Mini 1922: Bondage & Discipline (Game over!)


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Mini 1922: Bondage & Discipline (Game over!)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:56 am

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In a land where spam and shitposting reign supreme, one small group of 13 has resolved to play an entire game without it. Can they do it? Will their discipline lead the town to victory, or will they find themselves in bondage to the evil Mafia? Find out in...


Bondage & Discipline Mafia


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Players
  1. jjh927
    Thinkbig
    Landmark
    FourTrouble

  2. CommKnight
    *
  3. Aubrey
    GreyICE

  4. The Bulge

  5. Lang Buddha
    Pisskop

  6. Persivul
    Verbs

  7. Boonskiies
    Socrates

  8. Vedith
    **
  9. Bins

  10. randomidget

  11. Carcalilly
    *
  12. Assemblerotws
    **
    Michael22Omega
    ArcAngel9

  13. Dragnalus
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Spoiler: Current game state
The game has ended in a
Mafia Victory
!

Roles and fates:
  • Dragnalus,
    Standard Townie
    , was lynched Day 1.
  • The Bulge,
    Standard Mafioso
    , was lynched Day 2.
  • jjh927,
    Standard Townie
    , was killed Night 2.
  • Lang Buddha,
    Verbose Townie
    , was lynched Day 3.
  • randomidget,
    Verbose Townie
    , was killed Night 3.
  • Persivul,
    Verbose Townie
    , was killed Night 4.
  • Boonskiies,
    Standard Townie
    , was lynched Day 5.
  • Assemblerotws,
    Standard Townie
    , was lynched Day 6.
  • Aubrey,
    Standard Townie
    , was killed Night 6.
  • Carcalilly,
    Standard Townie
    , was killed Night 7.
  • CommKnight,
    Standard Townie
    , was lynched Day 8.
  • Bins,
    Standard Townie
    , was endgamed.
  • Vedith,
    Standard Mafioso
    , survived and won the game!
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:57 am

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Rules

You are fully responsible for understanding and following these rules.


None of these rules supercede or contradict the Forum Rules and Guidelines, all of which are in full force.




Conduct

  • Don't use
    orange
    , it's my color.

  • Play to win.

  • Don't discuss the game outside of the game until the moderator says it's over.

  • Don't flame. Don't harass. Don't use insults that target minority or disadvantaged classes.

  • Keep interpersonal disputes out of the game thread.

  • Don't quote or misquote private communications from the moderator.

  • Don't use encryption, tiny/hidden/unreadable text, or anything that could be easily confused for such.

  • All replacement requests will be taken as serious, irrevocable, and immediate. Once you request replacement you are no longer a player.

  • Don't game the rules, pretend to break the rules, or intentionally test the limits. All pretended violations will be dealt with identically to actual violations.

  • Don't break the rules of any other ongoing game in this thread.

  • Do not argue moderator actions in the game thread. If you want to dispute a ruling, do so via PM.


Voting, abilities, and deadlines


Day
  • Days begin with a deadline of (number of living players) IRL days.

  • Days end when one of the following events occurs:
    • The deadline is reached.
    • A lynch (or no-lynch) is achieved.
    • A town-aligned player is modkilled.
  • Votes should be made via the vote tag: "[vote]<playername>[/vote]" or "[v]<playername>[/v]". Full player names or initial segments thereof are preferred.

  • When more than half of living players are voting for the same player, that player will be lynched and the day will end. Votes are irrevocable once a majority is achieved.

  • You may vote not to lynch by voting for "No lynch". When half or more of living players do so, the day will end without a lynch.

  • If the day reaches deadline without a majority, there will be no lynch.

  • I will interpret malformed votes according to my own discretion. In general, if it looks like a vote, I will probably count it as a vote. I reserve the right to edit malformed votes for easier counting.

  • When a majority vote has been achieved but not yet recognized by the moderator, the game is in
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    Players, including the lynchee, may continue to post during this period.

