Mini 1955: Perpetual MYLO III - Game Over!


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Post Post #3175 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:22 am

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Re the conversion to LYLO, I'm looking forward to Wicked's thoughts. His iteration of the setup changed that aspect of the game.
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Post Post #3176 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:44 am

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In post 3174, fferyllt wrote:
In post 3169, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Dunno the game felt way more townsided than scumsided to me.
But I replaced in the middle of day 1 so what do I know.

Doesnt feel like the town needs any extra help to make it LyLo without issue.
In this iteration of the game, I think the various decisions to powerbus on day 1/2 really hurt scum. But, I think scum not bussing at all would also highlight the team to some extent. There's a middle path somewhere in all this.

When Nacho and I hydra'd in the second game, Nacho hoped we'd draw scum because he thought the setup was quite winnable and would be a lot of fun.

I was soooooo relieved we drew town.
I'm not sure it was a decision so much that Brian decided to sheep wicked completely.
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Post Post #3177 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:25 pm

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In post 3176, DiamondSentinel wrote:so much that Brian decided to sheep wicked completely.
This never happened.
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Post Post #3178 (ISO) » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:08 pm

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What do we want? Mafia PT!

When do we want it? Some time in the future!
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Post Post #3179 (ISO) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:17 am

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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Post Post #3180 (ISO) » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:06 am

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In post 3178, Lycanfire wrote:What do we want? Mafia PT!

When do we want it? Some time in the future!
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Post Post #3181 (ISO) » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:14 am

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Congrats town! :wink: You guys were pretty scary to play against. Everyone was voting scum at the end of day 1. :eek:

I don't regret my decision to bus DiamondSentinel in and of itself, but I definitely pushed him too aggressively - probably more-so than I would have as town. It seems like Not_Mafia and Wisdom caught on to that and that wasn't a promising way to start the game. Sorry team.

As far as the setup goes, I still really like this setup and would definitely play again. Personally, I'm fine with the playing the game as is even if town has a mathematical disadvantage. But if balance is an issue for people (maybe that's why this game took so long to fill up), then maybe PM IV could explore a slight alteration in the mechanic. Another idea crossed my mind: Perpetual LyLo... 6 scum, 7 town, town need three out of six lynches to win. This way the setup can still be run as a mini game. And three out of six lynches is easier for town than three out of five lynches (36% as opposed to 24%). Doesn't have the same ring to it as 'best three out of five' but if you add some equity for the game dynamic (as we discussed a little bit in the dead thread), this might be pretty balanced.

Spoiler: math
TTT = 0.0932
TTST = 0.0500
TSTT = 0.0480
STTT = 0.0466
TTSST = 0.0266
TSTST = 0.0256
STTST = 0.0249
TSSTT = 0.0240
STSTT = 0.0233
SSTTT = 0.0224
TTSSST = 0.0133
TSTSST = 0.0128
STTSST = 0.0124
TSSTST = 0.0120
STSTST = 0.0117
SSTTST = 0.0112
TSSSTT = 0.0107
STSSTT = 0.0104
SSTSTT = 0.0099
SSSTTT = 0.0093

Total: 0.3551

As for the LyLo discussion, I'll have to check the rule set that I used. I don't remember exactly off the top of my head.
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Post Post #3182 (ISO) » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:42 am

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Oh okay. I guess the unique thing about PM II is that it incorporated plurality voting. I did allow for no-lynch in that game, but I suppose I didn't want it to happen more than once (Max didn't either). I think multiple no-lynches could cause the game to stall.

I also liked giving scum the option of making it LyLo if town decides to no-lynch.
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Post Post #3183 (ISO) » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:11 am

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In post 3182, Wickedestjr wrote:I also liked giving scum the option of making it LyLo if town decides to no-lynch.
This is a good point.
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Post Post #3184 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:48 am

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Oh and thanks for the game!
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Post Post #3185 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:11 pm

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full disclosure: when i was in the game i thought brian / michael was town and kunk was scum
true evil is taking away the ability to choose

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Post Post #3186 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:35 pm

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Acidphoenix :lol: :lol: :dead:
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Post Post #3187 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 3:29 pm

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