Mini 1962: Magical Girls Mafia II (Day 4)

[Maki Harukawa]

You've done blatant scummy actions and preached to the world your neighborhood is all town you've pointed out actions you think are scummy that you yourself have done
You've used your gimmick to get out of explaining actions I've seen your town game you engaged people and were power town this isn't it so

Spoiler:

let's go shall we?

[HardcoreMonkey]

That is FUCKING AWESOME.

[HardcoreMonkey]

[HardcoreMonkey]

Hmmm interesting

[Kokichi Oma]

You're my top sr too Kokichi. I know why you want me lynched but it's not happening I will happily get you lynched I have explained my reasons to sr you to the best of my abilities if you wanna talk on our srs and duke it out fine by me that'd be fun. I don't really care what Kaito thinks you're both prob scum in that neighborhood let's go.

Sorry, impossible for any of us to be mafia. Nice try, though!

[Elizibereth]

Wazzup

[Elizibereth]

That is FUCKING AWESOME.

Alright, let me start from the beginning,
About some of my stronger reads, in this case Eli.
I have a ton of reasons to explain this in detail,
But let's start by covering what was their "epic fail".

Lady Lambdadelta's point was DEAD on the mark--
The gladiate was stupid but as scum doesn't get them far.
YES, it was dumb, this much can be agreed.
It was stupid, this we all say universally.

However no matter how moronic and idiotic it may be,
No matter your temptation to call the move scummy,
It is simply not something which would come from scum,
Because to put it bluntly mafia wouldn't be that dumb.

The gladiate originated from a perfect storm,
A series of events that created misfortune.
There was a deadline rush, there was chaos, things hectic,
Combined with impulsive players inclined to make a decision that's stupid.

Everyone at the end of the day was easily distracted,
Latching onto smaller details, which is disastrous often.
They forgot the bigger picture we should have had,
But this is not a scumtell, even if it was bad.

None of those factors present suggest scum,
In fact the opposite: town who was just dumb.
Yes I am quite aware you'd be tempted to BoP:
"Elizibereth is too smart to make that mistake, surely!"

No, not always, especially given the gladiate was Mulch;
Him making a mistake like that isn't town or scum, just null.
However, let me explain to you why I feel their actions are pushed to town:
And it has to do with the thoughts which were flying around.

They got an idea, stuck in their head.
The idea caused them to want Shea/Errant dead.
Yes their thought was stupendously wrong,
But as town they'd not know of this all along.

If as scum they knew they were making a "mistake",
Then they'd have no reason to have made this play.
They had zero need to powerlynch a random player;
If they were scum, there was zero need to go for what they went for.

How many lynch candidates were there at the time?
Not one, two, or three; it could have been as high as five.
Assuming Elizibereth as scum that means a maximum of two were scum;
No matter what, the lynch could be directed off of them.

Gladiate Maki, Kokichi, Kaito, Chara;
Even if two scum are in there not all four are, duh.
All of them had some support to go through,
Paired with Elizibereth charisma they couldn't lose.

You might think that doing that would get them in trouble,
But no, after finishing it, people would conclude it was reasonable.
After all, there would be suspicion on those slots pre-gladiate;
Making that choice would be something we could write off as an honest mistake.

The gladiate targets as the above make sense;
Scum want a narrative which is easy to defend.
Instead we got something which looks immensely bad,
And there is sentiment in the town of players who are mad.

People have turned their attention onto Elizibereth,
Something only happening because they derailed who we wanted dead.
As scum they would know this would happen and want it avoided,
But as town they aren't psychic and it was something they could never prevent.

As TOWN by targeting a random player,
They bring suspicion when it backfires.
But because of being town, they can't know they targeted town;
They had no way of knowing how things would go down.

They got it in their heads they had a genius plan,
But that plan only makes sense from imperfect humans.
It can only work as an idea from town without knowledge,
Since as scum they would know the results and need to defend.

Even disregarding this dumb move,
On play I townread them, that I did choose.
Their play this game indicates a collaboration,
Something pulled off in a way I don't think is scum.