  • Under certain rare circumstances I may elect to extend the deadline. I will announce this in thread if it occurs.
Night
  • Nights will last
    48 hours
    or until all living players PM me their approval to end the night early.

  • During the night, you should be unable to post in the public game thread. If for some reason you are able, doing so is still against the rules.

  • Mafia kills should be posted in the Mafia PT. Mafia may choose not to kill, either explicitly or by failing to submit a kill.


Activity requirements

  • Players who do not reply within
    48 hours
    of receiving their role PM will be replaced.

  • Players who do not post for
    48 hours
    in a single game-day will incur a prod.

  • Players who do not post for
    24 hours
    following a prod will be replaced.

  • Players who incur three prods will be replaced.

  • If for any reason you are temporarily unable to meet these requirements, you may declare V/LA status and be excused. V/LA declarations must include a definite end date.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:58 am

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Mechanics


This game is 2:11 mountainous.

Each player's role PM has, in addition to their alignment (
Townie
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Mafioso
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  • Standard:
    20-16-12-8-4
  • Verbose:
    25-20-15-10-5
These numbers indicate how many posts the player is allowed to make on Days 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5+.

Naked votes count as posts; however, if you reach your post limit for the day, you may continue to make up to one post per 24 hours consisting solely of a vote or unvote.

Mafia may post freely in their private thread, but only at night.

Players who exceed their post limit once will be warned. Players who exceed their post limit twice will be modkilled.

The Town wins when all the Mafia are dead; the Mafia win when half of living players are Mafia. Any end state where neither condition is met is a mutual loss.

Spoiler: Sample role PM
Welcome to the game. You are a
Standard Townie
.
  • On day 1 you are permitted up to 20 posts.
  • On day 2 you are permitted up to 16 posts.
  • On day 3 you are permitted up to 12 posts.
  • On day 4 you are permitted up to 8 posts.
  • On days 5+ you are permitted up to 4 posts.
You win when all the Mafia are dead.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:33 am

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The game will begin once 11/13 players have confirmed.

Currently, 13/13 players have confirmed.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:27 am

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Day 1 has dawned!


Official Post Count 1.0FourTrouble: 0
CommKnight: 0
GreyICE: 0
The Bulge: 0
pisskop: 0
Verbs: 0
Socrates: 0
Vedith: 0
Bins: 0
randomidget: 0
Carcalilly: 0
ArcAngel9: 0
Dragnalus: 0


Official Vote Count 1.0
Not Voting
(13): FourTrouble, CommKnight, GreyICE, The Bulge, pisskop, Verbs, Socrates, Vedith, Bins, randomidget, Carcalilly, ArcAngel9, Dragnalus

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.


Deadline:
(expired on 2017-07-11 13:28:00)
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:37 am

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VOTE: Carcalilly
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:41 am

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Oh good god.

Replace out

Acknowledged, seeking a replacement for GreyICE.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:44 am

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In post 6, GreyICE wrote:Oh good god.

Replace out
Before you leave, you should signal to me what incoming disaster that you were trying to avoid.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:02 am

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VOTE: Vedith OMG, US!

This game has a great title. B&D
SM ohoho


Also that was a quick replace out, are you OK m9? ^

Anyway since we don't get a lot a posts, let's get talking!
Anyone have any ideas for a scum team? I'm thinking The Buldge and Verbs, 100% gut.
Would a massclaim be a bad idea? Maybe we can start out with sandard and verbose. :)

@Umlaut, can I count my posts like this so I don't loose track?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:17 am

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Carcalilly, stop! :lol:

People will call you scum for this!
Also, thanks for letting us know you're post count! :giggle:

Why do you think the scum team is only 2 players in a 13player game though?
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:23 am

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BUT WE GOTTA GET THIS STARTED LIKE RN
I ain't gonna waste time, ain't gonna waste posts

I don't understand how what I do is scummy but apparently it is??
Legit tho, why??
Ehh people would've found out sooner or later so it's k

Because:
In post 2, Umlaut wrote: This game is 2:11 mountainous.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:26 am

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I'll about wasting posts!

