Mini 1886: Accounting Mafia [Normal] [GAME OVER]


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Mini 1886: Accounting Mafia [Normal] [GAME OVER]

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:44 am

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Accounting Mafia


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Reviewers:
This game was reviewed but not audited for balance. You should be aware of this fact when you signed up.
Special Thanks To:
AICPA if I passed my recent CPA exams. If I didn't pass, I'd like to thank no one. Consider that a contingency thank you.

Playerlist: [13 Players]
  1. Antihero

  2. Accountant

  3. KuroiXHF

  4. Not_Mafia

  5. Börk Börk

  6. shannon
    EspeciallyTheLies

  7. Infinity 324

  8. hitogoroshi

  9. Cabd

  10. TheRealGin-N-Tonic
    Cephrir

  11. Titus

  12. All Alone
    Camn

  13. Pine
*= prods
BOLD=Confirmed

Spoiler: Reviewing Documents (Alive) (3/13)
Not_Mafia
hitogoroshi
Titus

Spoiler: Fired (Dead)(10)
Pine, Lynched Day 1,
Vanilla Townie

Antihero, Died Night 1,
Vanilla Townie

Börk Börk, Lynched Day 2,
Mafia Goon

Accountant, Lynched Day 2,
Vanilla Townie

Cabd, Died Night 2,
Vanilla Townie

KuroiXHF, Lynched Day 2,
Mafia Encryptor

EspeciallyTheLies, Died Night 3,
Jack of all Trades

Cephrir, Lynched Day 4,
Vanilla Townie

Camn, Died Night 4,
Town Gunsmith

Infinity 324, Lynched Day 5,
Mafia Goon



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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:29 pm

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Rules

(Shamelessly stolen from other moderators and changed to fit this game)

General
  1. I am the Mod and what I say goes. I reserve the right to change the rules or modkill/force-replace players as I see fit. If this happens, all players will be made aware of this fact.
  2. That being said, I am perfect. But somehow I still make mistakes, if you see one, let me know. If you questions, comments or whatever feel free to PM me.
  3. Preface all in-thread messages to the mod with
    @Mod
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  4. Punishment for breaking any of the following rules is on a case-by-case basis and is therefore not fixed.
  5. This is a game. Play to win, and have fun, because what’s the point if it’s not fun?
  6. DO NOT TALK ABOUT ONGOING GAMES.

  7. All Global Site Rules Apply

Posting and Voting
  1. I hereby reserve the colour
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  2. Do not use invisible, encrypted, or ridiculously small text. Everything posted in the game thread should be public.
  3. All votes must be written in
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  4. Votes may
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  5. A lynch is reached in Cash Setup when a majority of all players, half players alive plus one rounded down, are voting for the same target.
  6. If a majority is not reached by the deadline, a No Lynch will occur in Cash Setup.
  7. A lynch is reached in Accounts Payable setup by either majority of all players, half players alive plus one rounded down, are voting for the same target. or
  8. Plurality rules if by deadline nobody has the majority, the player with the most votes, or if need be the one who got the most votes first, will be lynched.

Activity and Deadlines
  1. This game under each setup will start with Deadlines of 14 days and 48 hours nights (If nights exist).
  2. Failure to post within 48 hours without advance notice will result in a prod.
  3. You have 24 hours to respond to a prod, lest you be replaced. Regardless, three prods will result in a force-replacement.
  4. If your role gives you access to a Private Topic, you may request that a partner be poked. This will not count as an official prod.
  5. Please give notice of V/LA in-thread or via PM.
  6. Night actions are due an hour before night deadline. Please be aware of this.
  7. If you are going to be V/LA for more than 5 days I will extremely encourage you to replace out.
  8. A missed Night Action will result in a No Action.
  9. If you must replace out, I EXTREMELY encourage you to write up a "Notes PM" to send to moderator to get your replacement to catch up to what they missed. You will be reminded of this if you request to replace out.

Game Setup
  1. This game is a Semi-Open game.
  2. This game employs Decision mechanic, which is detailed much more below.
  3. One player has a Neutral role. This players alignment will possibly change based on Decision 1.
  4. This game has two versions. A 13 player version and a 15 player version.
  5. Scum will have chat pregame and before Decision 1 is made.
  6. Players have access to Working Papers, this is also known as last will. This is a content filled post that players can prepare before their death is announced to be posted upon their flip. Anything game related that isn't breaking any rules can be put in it. You cannot make this AFTER your death is announced.

Spoiler: Decision Mechanic
Decision
  1. Each day players will decide between a few options that will change the game.
  2. All possible decisions and options are public information.
  3. The first decision will be which setup will be played.
  4. The first decision will take place before you can vote for anyone to be lynched and will have 7 days to decide.
  5. All decisions after Day 1 will be take place concurrently as lynching.
  6. A decision must be made even if a majority isn't made on it, the option with most votes by deadline will be the one that goes through.
  7. Too find more info on what the decisions are, look under the specific Setup
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:37 pm

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Spoiler: Introduction Flavor
Welcome, you have joined our accounting staff here. We are glad to have you aboard the team.

