 878, pirate mollie wrote:who are the 3 you want lynched again

Drrream/Nahdia/Dunn.


Innocent enough at first glance, albeit bad. But they're not. He's been leading lynches on people he believed to hold fragments.

Here's the proof for each:

Drealmerz:

Spoiler:
In post 68, drealmerz7 wrote:Image

we must combine our minds to see True


Obvious soft about combining true


Dunnstral:

Spoiler:
In post 71, Dunnstral wrote:I bet drealmerz thinks he's witty, clever, and secretive


But you're not. The rest of us know exactly what you're talking about. You know what you must do. As do I.

In post 72, Dunnstral wrote:Such is the price we pay for power


I thought it was obvious enough but I'm not sure if Kagami would have caught on. I wanted drealmerz to give his fragment away


Nahdia:

Spoiler:
In post 239, Nahdia wrote:In conclusion:

Suck. My. Dick. RedCoyote.
Dunnstral wrote:Why did you vote me nahdia?
Why not? I reviewed all the slots and decided I wanted to vote you. But fear not. For now the coyote has shown its true colors. Or, true color; red. Red like the pen of an high school teacher grading the algebra test of a soon-to-be drop out. Because he's wrong. Or maybe it's the red of mafia. That's also possible.


basically here Nahdia says "true" twice then repeats red a bunch. Considering the elements associated with the fragments, it's not unreasonable for someone in nacho's position to assume nahdia was softing the fragment of fire. But I'm the one who had it, so I know this is just a coincidence instead of an actual soft. What's important is, Nacho was actively seeking this.


Really interested in seeing what Nacho says. Wondering what his motive could be. I'm not willing to believe it's all a coincidence.

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Post Post #1083  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:47 pm

In post 1081, camntsuki wrote:It it compulsive to give them away?


no

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Post Post #1084  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:50 pm

man kagami had to ruin my vibe here

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Post Post #1085  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:52 pm

Was Nahdia the fourth? I'm not buying that crumb fully.
I agree 4 fragments:
In post 2, Fate wrote:The orb split off into the four directions.


And are you saying you thought Zito might have a fragment, and you wanted it, thus the hammer?
Why did you want dreamerz to give away his shard?

Also- what happens if you get the orb?

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Post Post #1086  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:55 pm

In post 1085, camntsuki wrote:Was Nahdia the fourth? I'm not buying that crumb fully.


I'm almost certain nahdia does not have a fragment.

What matters is, nacho would have reason to believe they did.

camntsuki wrote:Also- what happens if you get the orb?


I was not told anything about combining or orb, I can only assume.

camntsuki wrote:And are you saying you thought Zito might have a fragment, and you wanted it, thus the hammer?


It was a possibility, though there was nothing to make me think he had it. I also didn't want the lynch to flip back to drealmerz who I was pretty sure was town and would have had to explain the whole fragment thing day 1. Part of it was to secure a fragment if there was one, however

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Post Post #1087  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:56 pm

My theory is that scum started with at least 1 fragment so they'd know what's going on

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Post Post #1088  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:59 pm

VOTE: camn

So that explains a lot with some of the teehee yesterday.

Is the goal simply to reunite the parts or have something done with them.

I'm on record right now that i have 0 to do with orb madness
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Post Post #1089  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:59 pm

First off, Dunn, you have officially got my attention. I'm buying into your story at first glance and it totally is starting to make sense why you and Nahdia seemed so weird around each other if what you are saying is correct. I tend to believe it.

Second, what makes you think that both Nacho has sinister intentions and that he deliberately chose you three for his antagonism? It should be noted that my three picks for lynch yesterday were the same as Nacho.

Third, did you aquire another piece of the orb?

Fourth, PZ has significantly moved up my town list with that no lynch from yesterday.

Fifth,

Dunn wrote:I'm almost certain nahdia does not have a fragment.


HUH?

If Nahdia doesn't have a fragment, what was with all the 'true' talk you just referenced in ?

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Post Post #1090  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:03 am

In post 1089, RedCoyote wrote:why you and Nahdia seemed so weird around each other


no... that's got nothing to do with it, I don't think nahdia has a fragment and I didn't realize what nacho would have been after until the night

It's why I've been "weird" about drealmerz

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Post Post #1091  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:04 am

In post 1089, RedCoyote wrote:If Nahdia doesn't have a fragment, what was with all the 'true' talk you just referenced in 1082?


Look at it from nacho's pov. I'm explaining why he's scum/knows more than he's letting on, and showing how he would arrive to the conclusion "nahdia has the fragment"

I can come to a very different conclusion because I had the fragment of fire, while nahdia was saying red

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Post Post #1092  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:05 am

I don't understand. If you don't think Nahdia holds a fragment, why was she dropping the 'true' hints?

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Post Post #1093  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:06 am

Let me put it another way, what makes you think Nahdia isn't scum trying to sniff out for other people with fragments to poach from? Because she didn't vote you?

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Post Post #1094  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:06 am

In post 1089, RedCoyote wrote:Third, did you aquire another piece of the orb?


What are you asking here?

Zito wasn't lynched in the first place

if you're asking if somebody else gave me another piece of the orb: no comment.

RedCoyote wrote:
Fourth, PZ has significantly moved up my town list with that no lynch from yesterday.


Why?


I'm just waiting for zito and anybody else to explain what happened. It wasn't something I did.

RedCoyote wrote:Second, what makes you think that both Nacho has sinister intentions and that he deliberately chose you three for his antagonism? It should be noted that my three picks for lynch yesterday were the same as Nacho.


He's scummy. He's going after 3 people he'd think have the fragments

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Post Post #1095  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:08 am

In post 1092, RedCoyote wrote:I don't understand. If you don't think Nahdia holds a fragment, why was she dropping the 'true' hints?


a coincidence. That other people would have thought was softing. and that's all that matters in the context.

In reality, since I know she doesn't have the fragment of fire, and she was saying red along with true, I can conclude she wouldn't do that if she had another piece, so it is just a coincidence

RedCoyote wrote:Let me put it another way, what makes you think Nahdia isn't scum trying to sniff out for other people with fragments to poach from? Because she didn't vote you?


Huh?

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Post Post #1096  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:09 am

You realize that line from nahdia comes after drealmerz obvious soft and my follow-up

And then SAD died

so no

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Post Post #1097  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:09 am

In post 1088, SpyreX wrote:Is the goal simply to reunite the parts or have something done with them.


I can only assume.

My assumption is that something good happens to whoever holds all the fragments.

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Post Post #1098  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:10 am

BAH

I DIED WTF FATE I WAS HAVING FUN.
The Mystery at King's Landing Mafia, alted 15p game is now playing out! PM me if you wish to be a replacement or to spectate.

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Post Post #1099  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:10 am

Why PZ is town: because scum lynchproof and/or 1-shot lynchproof sounds crazy overpowered that not even Fate would torture us with.

I don't see how you can jump to the conclusion that Nacho was targeting you three for the specific reason you outlined. I targetted you three and I did not see this pattern at all.

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