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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sat May 20, 2017 5:21 pm

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Desperado didn't bet his $500 despite being told that he should do so immediately as town, by at least 3 people. I think RC is likely to be scum but this is a dumb lynch that no one has explained and just handwaved as "Well I guess it's RC."

VOTE: Desperado

Tywin was a freak probabilistic accident. If Desperado is town he honestly deserves to lose. You can make the argument that if he is, I'm to blame for not reading him correctly but I don't think it would hold water.

Probably going to be forced to switch back onto RC by way of majority vote (and not letting the daykill swing it to a third person) but for now I'm putting this up.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sat May 20, 2017 5:23 pm

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Reading his ISO it's actually not as bad as I thought for like the first 10 posts, his reads are fine other than maybe Socrates. He's just been awful post Day 1, and again, why on earth do you see 3 people telling you to put $500 down to clear yourself and then just not do it?
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sat May 20, 2017 5:29 pm

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Honestly, from my read through this town deserves to lose more than it deserves to win. Sometimes that just happens with games where no one wants to play.

That said, I'm liking you for town, Prism. If you're scum, GG. But you've been pretty townie all game I would say. Still not finished reading. What is your read on ABR? What is your current read on Socrates? What do you make of the Gamma wagon dissolving so quickly and erratically on Day1?
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sat May 20, 2017 5:50 pm

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Lynch Vote Count 4.2


RedCoyote (3):
Desperado, Albert B. Rampage, Infinity 324
Albert B. Rampage (1):
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Desperado (1):
Prism

Not Voting (2):
Oversoul, Socrates

Day Ends in (expired on 2017-05-21 21:00:00). Please submit your bids inside your QT in bold. Please remember bidding is no longer allowed within the last 10 minutes of the day phase. All funds still held after today will be rendered useless.


Desperado and Socrates have been prodded.
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sat May 20, 2017 5:55 pm

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Ok I am done reading.

I think ABR is scum. Honestly at a loss for who the last scum member could be. I think RC not doing anything to stop his own lynch looks townie. He's that apathetic.
I had an early town read on Prism's hesitation to discuss mechanical stuff for fear of revealing something. Her unfortunate push on Tyswin also seems town to me.

I think ABR has been hiding behind mechanic talk the entire game. Very little scimhunting at all from him. A LOT of vote switches though. That seems very scummy.

Prism is the strongest town read I have and has a head on her shoulders. I hope I'm not wrong on you!

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VOTE: ABR
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Sat May 20, 2017 6:04 pm

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Socrates, What have you put your money on?
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 2:44 am

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Yeah it's official. No one cares about this game. *sigh*
I do think ABR is scum. His actions have not been pro-townie at all. All he did was talk mechanics and do 0 scrum hunting. His weird forgetting that lynches don't occur outright on the earlier days while saying Tywin's understanding of the mechanics was hypocritical.

I encourage Prism and Infinity to join me on this wagon. Also, I'm going to bid for one of cop/godfather. Not that I think it will do anything, but just for argument's sake.
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 3:26 am

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Ya I just bid as well. Calling me scum for not "confirming" myself with the bid earlier is extremely silly
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 4:08 am

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How about you vote for ABR
The Elena kill makes little sense for RC scum after his actions yesterday.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 5:13 am

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It's not "silly", you literally had the chance to prove you can't have the daykill in MyLo and said no.

Why should I vote RC over you? No one disputes the Tracker x1, $300+ is a lot to pay for scum RC.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 5:18 am

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Do I townread ABR? No. Do I want to vote him over Desp? No, and not even over RC.

RC's reason for voting ABR is the biggest cop out ever. It's justifying voting his townread by saying "Haha whoops, forgot with ABR when I townread him he's scum"

Meanwhile Socrates hasn't even posted in MyLo
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 5:18 am

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Actually scratch that he did post and I just forgot, because he
still hasn't said what he bid on
and hasn't posted in at least two days.
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 5:26 am

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Honestly it doesn't even matter because he has to have bought gravedigger and/or doctor and it doesn't take a genius scum to figure out that's what he has to claim.