Because although I doubt there's scum motive to it considering it's you, you're already calling a scum team with nothing of anything...

I know that's the setup, I wanted to see if you knew it for that reason!

Also, I agree with claiming the sandard and verbose
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:33 am

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P-edit: "I'm all about wasting posts?": Is that what you meant? Why now? If you waste it all and can't defend yourself later, don't think it'll stop me from wagoning ya' if I feel thats what I should do. (and that goes for everyone in this game)

Because calling scum teams is always a fun way to start. Maybe you should, you got it spot on last time. :giggle:

So are you just gonna agree or are u gonna claim boi? ^

---

OH DARN NO PRS LOL so yeah lets massclaim I'm a standard.
So no PRS means massclaims won't really hurt town? : OO
but buT would the scum team have at least one verbose?? for balance and stuff?

Spoiler: also im gonna leave this here for irony please dont hurt me


3/20

lmao I'm gonna squeeze in as much as i can into my posts now
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:59 am

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Okay.
RVS is dumb and you should feel bad.




20 posts or 25 is more than enough to establish a repore when mixed with meta and jazz. finding a scum is going to be harder than finding his buddy. I suggest we start by roping a lurker player. Get that shit right out of here. And at least pretend we can force scum to play the game. Gods, imagine an abr-esque player in this game ...

So far nobody has really posted, but I assume scum had pregame to at least ego their chat?

This game is not really designed with the current shitposty meta that the site seems to enjoy, its really where cold, precise, and methodical players get their rocks off. Therefore I suggest either straight pushing or RQSing.

Vedith, whytf are you wasting posts?
Carco, why do you wanaa massclaim? alloted posts appears to have nothing to do with alignment, at least not according to the mod in the OPs.
Gray, gdi why you sign in to pop out? I think I know why, but dont leave me here. take me with you.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:17 am

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HI PISSKOP. I almost wanted to call you just "piss" but I should ask before I do that? c:
Sorry,, ;_;

Actually, this is one of the only cases when I'm not opposed to lynching a lurker. So ye I agree
VOTE: The Bulge idk I can't get over that name, especially with the name of the game already.

I wanna be an even mix of shitposts and go getter. :')
Anyway, pisskop, your tone scares me a bit. Lets keep this fight short.

OK, the reason why I want a massclaim is 1.to know, 2.we dont know if it is AI, I just have this feeling that it is (as I explained in one of my other posts) and 3.Verbose players have a small advantage, so I guess we could try not to lynch them in equal circumstances. Like, I'd rather lynch a Standard player.

^also can I ask why or is it a personal issue? if it is then nvm

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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:36 am

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If carca wants to waste all her posts then by all means she can go ahead. Based on what she's saying, I honestly don't think she will be a strong asset. I don't even really want to entertain anything she has said and just hope she keeps talking to herself until the mod tells her to stop.

People are going to use the post restrictions as an advantage to not talk, which is what my main concern is. I don't want that become a timely excuse because it obstructs information we can get from other players. I'm not really thinking too hard about my post-count because it's not relevant until I get close to my cap, and I don't think others should be either. That being said, I think scum has more incentive to burn through posts than town, referring to what I said earlier. Do I think all scum will use this tactic? Unlikely. If I didn't know any better, I'd be suspecting Carca and Vedith from the start, but more specifically Vedith who highlighted that 'people will call you scum for this' because it's a very awkward thing to say, especially to not question carca directly if you really believe that. Did he really believe that? I don't know. He's
silly
and so is Carca.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:00 am

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Damn reroll, went from verbose to standard. I'm in favour of claiming verbouse/standard and keeping track of post counts. With 13 real life days for this day and myself with only 20 posts, I will attempt to spread out my posts so that I can actually communicate with anyone who has posts left towards the end of the day.

I also agree with Dragnalus, scum would be trying to burn through posts early so they have a "reason" to float towards the end of the days. Also I won't even just say burn through them early. Burn through them with multi-posting and 1-2 liners of a sentence or two each.

