Mini 1936: Yume's Cutsie U-Pick (Town Win!)

[Radical Rat]

Damn, foiled again.

Best of luck to you and your players though

[Aristophanes]

There is a scale.
Varsoon Crazy | - - - - - - - | - - - - - - - | Normalcy/Mountainous
It's important to find out where you fit on said scale.
I know I am about where Varsoon is (atleast I would like to think so (Subtext: PRE-IN TO MY PERSONA 5 LARGE THEME))
Some people don't like that stuff and just like simple stuff.

Oh my god!
We need to translate the hot/crazy scale into Mafia terms!!!

[Radical Rat]

Not sure how relevant this is anymore, but I had typed this up for you D4 when I couldn't just post it here 'cause wincon. @Yume

Spoiler:

This game was nice until you got rid of all the people I enjoyed playing with. :/

In case I forget later, I just want to sincerely apologize to you Yume, for anything I've done to make this game unfun for you.
I signed up because I believed you deserved this, and even if we somehow pull off a win here, it will be a hollow victory if it meant ruining the game experience for you.
Even as scum, I try not to be a dick to people, though I know I'm not perfect. So just. If anything I've said or done this game has upset you, I'm sorry. And I hope you enjoy your future games.

[Yume]

Yeah, I saw that already.

[Yume]

My new avi is here. Paddy, eternally immortalized.

[Varsoon]

I would like to thank Drixx, Cerby, and Varsoon for being joys to play with

HECK YEAH
I ENJOYED PLAYIN WITH YA TOO

Seriously though, if folks are gonna post 5+ pages in post-game, please talk about meeeeeeeeeeee

[Varsoon]

There is a scale.
Varsoon Crazy | - - - - - - - | - - - - - - - | Normalcy/Mountainous
It's important to find out where you fit on said scale.
I know I am about where Varsoon is (atleast I would like to think so (Subtext: PRE-IN TO MY PERSONA 5 LARGE THEME))
Some people don't like that stuff and just like simple stuff.

LET ME PRE-IN PLEASE
Yeah, I don't really make simple games. There's a part of the site for that--those games are called 'Normal' and 'Open' setups.

Balancing stuff when you go Varsoon crazy
is hard.

Sometimes the easiest solution is the best solution.

...don't balance at all?

[Aristophanes]

...don't balance at all?

Balance within reason?

Like here, there were reasons for odd counters to odd roles. Not perfect, but somewhat reasonable.

Or just throw fun stuff in and hope for the best I guess! Lol
I've never played a Varsoon game.

[Varsoon]

I try really hard to think of balance, but when there are a ton of moving parts, things sometimes unfurl.

[Varsoon]

I've ended up having to make tons of baseline rule caveats, especially in regards to vote-editing roles.

[Alisae]

YAAAAAAAAAY!

[Cerberus v666]

I would like to thank Drixx, Cerby, and Varsoon for being joys to play with

HECK YEAH
I ENJOYED PLAYIN WITH YA TOO

Seriously though, if folks are gonna post 5+ pages in post-game, please talk about meeeeeeeeeeee

VARSOON YOU DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING IN THE GAME HOW CAN I TALK ABOUT YOU WHEN YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT BECOME CONFTOWN AND LISTEN TO YUME????

[Varsoon]

BECAUSE I DID GOOD, OKAY?
I BASICALLY DID THE BEST A BOY COULD DO, GIVEN MY ROLE

[Reasonably Rational]

The funny thing is I totally talked about you Varsoon. Silly modfather.

[Aristophanes]

It has come time to release the hordes!!!

N1 Velvet Room
N2 Velvet Room

Scummer's Neighbourhood
Animated Neighbourhood
Zootopia Neighbourhood

Mafia PT

[Yume]

What about TWC/Sapphire neighborhood?

[Aristophanes]

I missed you and Varsoon's looks like. And sappho/Varsoon's.

I think thats it tho

[JaeReed]

What about TWC/Sapphire neighborhood?

Twc/Sapp is the scummers hood.

[mastina]

Like: when I'm town and I absolutely need to be free of you trying to mislynch me ... I haven't got the foggiest idea how to do that.

Do something which makes me not want to mislynch you, basically. You've multiple times even as scum managed to get me to not be voting you--yeah the vote eventually returned when I was disappointed by the results (and with good reason by virtue of you actually being scum), but if you're town, then I have faith in you

not

disappointing me with the results of backing off from you.

Basically, I've given you space before. It's just that with you being scum, the space I gave you didn't do anything that I was impressed by. Yet if you were town, I have full faith, full strength of confidence in you, that the space I'd give you would allow you to impress me. In essence, it's my trust in you to be competent as town, and respecting your abilities to the point where when I am let down, I assume it's because you're scum. (And rightly so. )

[mastina]

Balancing stuff when you go Varsoon crazy
is hard. Sometimes the easiest solution is the best solution.

My solution: don't give a damn about balance, let players know zero fucks were given RE: balance, and just make sure the game doesn't have anything "unfun" in it. (Which is loosely related to balance, but not quite the same thing, since you can have a balanced game which has something hella-unfun about it, and you can have a massively-unbalanced game where everyone has a blast. It's just the two tend to have significant overlap.)

Then again Varsoon was my inspiration as a mod for running Gistou so I'm basically guaranteed to be near his level of crazy, so.

[mastina]

Also, RE: the scale--

There is a scale.
Varsoon Crazy | - - - - - - - | - - - - - - - | Normalcy/Mountainous

I have to disagree that Normalcy is inherently Mountainous. You can still be Varsoon Crazy in a Normal game, it just takes some great deal of creativity. (See also, the Mini Normals I run. Speaking of which I need to figure out which of the six or seven or so mini normals I've designed I next want to run because I want to mod another gaaaaaaaaaaaaame.)

[mastina]

Scummer's Neighbourhood

Btw, proof that I was doing a lot behind the scenes.
Not only do I have a two-page iso but I also have basically double the number of posts as anyone else.

[Alisae]

WOOT MASTINA DEATHTUNNELED ME AGAIN YAAAAAY

[JaeReed]

I did doubt my sr, sorry Ali :c

[Ginngie]

git gud