This is a work of art

[Elizibereth]

tfw you think it's a scum flip because you forgot your rolecard is red

[Elizibereth]

You're my top sr too Kokichi. I know why you want me lynched but it's not happening I will happily get you lynched I have explained my reasons to sr you to the best of my abilities if you wanna talk on our srs and duke it out fine by me that'd be fun. I don't really care what Kaito thinks you're both prob scum in that neighborhood let's go.

Sorry, impossible for any of us to be mafia. Nice try, though!

Are you masons?

[Elizibereth]

I'm not reading the game so I'm gonna sheep UFO prob

UFO who we lynching

[HardcoreMonkey]

I'm not reading the game so I'm gonna sheep UFO prob

UFO who we lynching

good effort mate

I'll read the thread today and give everyone something to talk about hopefully

-tor

[Kokichi Oma]

You've done blatant scummy actions and preached to the world your neighborhood is all town you've pointed out actions you think are scummy that you yourself have done
You've used your gimmick to get out of explaining actions I've seen your town game you engaged people and were power town this isn't it so

Spoiler:

let's go shall we?

Power town? In all my completed games, I've been mislynched as town. Every. Time. So what do you mean by power town?

[Almost50]

You're my top sr too Kokichi. I know why you want me lynched but it's not happening I will happily get you lynched I have explained my reasons to sr you to the best of my abilities if you wanna talk on our srs and duke it out fine by me that'd be fun. I don't really care what Kaito thinks you're both prob scum in that neighborhood let's go.

Sorry, impossible for any of us to be mafia. Nice try, though!

Are you masons?

Not by mod confirmation, no. However, it does look like our claims in the PT check, and as such we are likely to be all Town.

[The Brain and Pinky]

As a reminder, I have weekend V/LA,
So I cannot put effort in today.
However I can catch up on something and a post make,
Where I have something to say:

Not by mod confirmation, no. However, it does look like our claims in the PT check, and as such we are likely to be all Town.

Almost50 I told Chara to deliver a message,
It was meant to be delivered if I ended up dead.
However, I intend for it to still be said,
So look forward to the communique from this head.

Because you should absolutely know better than this shit;
Roles do not equal alignment.
Especially given the situation which is sketchy-as-fuck;
It being neighborhood-exclusive is indicative of scum.

[HardcoreMonkey]

Hi. I just want to remind everyone that the mod probably prepared a good role counterclaim for scum too. I just compared this game with another finished game and I saw the mod gave a role to fakeclaim to the scum.

Read by play, not by claims.

[HardcoreMonkey]

Oh you know what? The mod was Maria! Lmao!

[Maki Harukawa]

Oh you know what? The mod was Maria! Lmao!

^_~

Roles don't = ali vote on play not roles simple as fuck

[Lady Lambdadelta]

gah, sorry, will get back into this game in a bit

[Kaito Momota]

Same, so ice cream wasn't vigged?

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm guessing so.

[Almost50]

@All: It's not the "role". It's the "target" they picked.
@Mastina: I know. But they disappeared before they relayed the message (they only told me they have one). I also gave them some details regarding as to why I changed my mind about SRing Kaito (i.e. reversed the read from a SR to TL) which I now think wasn't relayed back either.

So, I'm gonna do something stupid. I won't tell you the roles. I will just say Kaito opted to target Ice on N1. They announced it before the fact, and confirmed it after the fact. You simply do NOT announce targeting the player you intend to kill beforehand, and then come back to confirm you did target that player after they flip. That's not smart scum play.

[HardcoreMonkey]

lmao

VOTE: Kaito

[Almost50]

As for Koki, he did claim he was frosted then defrosted (or rather told to ignore the frosting message), which also makes him more likely Town (I was already TRing him, but it strengthens that read). Why would scum claim to have been defrosted (thus confirming they did submit an action)? I would not have known about the defrosting message if I wasn't told about it, because I only got the one about being frosted and not the follow up note.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Prods are sent where those are due.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

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