As a member of the internal audit staff for Buissness Company, its our job to help prevent any material misstatements in the financial statements by making sure Buissness Company follows GAMP (Generally Accepted Mafia Principles).

So a little about the company.
Annadog40, is acting CEO, the company conducts business in the manufacture of the consumer good of staples that is widely used throughout the continental united states.
It employs some of the best mafiascum members in its management position.

I am currently the CFO, but my job is in danger

I believe that the company is at a serious risk for a embezzlement due to lack of serious internal controls that prevent separation of duties within the business. To keep potential and current investors at bay, I have gathered together a group of accountants to route out any potential fraudsters before this becomes a public scandal.

It is your job to ensure the accuracy of the financial documents that Buisness Company reports to the public so as to maintain its integrity. You have only a few days before the period ends to collect material and make sure everything is accurate,

Decision 1


We have done some analysis using analytical procedures, which you began and saw that there was higher chance of discrepancies in two accounts. Cash and Accounts Payable.

We will need to do more testing of both of these, but we will have to do one of these first before working on other.

Shall we examine:
Cash:
Game will proceed with new role pms being given out and the game turned to a normal game following normal game guidelines for roles and most parts of setup excluding the Decisions and Working Paper mechanics.

Accounts Payable:
Game continues as a nightless game. With the rest of the players going into teams of two in neighborhoods. Players can pick their teammate in intermediate phase before lynch. Scum also get a 1 shot Day Kill that they can use at any point.

Spoiler: Accounts Payable Setup
Nightless
  1. There is no night kill, no power roles.
  2. All player roles are vanilla.
  3. Scum will have a one shot day kill that can be used at any time.
  4. Scum have constant chat
  5. One player who was neutral will convert to scum team.
  6. All players will join a neighborhood with a player in game for 2 player neighborhoods.
  7. This game will be a 10:5 Town to Scum [15v]
  8. The game will be a 9:4 Town to Scum [13v]


Decisions
Day 2 Decisions:

(1) Lynches from here on are done by gladiate between group pairs. One team challenges another and only people within those groups can be lynched.
(2) The game will proceed as normal, no changes to be made.
Day 3 Decisions:

(1) Players can continue talking to their neighbor if they die from this point forward.
(2) Players can change up the neighborhoods (accounts) they are in for this day and forward. Neighborhoods can still only be two players.
Day 4 Decisions:

(1) Players now act as lover pairs in neighborhoods. If one player dies/lynched, other also dies.
(2) Game continues with no changes.
Day 5 Decisions:

(1) Game speed will now be that of a Blitz. 72 hour day/24 hour night.
(2) Game speed will now be sped up to 7 days for Day. 24 hour night.
(3) Game Deadline removed

Spoiler: Cash Setup
Normal
  1. All players will get a new role pm that will follow Normal guidelines.
  2. Please see the Normal Game Wiki for further description of what constitutes a normal game on MafiaScum.
  3. The only non normal mechanic in this game is the "Decision" mechanic and "Working Papers" seen above.
  4. No White List role(s) were used.
  5. This setup was made with a reasonable assurance to balance.
  6. This game will be a 11:4 Town to Scum with 1 Scum being a traitor who losses if last scum [15v]
  7. This game will be a 10:3 Town to Scum. [13v]

Decisions
Day 2 Decisions:

(1) The game has now two lynches for this day instead of one. The scum team gain a factional strongman/ninja/roleblock if this occurs. This factional can be used on any night.
(2) The game will proceed as normal, no changes to be made.
Day 3 Decisions:

(1) Game thread is open during this night.
(2) Players all become temporary mailmen. They can send up to 10 messages total to players, for this day only.
Day 4 Decisions:

(1) A player can be publicly role copped for the day. Players vote for the person to be role copped after this is chosen. This person role copped cannot be lynched for this day.
(2) Game continues with no changes.
Day 5 Decisions:

(1) Game speed will now be that of a Blitz. 72 hour day/24 hour night.
(2) Game speed will now be sped up to 7 days for Day. 24 hour night.
(3) Game Deadline removed


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Welcome, you are a
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Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • You cannot perform any night action.
Win Condition

You win when all the mafia are eliminated.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:52 pm

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Spoiler: Role PMs
These are the role PMs given out before Decision 1 is made.

9 players will receive this:
Welcome, you are an
External Auditor.

You wish to find any and all material misstatements in the financial documents to prevent a public scandal from occuring

You win when all the Fraudsters have been eliminated
1 player will receive this:
Welcome, you are a
Internal Auditor

You don't really care that much about finding any material misstatements, you just want to keep your job.

Your alignment will change based on Decision 1 and you can become either Town (External Auditor) or Scum (Fraudster)
3 people will receive this role pm:
Welcome, you are a
Fraudster.