I'll go back over ABR in a bit. I agree that RC is likely scum (I think the Elena kill was just to give credence), it's just frustrating that Desp/ABR/Soc are all avoiding being protown like the plague, and make it hard to justify voting him given someone has go be scum with him.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 6:04 am

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I think VCA in this game would be really informative I just don't have the time or motivation for it. I'll try to find time in the next few days but yeah.

I don't know if elena kill was significant since she was obvious town after voting gamma at deadline.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 6:23 am

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In post 888, Infinity 324 wrote:I think VCA in this game would be really informative I just don't have the time or motivation for it. I'll try to find time in the next few days but yeah.

I don't know if elena kill was significant since she was obvious town after voting gamma at deadline.
We don't have a few days. If we mislynch, it's pretty much over.
The deadline is in less than 12 hours.

What is your read on ABR?

Prism, what happened to your Socrates push? Why do you suddenly feel like RC is better than Socrates? Because of the wagon presence on RC?
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 6:24 am

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Why is everyone ignoring ABR?
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 6:30 am

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I think ABR is town. His attempts to organize people was the main reason for the townread.

I don't have any reason to believe RC is a mislynch and prism's point about his read on ABR makes me feel even better about that.

It sucks to replace into a game where everyone else has no motivation, I get that, but there's not much I can do to give myself more motivation at this point. So yeah.
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 6:31 am

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Yeah. RC is worse than I thought.
Ugh. Too many people not playing.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 6:44 am

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I hope I'm wrong about RC, but I don't think I am.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 8:04 am

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Like, I want to engage with you but I don't think we'll get anywhere since I don't believe in any of the ways you're reading people and we don't have enough time.

Elena kill could easily be WIFOM since she was obvious town. I don't think apathy makes him town either--sometimes scum just doesn't have the motivation and pressure does nothing to change that.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 8:39 am

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Prodded.

Sorry about my absence, I should have announced V/LA, but I always forget to do that kind of thing.

I have Doc X 1. I haven't used it yet. I was sitting on it to use at the last minute, but claiming ownership makes it useless. I thought about trying to hide it, but with everyone else having claimed, scum can just use process of elimination to guess what I have.

I think Albert is town. I already talked about him claiming hitman, and I think he was really trying to get people to participate at day start.
Infinity is pretty obvious town.
Prism's vote bounce on me is weird, but in effect all it accomplished was make Gamma a slightly more likely lynch than me, which doesn't make sense for scum to do.
If Desperado can prove his funds, he is more likely town, but we have to see that.

Counting myself as town (obviously), that leaves RC and Oversoul, (assuming Desperado does prove his claim, otherwise I would pick him over Oversoul).

Either way, I have trouble seeing a scenario where RC is town, just through my reads on other players.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 8:42 am

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In post 880, Oversoul wrote:Socrates, What have you put your money on?
I'll be dumping the last of my money on godfather.
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 8:47 am

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In post 894, Infinity 324 wrote:Like, I want to engage with you but I don't think we'll get anywhere since I don't believe in any of the ways you're reading people and we don't have enough time.

Elena kill could easily be WIFOM since she was obvious town. I don't think apathy makes him town either--sometimes scum just doesn't have the motivation and pressure does nothing to change that.
The more I think about the RC vote on ABR the more I am convinced RC's vote is bad. But it goes against my gut with what a scum would do in this situation.

Fuck it. VOTE: RC
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 12:14 pm

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*shrug*

Like I said, I can't feel much on this one, sorry. No one ever really engaged me aside from Infinity scolding me for not playing to his standards. I mean, I actively asked people questions, gave reads and put myself out there. I implore anyone to go find all the many posts of ABR/Desperado/Socrates/Momo asking me questions to try and figure out my alignment. I was just assumed to be lurking scum the entire game. Then the NK comes out along with the Elena death. Lol @ y'all that think this is my scum play though. If it helps you sleep better at night. I mean, I see that it's the easy out from my glass house, so I'm not going to start throwing stones.

Not a fun game. No fault of the moderator who has done and is doing a fine job. I take partial blame, of course, but the pieces did not fit here. I really do not like these lynch rules, for what it's worth.
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Sun May 21, 2017 12:22 pm

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Don't think Desperado is going to get wagoned at this point, and votesplitting is dangerous. I'm just going to hope for the best here.

VOTE: RC
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