Mini 1887 - Oddrole Mafia (Game over)

[aronagrundy]

Alignment-specific roles apply to bastard games too? I honestly had no idea

[Viridian]

Yes, even in Incomplete Role PM setups including Oddrole (where you can be an Insane Cop or a Shellshocked Combat Medic or a 0% Role Cop and just think you're just a Cop, Combat Medic, and Role Cop respectively) the allowed alignments for each role is adhered to.

That is in fact why randomidget is almost always town for being able to motivate.

[aronagrundy]

And immortal is town only apparently...so someone is lying here.

[Viridian]

You?

[aronagrundy]

Is that what you actually think?

[aronagrundy]

btw please don't shoot until momo gets a replacement and we can clarify the roles. If momo has a buddy there's a chance it's me and you'd end the game

[Viridian]

I can't actually find or remember anything that fits all of what momo was saying. There is no role named God, and I can't come up with anything that's not on the role list that revives/reincarnates on death.

I still believe what I did when I replaced in -- that the best strategy as Immortal is to try to get people to kill you and distract from your BUDDY1, which explains gin's behavior D1 better than anything else I can think of.

So, because there aren't very many ways in which someone can die and come back to life as opposed to just being unkillable, we can definitively say momo's slot began the game as non-mafia. Ken Kesey is the only way for mafia to do this, and there being two of those would be unheard of.

The only way for momo's slot to have started off as anything besides town is if they are a Zombie (SK only; revives once upon death and has a nightkill that only works 50% of the time). It is also mechanically possible for momo to have started off as a town!Reincarnator (town-only: "If you die, you will return to life and get a new role and possibly a new team") that has reincarnated into some kind of scum. However, the following posts combined w/ momo's recent posts just make way more sense to me coming from the perspective of the Immortal role than either of these side cases imo:

After about 100 posts or so I'll start to get down and dirty, right now I've been floating around a bit chilling with RVS. I've got a special role and I'm trying to keep on the low profiles so i dont die at night >_>

Actually screw it! I'm a bulletproof investigative role >_>

Well, now that the cat's outta the bag, there's no real point in trying to go undetected

[Randomnamechange]

Oh good point re: rm. Though no one else has gotten multiple votes? Unless they've been goo'd and their role is still listed as a mystery.

i hit menno last night :/
i think i would be notified if i was gooed. if momo slot is still invincible we should lynch that today right? either he is mafia and lying or town and he wont die.

[Viridian]

Oh good point re: rm. Though no one else has gotten multiple votes? Unless they've been goo'd and their role is still listed as a mystery.

i hit menno last night :/

why not me ;_;

i think i would be notified if i was gooed.

Indeed

if momo slot is still invincible we should lynch that today right? either he is mafia and lying or town and he wont die..

;_; read my posts plz. I don't think there are any more mafia left. We're trying to decide who I should daykill and then who we should lynch if it comes to that

[Viridian]

Actually, let's just do this this way.

I'm going to submit a daykill on aronagrundy to the mod in (expired on 2017-03-23 14:33:50).

You all have until then to talk me out of it/into waiting longer for a replacement.

Given that the mod decided not to pause night until a replacement was found, I don't think he's very serious about taking action to that end. If what to do with an empty slot is left on our shoulders, I ultimately think that slot's play is far more town indicative than arona's.

[Randomnamechange]

Oh good point re: rm. Though no one else has gotten multiple votes? Unless they've been goo'd and their role is still listed as a mystery.

i hit menno last night :/

why not me ;_;

i think i would be notified if i was gooed.

Indeed

if momo slot is still invincible we should lynch that today right? either he is mafia and lying or town and he wont die..

;_; read my posts plz. I don't think there are any more mafia left. We're trying to decide who I should daykill and then who we should lynch if it comes to that

sorry i meant non-town. i did read your posts.

Actually, let's just do this this way.

I'm going to submit a daykill on aronagrundy to the mod in (expired on 2017-03-23 14:33:50).

You all have until then to talk me out of it/into waiting longer for a replacement.

Given that the mod decided not to pause night until a replacement was found, I don't think he's very serious about taking action to that end. If what to do with an empty slot is left on our shoulders, I ultimately think that slot's play is far more town indicative than arona's.

i agree. I'm just trying to cover all bases.

[aronagrundy]

I've already explained a lot of my actions. If you have any questions for me, just ask.

Right now I'm pretty sure momo's slot is the one most likely lying about their role. I would actually advocate shooting them: if it turns out they're lying, they'll die, and this will almost certainly give us the win. Unless momo was doing some bizarre town gambit.

I really don't know what else to say. I think town will likely win regardless if I die or not, so if you really have to shoot me to make things easier, that's ok. But if you think momo is immortal: I might be their buddy. Then again, I don't necessarily think momo is immortal, so I don't think we'd both die if you shoot me.

[aronagrundy]

rm who did you target each night?

[Viridian]

SOCRATES

I MISS UYPU


ALSOC MENNO

[Viridian]

BUT MENNO IS STRQIAGHTLACED

[Randomnamechange]

rm who did you target each night?

dwlee dwlee menno
i feel like they are trying to see something to push back against me in desparation. p sure arona is scum

[Viridian]

to be fair mcmenno was a claimed doctor (even tho he said he was gonna shoot Titus and seems to have done so) so you targeting him was fairly dumb imo

[Viridian]

NONETHELESS i believe you to be aligned with the TOWN

[eagerSnake]

aronagrundy has been killed!
aronagrundy was a One-Shot Forensics Expert (sk)!

Game over; Town wins!

phonepost, will update later

P.s. rm was mystery motivator

Momos slot was an immortal and his buddy was viridians slot

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: alban

[Viridian]

So my main takeaway here is that scum actually can replace out when they're doing perfectly well but are mad about town shitposting. Haven't ever seen that before.

@eager thanks for modding; I don't 100% agree with all mod decisions made but thanks for the experience

[eagerSnake]

Yeah I made a couple mistakes but don't worry I feel like I've leveled up from all the exp

[eagerSnake]

Thanks 4 playing

[aronagrundy]

This was fun! I just killed whoever spoke first that day. The plan was to make everyone afraid of posting and force a mass prod but momo being immortal kind of spoiled that. In addition to the whole role swap lol

[Randomnamechange]

twas a good game. sorry for not being more engaged, well played viridian.