You are trying to steal from the Buisness Company. You will do anything to achieve this, by lying, cheating, and even murder if necessary to get away with your crimes.

You have some people that you are colluding with to help you out:
X and Y


You win when your faction controls half the votes and one of you is alive or nothing can stop you from achieving this.

Spoiler: Final Note from Mod to Players
This game is likely not perfectly balanced, but I did attempt to make it so which is why it was made a Semi-Open. I don't give a guarantee of balance but if you have complaints, you can always shout in the Mafia Discussion thread about this setup post game.

Also as in the flavor of this game, while it encompasses many things that happen during an actual audit, isn't a complete picture of what occurs during it. I know very few people care about this flavor, but it is a personal interest and love of mine. I had plans to eventually create real financial statements to accompany the flavor of this game, but I have dropped that both because of time and because I know the player base here will likely find it boring.

I wish you all luck and I hope you enjoy.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:14 pm

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ALL ROLE PMs have gone out!
Game will start when 12/13 confirm.

Amazingly before I even post this already 12/13 confirmed.
You guys make me excited <3
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:14 pm

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Decision Vote Count 1.00


Cash (0) :
Accounts Payable (0) :

Not Voting (13) : Antihero, Accountant, KuroiXHF, Not_Mafia, Börk Börk, shannon, Infinity 324, hitogoroshi, Cabd, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Titus, All Alone, Pine

Mod Notes: Get back to buisness work.

With 13 alive, It takes 7 to reach a Decision.


Decision 1 Ends (expired on 2017-03-01 00:00:00)

Controller Notes (Flavor)
This group I gathered seem a bit inexperienced in conducting audits. Ill have them work on easier accounts, Accounts Receivable and Notes Payable seem a bit too complicated for them.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:18 pm

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FIRST EVER FIRST
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:19 pm

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VOTE: gin no you didn't
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:21 pm

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Oh yeah we have to vote on the setup. Ok
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:22 pm

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VOTE: Bork Bork

I've been an Accountant for years and I can confidently say that those dot things above the letter o are a sign of embezzlement.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:22 pm

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VOTE: Accounts Payable - - is this how it works?
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:22 pm

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I haven't read the OP yet but I think we vote for the set up before we RVS
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:24 pm

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Oh, right.

VOTE: Accounts Payable

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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:25 pm

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In post 11, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I haven't read the OP yet but I think we vote for the set up before we RVS
Then how do you know you vote for the setup first?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:29 pm

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VOTE: accounts payable

I like neighborhoods and plurality
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:44 pm

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VOTE: Accounts Payable
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:48 pm

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Accountant are you scum?
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:51 pm

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In post 16, Infinity 324 wrote:Accountant are you scum?
Nope. Are you?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:52 pm

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In post 15, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:VOTE: Accounts Payable
No answer to #13?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:04 pm

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I wanted to see what you would do. I naked voted Accounts Payable set up to see if you would bugger me about why I voted that set up; which could indeed bring up meaningful discussion and possible alignment indicative statements or go the route of pestering me about a semantic argument that won't help you or really anyone for the matter.

Let me explain why 13 is bad.

Accountant: Hey gin, you said you didn't read but knew a thing
Gin: Haven't read the OP thoroughly
Accountant: Oh, okay.
End of discussion

Why should I have wasted my time answering that?
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:32 pm

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That makes no sense. Why not vote Accounts Payable and go "okay, I voted this setup because..." and then out comes the meaningful discussion and possible alignment indicative statements.

Besides, in 13 you claimed you hadn't read the OP, not that you hadn't read the OP thoroughly. Like, to be clear, I don't care about you making a bad wording choice or forgetting to write "thoroughly" in your original post. Only fools think that sort of thing is a scumslip. What I'm concerned about is the fact that you don't seem very motivated to advance the game state despite claiming you do. Like, you say you made 15 to make me bugger you, and then complain that I'm buggering you. I think it was fairly clear that I was trying to poke you and start a conversation, and you basically told me "sorry, I don't want to talk to you" while complaining about how I don't talk to you enough. What's up with that?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:51 pm

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It was inevitable that you were going to ask follow up questions, what I wanted to know was simply what you were more concerned about.

I also explained that both scenario's left me open for questioning by you. What bothered me is that you focused on what was trivial over something with in-game meaning behind it.

What it told me is that you didn't care about why I make a game decision that will affect us for the next month or two, but just wanted to kick up some dust.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:53 pm

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Ugh accountant feels off to me but I always do that kind of nitpicky stuff early game as town lol

I'd like to see the response to gin here though.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:38 pm

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I disagree. Someone
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refusing to answer questions in RVS isn't trivial at all. Also, I think setup voting here is NAI as fuck. I expect most of the playerlist to be voting based on personal preference rather than because they think X setup is somehow more scumsided or townsided than the other - and I expect a player who does figure that kind of logic to say so explicitly in the post that they were voting the setup.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:38 pm

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In post 21, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:just wanted to kick up some dust
What do you think RVS is, Gin?
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