Mini 1886: Accounting Mafia [Normal] [GAME OVER]

[Infinity 324]

Who "pushed a lot" for a pine lynch? Hito I guess?

Kinda hard to push an absent slot

Yeah, it's easy to push an absent slot. Now, stop throwing yourself a pity party and push scum if town.

Cabd's been pushing Pine.

Can you quote a Cabd post and go "this is what I think town Infinity would post/would like to see from Infinity"?

And do this for pine, and everyone else in the game except for hito...

[Firebringer]

Vote Count 1.07

Pine [L-3] Hitogoroshi, Accountant, KuroiXHF, Cabd
Accountant [L-5] Not_Mafia, Shannon
Not_Mafia [L-6] Pine
Infinity 324 [L-6] Titus
Titus [L-6] Infinity 324
Antihero [L-6] All Alone
All Alone [L-6] Antihero

Not Voting (2) : Börk Börk, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, All Alone

Mod Notes: Get back to buisness work.
KuruoiXHF is on V/LA this weekend
Titus is on V/LA this weekend

With 13 alive, It takes 7 to Lynch.

Day 1 Ends (expired on 2017-03-08 00:00:00)

CFO (Flavor)

None.

[Accountant]

But do you actually have a substantive disagreement with my logic in 708?

I'm currently reading through Titus vs Infinity and my eyes are starting to glaze over.

Yes, because when you apply the logic in 78, you get voted like 262.

More than likely I would have still pushed N_M if I didn't have the past experience to think of the reverse being true as well.

...what does this mean

[Pine]

Very impressive posting, Pine. I can't believe how good your posts in the past 24 hours have been here; my opinion of your slot is completely reversed....Oh wait.

Shaddap, scrub.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

But do you actually have a substantive disagreement with my logic in 708?

I'm currently reading through Titus vs Infinity and my eyes are starting to glaze over.

Yes, because when you apply the logic in 78, you get voted like 262.

More than likely I would have still pushed N_M if I didn't have the past experience to think of the reverse being true as well.

...what does this mean

1) I disagree with logic
2) Did a case in point in first sentence
3) Stated the reason why I changed my own personal thinking of the slot given what I just stated.

[Accountant]

I don't understand what 78 has to do with 708.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Try this version

But do you actually have a substantive disagreement with my logic in 708?

I'm currently reading through Titus vs Infinity and my eyes are starting to glaze over.

Yes, because when you apply the logic in 708, you get voted like 262.

More than likely I would have still pushed N_M if I didn't have the past experience to think of the reverse being true as well.

[Accountant]

Okay, I'm getting confused. Let's rehash. I think that NM saying he learnt nothing isn't alignment indicative because there are reasons for him to do it as either alignment. What's your response?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I agree to a certain extent. I don't think it's bet the game worthy but mentally I'm giving it a town lean.

[Accountant]

Kk

[Börk Börk]

VOTE: N_M
Says he doesn't like the Pine push and then less than 100 posts later joins in anyway.
Then decides that his vote was apparently a reaction test, which seems to me like a convenient way for scum to get people off their backs for accidentally pushing a vote to L-1
Then he says he learnt nothing from this 'reaction test'. There's been plenty of discussion on this already, but to put in my 2¢ - scummy. It's such an easy way out, and also indicative of the fact that his 'reaction test' was bs. Surely if one was actually reaction testing then they'd think of what they were actually looking for as tells. 'Nothing' just seems like such a bs scummy response under the guise of 'town honesty'
And this is all finished off with his most recent series of posts just trying to bait Accountant.

[Infinity 324]

I want people's opinions on titus

[Infinity 324]

Accountant, what were you hoping to gain by questioning gin on that particular point?

[Infinity 324]

Bork, what about n_m can't be explained by him being lazy/trolling town?

[Accountant]

Accountant, what were you hoping to gain by questioning gin on that particular point?

I'm hoping to convince him that what NM did isn't a towntell. I think it's risky if people start saying so and so are town for dubious reasons and trusting them due to it.

[Infinity 324]

Anti, do you still scumread kuroi?

[Infinity 324]

Accountant, what were you hoping to gain by questioning gin on that particular point?

I'm hoping to convince him that what NM did isn't a towntell. I think it's risky if people start saying so and so are town for dubious reasons and trusting them due to it.

Ok, got it

Do you have a read on titus?

[Accountant]

nope

[Infinity 324]

Titus, I just realized you never gave your read on kuroi. Do so please. Or if you want to keep ignoring me because you think my playstyle makes me scum, you can do that too

[Infinity 324]

Don't really like how accountant is more questioning logic than actively trying to sort people, might just be playstyle though.

This game I have too many null/scumleans, which is unusual

[Accountant]

Questioning logic is how I sort people. I sort people by looking for the righteousness of their pushes and the genuineness of their reads, and that flows from the logic they use to justify them.

[Infinity 324]

It's mainly about the questioning of gin, though I may have seen a couple other examples...but you said you questioned gin to convince him, not to sort him.

[shannon]

You'd think if Pine was scum, there'd be some semblence of a counter. There isn't because Pine is getting railroaded by opportunistic scum.

What's your read on titus?

Weak town at this point, just for her approach to things and how she's willing to second-guess what others seem to be assuming. But I'm notably shit at reading Titus so I wouldn't be willing to take it to the bank at this point.

You'd think if Pine was scum, there'd be some semblence of a counter. There isn't because Pine is getting railroaded by opportunistic scum.

Why would there necessarily be a counter if Pine was scum?

Any scum with their teammate getting wagoned early faces a tricky dilemma wherein they have to take the risk of their teammate dying vs the risk that they look bad if they defend them, their teammate flips scum and they get fucked by associatives.

Given Pine's behavior this game, I think the possibility of a scumbuddy abandoning him to die is very real.

I don't think it's *necessary* that there's a counter wagon, but I do think it's likely that there should be one. I don't think that Pine's wagon is so (bad isn't the right word - dedicated? strong?) that it can't be derailed if Pine was scum and his partners wanted to save him.

[Accountant]

Yeah, but even if Pine lasts through this day, he'll still be a huge suspect tomorrow, and if he gets lynched then, whoever hard defended him goes down with him. So I can definitely see why a partner would abandon here, especially since Pine got flashwagoned out of nowhere and came very very close to L-1 super early on

[Accountant]

especially especially since Pine is clearly not doing anything to redeem himself