@Mod

Also now I'm curious because I reread the mod's posts. So we're allowed to insult privileged white dudes right? They aren't a minority or disadvantaged. Just curious since rather than "No insults" it's rather specific.

Anyway, back to it. I think the best course of action for now might be to agree now to the idea that anyone caught trying to run up their post count to run out of posts early will be voted on even if they can't defend themselves. If they run out of posts before we're even half-way through the day phase or found a reasonable lynchee, then the action is in itself scummy and scum-motivated. Thus we need to agree to run anyone up trying to weasel their way out of contributing in the late day phase process.

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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:19 am

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In post 13, pisskop wrote:Vedith, whytf are you wasting posts?
I'm not looking for a stale game where people use their posting restriction to avoid conversation.
How else do you suggest we start the day? All sit in silence?
In post 16, CommKnight wrote:If they run out of posts before we're even half-way through the day phase or found a reasonable lynchee, then the action is in itself scummy and scum-motivated.
Invite Scum to lurk with reason. Genius!
Comm, whoever calls you stupid is wrong! :mad:
In post 12, Carcalilly wrote:If you waste it all and can't defend yourself later
I wouldn't be defending myself even with posts. So why would it matter without?
Your question here should be how would I push Scum?
I'll vote once per real day and let you guys work out the rest.

Also I'm 20 :up:
In post 15, Dragnalus wrote:People are going to use the post restrictions as an advantage to not talk
Someone gets it.

And for people who struggle to keep count. Look at the posts in activity day 1.

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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:24 am

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In post 16, CommKnight wrote:
@Mod

Also now I'm curious because I reread the mod's posts. So we're allowed to insult privileged white dudes right? They aren't a minority or disadvantaged. Just curious since rather than "No insults" it's rather specific.
If anyone has a better phrasing suggestion, they can PM me. "Protected class" depends on legal jurisdiction, and I don't want a list of dozens of isms that are specifically disallowed. General-purpose insults (e.g. "dipshit") are not very nice but not actually against the rules, so I can't just say "no insults." In the meantime, the "Don't game the rules" rule remains in effect.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:58 am

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@Dragnalus
Waste? I'm not wasting...;;
What about me isn't helpful exactly? It's just the start of the game, I'll get there.
And if u want u can policy lynch my or whatever, but at least talk to me first. <3
Sorry for being (italics)silly. Though, your point can be totally wifomed, so look out.

@Comm
OK that would be too obvious, if they're one liners.

Also can we make a middle path please
Clearly, people who burn out quick are off-putting, but I think that's ok if they actually give substance. Lurkers are more of a concern though.
However, I'm not gonna ignore everyone who avoids that. Now scum knows we're looking out for it lol.

Well, yeah, you can still push scum with those votes, Vedith, but you wouldn't be able to fight anymore. That's the part that I wanna avoid. :(

Alternativley, we can just quicklynch every day and the restriction won't matter. c:
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:46 am

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You don't have to make your posts long if you plan on responding to every post, you realize this, right? The purpose of this game is to make it so frequency of posting is lowered and content is raised. If you still have every second post on the first page, you're doing it wrong.

VOTE: The Bulge

I'll sheep you, though.
RVS is good and Pisskop should feel bad.

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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:52 am

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:(

'good' and 'pisskop' are in the same sentence. I'll take this sequence as a TR! \o/
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:35 am

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Aubrey replaces GreyICE.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:00 am

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alright.
VOTE: dragnalus
shadethrow at carcallily is suspicous.
pisskop and carc are trs rn.
i feel like what comm got out of drag's post (which was a valid point) wasn't what drag meant originally.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:10 am

Post by Carcalilly »

Actually, I think it's just to lower shitposts or actually meaningless posts. (like the recent one from pisskop^) It's fine to post constantly imo as long as y'all don't waste em'!
Plus, I like interacting with people. That's how you find em out.
Bulge lurkerwagon ahoy!

^And I kinda agree, they dismiss me then go on to talk about game mechanichs and plans, that any good scum wouldn't fall into. :(

I should wait for more people to post tho
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