Mini Theme 1915: TAZ Mafia: Here There Be Gerblins [done]

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Creative

[Backhand]

Both pim and GT immediately suspected/attacked alisae. Of course could be bussing, but gutread to me says no. GT also reacted in what I thought was a very genuine way to the fakeclaim. Not too soon like a pre-planned thing with creative, but what feels to me like the right amount of time to figure it out. Oh and I think the voting drawback is more likely to be given to town.

Everyone else (besides creative and fitz, see 1465 on them):

Abr:

Would be a townread, but is a very plausible partner with creative. Has poked him a couple times, called out things for his that were scummy, but has never actually pushed for his lynch. Probably my second-highest townread, but is a veteran and seems competent enough to be playing a good scum game.

(and he voted for Creative while I was writing my post, of course. I dunno)

Dunnstral:

I townread him Day 1, part of the reason I pushed SlySly, but I can't discount that he was the second-biggest wagon at the time SlySly got quicklynched. I don't like his Day 2 trying to delay the alisae lynch. That said, unlike he's not a very plausible partner with creative, he's been on him most of the game.

Frozen Angel:

Paranoia about how bad alisae's claim was. Other than that, probably the doctor. When we really do finish claiming, someone saying who gave you that bulletproof would make me feel better about that part of it too, its a little too good to be true.

SirCakez:

Its always really hard to fairly evaluate the person who has been scumreading you more or less the whole game. I really don't like that he supposedly though an alisae/creative/myself team was likely (really, you think two team members immediately went out each other and the third jumped in to call both of them town?), yet has been on me and never creative. That said, I don't think he's actually that scummy if I try to discount the OMGUS factor.

Suzune:

Was scumreading her more before today (she was another late jumper on SlySly) but I don't see her claim as being likely for scum and her thoughtfulness about her ability feels very town.

[havingfitz]

suzane suicide will happen like a veng kill at the end of day phase so in a 3 player lylo she can veng kill x and they can lynch y so all 3 will die and that's town insta win

If Suzune is in 3 player LYLO and commits suicide and takes someone with her before they have hammered the 3rd player...won't the 3rd person live? And the corresponding alignment win.

And if Suzune and another player hammer the 3rd player before she commits suicide...then that 3p LYLO is over and if scum is in the final 2...scum wins. Just like regular lylo. Yes?

I'm not seeing how the plan being discussed is insta-win for town.

[havingfitz]

I find this is so weak evaluations

anything about alisae play gave you any ideas?

I didn't like Alisae and the only thing that got him to D2 for me was his claim. Once the dust settles D2 he was pretty much dead man walking so people jumping up and down hard to get him lynched are suspect to me for craving towncred and manipulating vca. Which in part is leading me towards Creative as I've stated.

[havingfitz]

HEAL: Suzune

[Frozen Angel]

@fitz suzane claimed the suicide will happen at the end of day and they can lynch another play at the same time

@backhand tell me again - you're not newbie yes?

[Backhand]

@fitz suzane claimed the suicide will happen at the end of day and they can lynch another play at the same time

@backhand tell me again - you're not newbie yes?

Nah, just rusty. Eight year gap between forum games. Have been playing semi-regularly in person, but that's very different.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

im here but busy zzzz

since it's near deadline is there anything i should look at/answer before eod?

hopefully next day i'll be more helpful oops

[Frozen Angel]

Both pim and GT immediately suspected/attacked alisae. Of course could be bussing, but gutread to me says no. GT also reacted in what I thought was a very genuine way to the fakeclaim. Not too soon like a pre-planned thing with creative, but what feels to me like the right amount of time to figure it out. Oh and I think the voting drawback is more likely to be given to town.

I was the first one who pushed alisae in day 1 and made her claim - where did they were the first who did that?

pedit : then explain why if my BP claim is true that makes me more town and why if it was a lie to wifom scum to save myself (which I'm entirly capabole of doing that ) - I'm not so much? cause it seems you're more interested in solving the bp part instead of sorting me

for what is related to me and my role

imo

[Frozen Angel]

im here but busy zzzz

since it's near deadline is there anything i should look at/answer before eod?

hopefully next day i'll be more helpful oops

who should we lynch

I'm thinking about lynching dunn or backhand

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I like neither of those and still would prefer creative

dunn is a confident meta read. he's sussing things out and not mudslinging. those are towntells

backhand i'm too iffy about and dont want to deadline lynch

[gigabyteTroubadour]

*his towntells

[Frozen Angel]

what is a dunn towntell can you alk me through that meta?

[Frozen Angel]

walk*

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Dunn plays mafia more for town than for scum and it really shows in his investment in the game

d1 i was worried since he barely did anything but i knew he was kind of in a rut irl so it was possible that impacted his play

d2 and on though his interest in the game has spiked and he feels more invested

as scum, like in Spring Fever, he just kind of sits on one thing and mudslings everywhere else. theres no drive or interest

[Albert B. Rampage]

HEAL: Suzune

Why Suzune? This is a terrible choice.

[Frozen Angel]

that is the only logical choice abr unless if you outright explain why the plan I said won't work or a case on her explaining why you scumread her.

[Frozen Angel]

Suzanne will either suicide today or I will heal her till lylo

[Frozen Angel]

d2 and on though his interest in the game has spiked and he feels more invested

he did nothing though

did he

[Frozen Angel]

can you quote me the posts you think are from town him?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't feel comfortable with the way the mod responded that Suzune is telling the whole truth. I know this is a theme game but I don't trust him and certainly can't see us dragging him all the way to LYLO.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm sorry, she not he. Suzune you have such an androgynous avatar lol

[Frozen Angel]

mod not outright saying we will win in lylo?

that actually felt like mod hinting suzane is telling the truth and mod wants to restrict the information to save that role information.

though I'm kindda nervous about the way dunn acted there (saying we will win if all die when I was asking mod)

[havingfitz]

HEAL: Suzune

Why Suzune? This is a terrible choice.

I'm rethinking based on FAs description of Suzune's ability. As FA describes it I trust it much less and agree a heal to her is bad.

Have you pointed out to the others voting to heal Suz?

HEAL: giga

[Frozen Angel]

suzane will eaither suicide today or will stay till the very lylo by my heal