Mini 1947: Board Game uPick: The Expansion! Game Over

ActionDan · Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:50 am

I think the game was designed well enough from the roles I see, and I appreciate the claim candy.

This would have been more of a "game" if D1 didn't open and close with that gambit. Game swung way too hard to town after. (side note: while as town I don't think I would have ever voted Morph after the results of D1, I don't think that gambit should ever be employed again.)

mhsmith0 · Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:52 am

In post 1867, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1866, Creature wrote:A massclaim D1 would've already solved the game.
Do you mind if I ask why you think that?

I'm pretty curious as well.

Scum had claimable stuff of gladiator, rolecop, reporter

Town had a few "don't lynch" roles
favor JOAT (watcher, cop, tracker, neighborizer, mailmain)
gunsmith

and a bunch of lynchable roles
nightkill predicting vig
delayer
vote freezer
doublevoter
self-watching weakener
partial motion sensor
village idiot (practically made for a policy lynch/vig)
dead neighborizer

Only two roles were blatantly "never lynch this" and most of the other roles were reasonably in line wiht the type of claimable powers that scum had.

Really not seeing how it's broken by day 1 massclaim, sorry. If you want a blatantly breakable by day 1 mass claim example, I could direct you to Kingdom Hearts?

ActionDan · Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:52 am

In post 1876, mhsmith0 wrote:rolecop,

what no lol

fferyllt · Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:53 am

ActionDan wrote:I think the game was designed well enough from the roles I see, and I appreciate the claim candy.

This would have been more of a "game" if D1 didn't open and close with that gambit. Game swung way too hard to town after. (side note: while as town I don't think I would have ever voted Morph after the results of D1,
I don't think that gambit should ever be employed again.
)

I agree, actually. It took years off my life and I'm still mourning the smoking wreckage that is my meta.

Cabd · Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:53 am

In post 1875, ActionDan wrote:I think the game was designed well enough from the roles I see, and I appreciate the claim candy.

This would have been more of a "game" if D1 didn't open and close with that gambit. Game swung way too hard to town after. (side note: while as town I don't think I would have ever voted Morph after the results of D1, I don't think that gambit should ever be employed again.)

I fully admit the gambit is something I'd only have done on about half this player list. Mostly because I don't think the response would have been alignment indicative for a lot fo players here.

penguin_alien · Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:56 am

In post 1877, ActionDan wrote:
In post 1876, mhsmith0 wrote:rolecop,
what no lol

Sidekick and bullet-to-poison transmutator, please. I wouldn't expect scum to claim rolecop with a roleblock add-on.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:57 am

Rolecop is probably claimable in a setup like this. Obviously the roleblocker expansion much less so

But yeah probably the sidekick one is the better claim.

ActionDan · Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:58 am

In post 1877, ActionDan wrote:
In post 1876, mhsmith0 wrote:rolecop,
what no lol

To expand, the clearly claimable thing was the HERE'S BOB!!!! (everyone's least liked Shadow hunter's role) bandaid function.

I agree that this game wasn't breakable by mass claim alone however.

Lucky2u · Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:59 am

scum had built in claimable roles they could have used, it's why no fake claims were deemed necessary

ActionDan · Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:02 am

Oh, no problem releasing the scum QT for me

Lucky2u · Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:04 am

In post 1874, fferyllt wrote:Lucky, just want to say that I'm sad this intricate game design didn't get more fully exercised. You guys (and your reviewers) did a great job on the design!

thanks btw. I was super excited to see some of the roles payoff and I am sad they didn't. The Cthulu role was my biggest disappointment to not see used.

ISO · Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:05 am

In post 1876, mhsmith0 wrote:village idiot (practically made for a policy lynch/vig)

I resent that

penguin_alien · Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:07 am

In post 1886, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1876, mhsmith0 wrote:village idiot (practically made for a policy lynch/vig)
I resent that

Aren't you busy in the special double dead thread being extra bullet-ridden?

fferyllt · Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:17 am

In post 1885, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1874, fferyllt wrote:Lucky, just want to say that I'm sad this intricate game design didn't get more fully exercised. You guys (and your reviewers) did a great job on the design!
thanks btw. I was super excited to see some of the roles payoff and I am sad they didn't. The Cthulu role was my biggest disappointment to not see used.

We loved our role, in much the way we loved the post-restriction-giver in the first boardgame upick. It became clear by day 2 that we probably weren't going to be able to use the role, but we enjoyed it anyway in a "lol we're the likeliest nk but wheee" manner.

It would have been mortifying to get lynched in late game due to never getting our ability to fire, but it was going to be even more mortifying to be lynched for gambiting AFTER we admitted we had gambited on day 2.

Cabd · Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:23 am

Hey dan, you remember that one post in the dance game where it gave me an unshakable townread on you and I stepped out?

Your one post I kept coming back to this game was similar but in the opposite alignment-direction.

Drixx · Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:24 am

Well played. I would have loved to see this game go to LYLO just to see the setup play out completely. Thanks to our awesome mods.

Creature · Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:28 am

Pretty sure my claim wouldn't be buyable if I claimed just gladiator.

Cabd · Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:29 am

In post 1891, Creature wrote:Pretty sure my claim wouldn't be buyable if I claimed just gladiator.

Given my day one fakeclaim, if you'd gladiated us i am almost positive we would have rolled over and died and called you damn near confirmed town. Or was it not usable day one?

ActionDan · Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:33 am

In post 1889, Cabd wrote:Your one post I kept coming back to this game was similar but in the opposite alignment-direction.

That will tend to happen when everyone wants to lynch you and your scum partner is fated to be offed D1

Cabd · Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:35 am

In post 1893, ActionDan wrote:
In post 1889, Cabd wrote:Your one post I kept coming back to this game was similar but in the opposite alignment-direction.
That will tend to happen when everyone wants to lynch you and your scum partner is fated to be offed D1

Yeah :~(

You did your best with what you were given. It's unfortunate that night one no actions went through.

Lucky2u · Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:36 am

In post 1891, Creature wrote:Pretty sure my claim wouldn't be buyable if I claimed just gladiator.

Just gladiator, probably not. However gladiator with a prize fits right in with the flavor. If you're doubting gladiator would be seen as town, the first board game mafia had a gladiator that was town.

Cabd · Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:37 am

Actually, had we been gladiated day one, Raskbells would have endgamed. Pretty sure.

Lucky2u · Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:39 am

I've already said I don't approve of the Gambit (see dead thread), but to each their own. However I would also like to add that I'm shocked so many people believed that penguin and myself and our 3 reviewers allowed a day cop like that.

Chickadee · Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:51 am

I do wish the game had played out a bit more, but I really like the care and thought that was put into making all the roles. I really really enjoyed my role.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:51 am

In post 1897, Lucky2u wrote:I've already said I don't approve of the Gambit (see dead thread), but to each their own. However I would also like to add that I'm shocked so many people believed that penguin and myself and our 3 reviewers allowed a day cop like that.

Well, not without at least one godfather anyway